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6 hours ago, GreyAsh said:

I’m sure there is the potential for the record company to request that it is listed as a brand new single, and therefore be on SCR - but therefore, not combining the original with the new version.

Either way, it is not guaranteed to be number 1 - but I imagine it will be in the top 3 (or 4).

Regarding ‘expectations’ the application to credit both artists was received and approved prior to it reaching the top 40, even if it wasn’t given that credit until a week later (according to Alan Jones).

I don’t think that’s possible as it’s still the same song, just a remix of it. as far as I’m aware they’ll always combine, I remember all too well 10 min version & the normal all too well both charted separately in the mids in 2021 and come Friday they were combined, and Phoebe Bridgers lost weekend song was boosted into the top 40 with the “reprise” version on the album also adding streams! I also don’t think they’ll reset it as although it’s being pushed, they didn’t do that for the 40th anniversary of band aid, the new versions streams and sales were combined with the original ones and that’s the version that charted! Credits wise Idk how it’ll work but surely the label and Amazon will push for a cmat credit on it since it’s the Amazon song getting pushed this year

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3 minutes ago, conorw said:

I don’t think that’s possible as it’s still the same song, just a remix of it. as far as I’m aware they’ll always combine,

I don’t know if the new version is a remix or a re-recording. But in cases where different versions are on different record labels, they count separately. Going back to Taylor - just like Taylor’s versions count separately to the originals (I think).

5 minutes ago, GreyAsh said:

I don’t know if the new version is a remix or a re-recording. But in cases where different versions are on different record labels, they count separately. Going back to Taylor - just like Taylor’s versions count separately to the originals (I think).

Ah that’s a good point I didn’t consider it might be a re record, as far as I’m aware it’s described as they’ve taken the stems of the original and added new strings and cmats vocals, not sure if that’s enough to class it as re recording and separate?

8 minutes ago, conorw said:

Ah that’s a good point I didn’t consider it might be a re record, as far as I’m aware it’s described as they’ve taken the stems of the original and added new strings and cmats vocals, not sure if that’s enough to class it as re recording and separate?

tbf I'd imagine Elton's label/Amazon Music would push the OCC pretty hard to combine the two versions given the chart boost it'd give it

Just saw the Christmas chart is announced on Christmas Day this year. The opposite of last year!!

Step into Christmas physicals are out on the 11th so the week before the Christmas chart that's very odd? Unless they plan to change it nearer the time?

New peaks and entries on Spotify today:

#12 Olivia Rodrigo - take me home (4 christmas) [NEW]

#35 Skepta - Currency [NEW]

#60 Skepta feat. Central Cee & Jorja Smith - Broken Hearts [NEW]

#70 Kingfishr - The Sun Will Never Settle

#119 Skepta - Secrets Of Patriarchy [NEW]

#129 Sam Fender - You Can't Always Get What You Want [NEW]

#150 Skepta feat. Novelist - Outside [NEW]

#189 Skepta - Pandora's Box [BEW]

CHRISTMAS

Apple Music End-Of-Day 7/11/26:

#19 (+1) Olivia Rodrigo - take me home

#20 (+15) Wham! - Last Christmas

#58 (+53) Shakin' Stevens - Merry Christmas Everyone

#59 (+53) Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You

#64 (+34) The Pogues x Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale Of New York

#85 (+89) Kelly Clarkson - Underneath The Tree

#126 (NEW) Elton John - Step Into Christmas

#162 (NEW) Leona Lewis - One More Sleep

#173 (NEW) Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me

#192 (NEW) Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas?

Spotify 6/11/26:

#12 (NEW) Olivia Rodrigo - take me home

#15 (=) Wham! - Last Christmas

#29 (+5) Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You

#117 (+2) The Pogues x Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale Of New York

#121 (+17) Kelly Clarkson - Underneath The Tree

#134 (+8) Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me

#199 (RE) Sia - Snowman

girls its TIMEEEEEEE

4 hours ago, conorw said:

I don’t think that’s possible as it’s still the same song, just a remix of it. as far as I’m aware they’ll always combine, I remember all too well 10 min version & the normal all too well both charted separately in the mids in 2021 and come Friday they were combined, and Phoebe Bridgers lost weekend song was boosted into the top 40 with the “reprise” version on the album also adding streams! I also don’t think they’ll reset it as although it’s being pushed, they didn’t do that for the 40th anniversary of band aid, the new versions streams and sales were combined with the original ones and that’s the version that charted! Credits wise Idk how it’ll work but surely the label and Amazon will push for a cmat credit on it since it’s the Amazon song getting pushed this year

I'd say next to no chance of CMAT being added to the credit if they're combined, given the insane history Step Into Christmas already has! It'll just remain credited to Elton I expect.

If Sam Fender goes top 40 with the Stones cover, it would be the first time the John Lewis advert produced a top 40 single since Bastille’s cover of "Can’t Fight This Feeling" in 2019 (#39), and only the third in the past 10 years, the aforementioned two and Elbow's "Golden Slumbers" in 2017.

Granted it is the streaming era now but quiet remarkable how rarely these big and arguably one of the few monocultural moments left can’t produce hit singles anymore, given how regularly they were going not just top 40 or top 10 but number one.

I hope 2023 is the peak in terms of total sales for Wham! and Mariah. I hope Wham! don’t make it into the top 20 of this year’s EOY chart like they did in 2023

6 hours ago, Highway Unicorn said:

If Sam Fender goes top 40 with the Stones cover, it would be the first time the John Lewis advert produced a top 40 single since Bastille’s cover of "Can’t Fight This Feeling" in 2019 (#39), and only the third in the past 10 years, the aforementioned two and Elbow's "Golden Slumbers" in 2017.

Granted it is the streaming era now but quiet remarkable how rarely these big and arguably one of the few monocultural moments left can’t produce hit singles anymore, given how regularly they were going not just top 40 or top 10 but number one.

Guess it’s all about going viral these days on those silly TikTok apps whereas pre 2016 it was just downloads which increased with each viewing on a Saturday night. Celeste was so unlucky with hers, was a great wee winter hymn.

Just now, Steve201 said:

Guess it’s all about going viral these days on those silly TikTok apps whereas pre-2016 it was just downloads which increased with each viewing on a Saturday night. Celeste was so unlucky with hers, was a great wee winter hymn.

they added streaming to the chart in 2014, not 2016!

besides that, virality on TikTok et al. often doesn't translate to chart position anywhere near as much as it did between its peak dominance (2019-2021) and even when it does, it isn't necessarily the main driving factor behind a hit (e.g. Babydoll with its continual strength despite the virality of its TikTok dance dying down)

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5 minutes ago, maggotsforbrains said:

they added streaming to the chart in 2014, not 2016!

besides that, virality on TikTok et al. often doesn't translate to chart position anywhere near as much as it did between its peak dominance (2019-2021) and even when it does, it isn't necessarily the main driving factor behind a hit (e.g. Babydoll with its continual strength despite the virality of its TikTok dance dying down)

Always look at 2015 as when there were no more pent back no1 releases so 2016 Is when it seemed to change the charts in a way. Gecko (Overdrive) in my head was like the last one. Although as you say my dates weren’t entirely accurate more from my own mind.

7 hours ago, Highway Unicorn said:

If Sam Fender goes top 40 with the Stones cover, it would be the first time the John Lewis advert produced a top 40 single since Bastille’s cover of "Can’t Fight This Feeling" in 2019 (#39), and only the third in the past 10 years, the aforementioned two and Elbow's "Golden Slumbers" in 2017.

Granted it is the streaming era now but quiet remarkable how rarely these big and arguably one of the few monocultural moments left can’t produce hit singles anymore, given how regularly they were going not just top 40 or top 10 but number one.

The response to the song feels quite muted (#129 on Spotify despite NMF and All New, All Now support).

Guess the CD and vinyl release could drag it into the Top 40?

looking through, the last #1 hit that got there thanks to a delayed sales release looks like Turn The Music Louder (Rumble), which had previously only been available on streaming - it had charted for the two previous weeks on the Indie Singles chart solely off its Audio Streaming - 2015 was the last year when this was a widespread practice (Are You With Me, House Every Weekend and Easy Love also did this and got to #1 then)

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Spotify 8/11/26 Christmas Update:

#9 (+6) Wham! - Last Christmas

#15 (+14) Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You

#22 (-10) Olivia Rodrigo - take me home

#53 (+68) Kelly Clarkson - Underneath The Tree

#57 (+77) Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me

#67 (+50) The Pogues x Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale of New York

#74 (re) Brenda Lee - Rockin’ Around The Christmas Tree

#77 (re) Bobby Helms - Jingle Bell Rock

#88 (+111) Sia - Snowman

#162 (re) Michael Bublé - It’s Beginning to Look a Lot like Christmas

#173 (re) Andy Williams - It’s the Most Wonderful Time of the Year

BOY WE ARE SO BACK. will update apple at the end of the day later

Amazon Music Christmas

13 Wham!

14 Mariah

26 Pogues

46 Ariana

48 Shakin’ Stevens

49 Sia, Snowman

51 Olivia Rodrigo

57 Brenda Lee

74 Band Aid

76 Bobby Helms

85 Elton John

95 Ed Sheeran and Elton John

Amazon also do a Christmas chart - the above tracks make the top 12 - with the following:

26 Elton John and CMAT

30 Kylie, XMAS

34 Kylie, Santa Baby

46 Cher

Wham! ‘Last Christmas (Pudding Mix)’ was 98 yesterday - but has just fallen out of the Christmas Somgs top 100 - though it is still in the Christmas trending chart at 36.

Although Apple often charts Mariah AIWFCIY multiple times from different sources/albums - there aren’t actually other versions with significant numbers of streams, it is just the same version, therefore Amazon music and Spotify will combine 99% of its streams into one listing - whereas Wham! LC have 3 different versions doing well on Spotify and at least 2 on Amazon Music (as opposed to Amazon Prime - which lists multiple versions of most songs).

Ew at Wham! being top 10 in November. They’re higher than what they were this time in 2023

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