4 minutes ago, Mr. C. Joel said:

How was that interesting? He’d been number 1 numerous years before. I’d get the excitement if that was the first year but it wasn’t 😂

By that logic 2023 was exciting wham had never been christmas number 1🤣

Debate nicely please everyone!

2 hours ago, gooddelta said:

Or would people be ok with it if it had high download and physical sales too and because Kylie is a national treasure? And because it’s not like it would be depriving a song that hasn’t been there before anyway (unless people get much further behind the Palestine single, which is probably unlikely to get higher at this stage).

I have mixed feelings. Would be happy for Kylie and happy for it not to be Wham! again.

But still feel a little bit unsure about the Amazon exclusive thing in general and wish I liked the song more, which really isn’t great, especially if you compare it to the hits from “Tension”.

I think number 1 we are all excited for Kylie and as fans we know what this’ll mean to her. Not only her, but the outpouring she got when Padam became a hit from fellow female performers and those that work in the entertainment industry shows how much she defies the odds but also has given such a boost for other “older” females that it gives them a chance too. For too long, age and sexism have played a downfall in the careers of female entertainers. Even for actors, male actors can still have luxurious careers into their retirement years, female actors get sidelined the older they get, but in recent years that tide has turned too. As much as it’s amazing that this could be a record breaking week for Kylie - in ways it shouldn’t be. Many more female singers should be scoring hits but the industry and the publics focus on the young has sidelined so many out which just isnt fair. Kylie’s been battling against that and winning which opens doors for everyone else.

Secondly, whichever way you look at it, the Christmas #1 has diminished in value throughout the 21st century for various reasons. The charts in general, I long stopped posting in here because of the way the charts have been. If they become exciting again navigating the streaming world, isn’t that a good thing?

It really does feel like a step down from Tension, and no I'm not anti kylie I just think there are stronger christmas songs she could of pushed from Fully wrapped

3 minutes ago, 777666jason said:

It really does feel like a step down from Tension, and no I'm not anti kylie I just think there are stronger christmas songs she could of pushed from Fully wrapped

Can we have a bit more positivity from you this week then 🤣

Just now, Mr. C. Joel said:

Can we have a bit more positivity from you this week then 🤣

Well since it's the FCP thread can Cher get another week top 40 🙌 ideally repeak (think this is it's best chance as it goes to ACR next year 🤣)

Edited Monday at 11:402 days by 777666jason

51 minutes ago, 777666jason said:

Why are people acting like 2022 wasn't 3 years ago like yes the ladbaby song was shit but the battle was interesting

Personally, it's nice to have an artist in the race that I actually like and want to support. I was happy for Wham! to get it in 2023 though, less so last year as when something becomes inevitable it becomes boring.

Food Aid was so bad though, and hasn't ever been mentioned again after that week it had at the top. The Ed and Elton one was at least somewhat funny for the whole spectacle of them doing that, but Food Aid was downright bad and one single too many. I was definitely team anyone else and groaning the whole week.

1 minute ago, Julian_ said:

I have mixed feelings. Would be happy for Kylie and happy for it not to be Wham! again.

But still feel a little bit unsure about the Amazon exclusive thing in general and wish I liked the song more, which really isn’t great, especially if you compare it to the hits from “Tension”.

Yes I do agree that the song isn't exactly a masterpiece. Padam Padam organically reaching the top ten still feels like more of a moment to me really as it slogged its way up there through the pack and became an unlikely streaming hit not forced upon people by a smart speaker.

If Kylie can manage 15k pure sales (looking back Sam Ryder did 11k two years ago so it feels achievable with her fanbase) then it will at least be better than a completely unpopular song being fully boosted there. Not sure if Tom Grennan's non-Alexa sales were ever released last year to compare. I expect if XMAS wasn't an Amazon exclusive though, this song could have managed top ten at least, so it is at least somewhat worthy of being a hit in its own right.

Na It could of gone top 40 maybe but I don't see it going top 10 if wasn't for being an amazon exclusive, which would still be impressive though

Kylie Xmas extended mix

Extended Link

Check out XMAS (Extended Mix) [Amazon Music Original] by Kylie Minogue on Amazon Music

https://music.amazon.co.uk/albums/B0G6MKRFTF?trackAsin=B0G6MKNFFG&do=play&ts=1765795331&ref=dm_sh_sMsS23bAoZBVL70A4WOj2Bd4l

How much did Tension sell (downloads+physicals) when it debuted at #19? I guess that'd be the most recent proper example of her fanbase activity.

Edited Monday at 11:462 days by Sour Candy

1 minute ago, Sour Candy said:

How much did Tension sell (downloads+physicals) when it debuted at #19? I guess that'd be the most recent proper example of her fanbase activity.

In the week 'Tension' debuted at #19, it sold 16,140. 4,690 of those were physicals, it would have debuted around #24 without those. No idea about downloads unfortunately!

Maybe today's update will give us a breakdown?

Tension the single had 2,326 downloads on debut week. So less than 10k streaming units that week.

So about 8k-ish pure sales for Tension? With concerted multi - downloading campaign surely she could do at least double that this week?

I guess with Tension the fanbase weren't exactly firing on all cylinders like they will be with a Christmas No.1 possibly in sight. The prize wasn't as big when Padam had already been a top 10 weeks earlier.

A 69p download of a mix you don't have is a more enticing prospect to get behind too than e.g. her digital deluxe album last week for £4.99 that added... four songs from her previous edition of the Christmas album. Even I couldn't justify that one.

3 minutes ago, SM6287 said:

So about 8k-ish pure sales for Tension? With concerted multi - downloading campaign surely she could do at least double that this week?

7,016 downloads + physical

Assuming those figures fell off a cliff the following week it’s streaming numbers actually held up pretty well. 9,124 -> 8,420

Edited Monday at 12:052 days by stebags

1 minute ago, gooddelta said:

I guess with Tension the fanbase weren't exactly firing on all cylinders like they will be with a Christmas No.1 possibly in sight. The prize wasn't as big when Padam had already been a top 10 weeks earlier.

A 69p download of a mix you don't have is a more enticing prospect to get behind too than e.g. her digital deluxe album last week for £4.99 that added... four songs from her previous edition of the Christmas album. Even I couldn't justify that one.

The massive issue is that alot of fans buy on iTunes I've seen so many comments where they don't know to use / Download on Amazon and can't find the download etc..

So potentially that will affect things as it's less accessible.

I'm assuming physicals from the weekend will ship today from her store

I got my physical copies on Saturday

BBC News have just published an article about Kylie leading the Xmas #1 race, so that will help too!

Edited Monday at 13:442 days by Mangø

4 minutes ago, Mangø said:

BBC News have just published an article about Kylie leading the Xmas #1 race, so that will help too!

Was going to mention too! I hope Kylie does manage the #1 this week or even next week. Would be amazing to see her get another #1!!