Older songs and albums are lingering on the UK charts for years, which many feel is making the charts stale and boring.

Should there be a recurring-chart rule where singles older than 50 weeks and albums older than 100 weeks are removed from the main charts and placed into a separate recurrent chart?

This would also apply to Christmas music, where only newly released songs would be eligible for the main chart.

What do you think, would this improve the charts or create confusion ?

Edited February 7Feb 7 by Big Mistake
Improving

Absolutely not, and furthermore the ACR / three track rules should be completely abolished.

The official charts shouldn’t be a playlist (leave that to the big top 40) but a historic record of popular consumption of music over the previous 7 days - with every track treated completely equally.

What happens to songs older than 50 weeks which have never charted?

Yeah scrap the 3 track rule album bombs barely last a couple of weeks anyway

26 minutes ago, 777666jason said:

Yeah scrap the 3 track rule album bombs barely last a couple of weeks anyway

Would rather not have the entire top 40 be all Drake thanks

16 minutes ago, gasman449 said:

Would rather not have the entire top 40 be all Drake thanks

Drakes past being that successful more likely to be Taylor if she drops a double triple album with 31 plus songs again 🤣

in this sense i think older songs should have less sale per stream ratio since the same people stream the same song over and over again...

If new songs aren’t able to chart with all the restrictions already against old songs then they don’t deserve to be there. Simple.

Just now, Charis said:

in this sense i think older songs should have less sale per stream ratio since the same people stream the same song over and over again...

This is literally ACR

Songs should be eliminated if they are for half a year in the chart No re-spawns should be allowed. Stuff like "Mr Brightside" and "Iris" are totally inacceptable. Keep it fresh!

18 minutes ago, Maestro said:

This is literally ACR

this is not literally ACR cause 3 month songs have the same ration with 30 year old songs.

Edited February 7Feb 7 by Charis

All songs should be equal its not Mr brightside fault it does enough to be on that for 10 years straight

Mr Brightside is the perfect example of why it needs to be kept as it is. When it first charted in 2004 it was a top 10 hit….just. It takes time to become a classic and it should be recorded as such in the chart!

acr and 3sr are enough as is, this would become TOO much

Chart been dominated by streaming playlist or TikTok or tv show or film

Been says year what ever top playlist stick in chat ages just stick on background don’t bothered searching new music. Current. System. Broken don’t how think here same song week in week out hardly any movement?. general uk public just all Alexa or put playlist on like person old day help song 1 time brought Cd not help song loads times keep same crap in chart.

And then Thursday official chat fudge streaming numbers worst one me should if over estimate it take them extra stream of follwing week if underestimate add miss stream following week is that big thing don’t like how official chart heddle Thursday stream

Album chart that mess song get muddle album off greatest hits or original album that more worst sate then singles

That why stop listening chart show on Friday 2 year last time listen Friday chart show. Sorry thing hard read got dyslexia try best

Edited February 8Feb 8 by Dj Cheeky magpie

No, the UK Charts don't need to be even more fake.

I feel like the denigrating 'effect' of having older entries on the chart feels exaggerated because it's an expression that can only be relayed through chart obsessives who are likely to share the feeling. The kinds of people who dig into every new entry immediately, wear it out and then become baffled that the rest of the country aren't already sick of these songs. The same way radio stations tend to stick with establish hits for seemingly unreasonable times, because in the interest of retaining listeners, they provide familiarity.

I don't think a quick fix ever really suffices though because it never tackles the root cause of the situation, and you just create a chart where the gaps are bigger and the week by week tussles become less thrilling, because there are just less songs that are eligible. I used to run simulations of charts with specifically planned out chart run formulae (so you could have the parabola, the high debut that declines, the slow burner etc). One of my big takeaways from it is that without an influx of active hits, you get a drudging corpse of activity. Redacting the chart might create new hits, but they're ones that can't possibly compete with the biggies because the chart doesn't have that kind of influence. Whenever I look at the lower end of the UK Chart, I always see a bunch of songs that are only charting because of ACR displacement, and can't fall out because there's nothing to replace them, but they're never cracking the top 40 because they're increasingly far away from the mark. It's a bit like when Glee used to infiltrate the charts, or there was an influx of album tracks. They create statistical activity, but they're not part of the main top 40 conversation (usually) and so that just chugs along with its pre-ordained business.

I still think the UK charts should introduce a separate chart for older songs, while keeping the main charts focused on newer releases. Without this, it becomes increasingly difficult for new artists to break through—which is already happening—unlike in the 1990s and 2000s, when fresh acts were entering the charts every week.

A chart revamp like this would give emerging artists a fairer platform for exposure and help ensure the charts better reflect the current musical era.

30 minutes ago, Big Mistake said:

I still think the UK charts should introduce a separate chart for older songs, while keeping the main charts focused on newer releases. Without this, it becomes increasingly difficult for new artists to break through—which is already happening—unlike in the 1990s and 2000s, when fresh acts were entering the charts every week.

A chart revamp like this would give emerging artists a fairer platform for exposure and help ensure the charts better reflect the current musical era.

I didn’t enjoy those type of charts with 6 weeks runs and inflated high NEs simply due to held back demand, it was very fake.

12 hours ago, Charis said:

in this sense i think older songs should have less sale per stream ratio since the same people stream the same song over and over again...

So even more manipulation, diminishing further the representation of popularity

Edited February 8Feb 8 by reissus123