5 minutes ago, GreyAsh said:

Oops. The whole site seems to be down.

5 minutes ago, GreyAsh said:

Oops. The whole site seems to be down.

Not for me, although it did lag for about 30 seconds at one point since the chart went up.

I did find it surprising that You Can't Always Get What You Want was top 40 today, given it was barely there in First Look and had already dropped out by Monday's mids. I speed-prepped it when Lauren teased it as a new entry! I hope we get some clarity on this!

Just now, JosephStyles said:

I did find it surprising that You Can't Always Get What You Want was top 40 today, given it was barely there in First Look and had already dropped out by Monday's mids. I speed-prepped it when Lauren teased it as a new entry! I hope we get some clarity on this!

looks like they disqualified his physicals last-minute given he's all the way down at #17 on sales - #mess

I'm gonna have to revise my chart commentary

2 minutes ago, maggotsforbrains said:

looks like they disqualified his physicals last-minute given he's all the way down at #17 on sales - #mess

Could make sense given it doesn't feature in the physical chart (which I don't think takes much x)

This time last year, Wham! and Mariah were at 50 and 51. I don’t understand why they’re higher this year. It was bad enough when they were at 26 and 28 in 2023

4 minutes ago, JosephStyles said:

Could make sense given it doesn't feature in the physical chart (which I don't think takes much x)

He's gone from about 8k to about 6.5k (unless everything else in the chart has had their numbers recalculated too and Sam is the only mover for some reason) so that would be about 1.5k sales lost somewhere.

11 minutes ago, Hadji said:

This time last year, Wham! and Mariah were at 50 and 51. I don’t understand why they’re higher this year. It was bad enough when they were at 26 and 28 in 2023

Because people have streamed them more.

how odd that Sam Fender's physicals have seemingly been DSQed between the broadcast and now but I'll go with what's on the OCC site for my Top 100s thread for the time being

It's not too dissimilar to the chart on 5th November 1989, several occasions in the 90s (most notably on 4th July 1999) and even on 10th December 2006, when talking about errors in chart compilation.

15 minutes ago, Stephen Emmett said:

It's not too dissimilar to the chart on 5th November 1989, several occasions in the 90s (most notably on 4th July 1999) and even on 10th December 2006, when talking about errors in chart compilation.

There have been error charts before as you say, but did anything gain and then almost immediately lose Top 40 status in the way Sam Fender's track has today.

6 minutes ago, DanChartFan said:

There have been error charts before as you say, but did anything gain and then almost immediately lose Top 40 status in the way Sam Fender's track has today.

Not sure. But I'm sure Melanie Williams solo Top 40 hit "Everyday Thang" got to number 38 on 5 June 1994, but I think when corrected it wasn't there. Help me out!

Just looking at the Sam physicals there’s nothing that stands out that would make them DQ’d - they are both 2 tracks singles with the b-side on both being ‘Winter Song’, they were sold via his website for £14.99 and £4.99 with a % going to Teenage Cancer Trust.

6 minutes ago, ___∆___ said:

Just looking at the Sam physicals there’s nothing that stands out that would make them DQ’d - they are both 2 tracks singles with the b-side on both being ‘Winter Song’, they were sold via his website for £14.99 and £4.99 with a % going to Teenage Cancer Trust.

Are physical sales from a website counted on the day the sale happens, or the day the sale is fulfilled by the retailer? I know pre-orders get counted in the week they are mailed out (meaning that Sailor Twit person can drip feed them over three weeks to artificially improve her chart run) so does the same hold true for straight sales of a single that is already out? I'm wondering if those missing 1.5k of sales are physicals that perhaps were only posted out today and may now be counted next week instead of this week.

42 minutes ago, DanChartFan said:

Are physical sales from a website counted on the day the sale happens, or the day the sale is fulfilled by the retailer? I know pre-orders get counted in the week they are mailed out (meaning that Sailor Twit person can drip feed them over three weeks to artificially improve her chart run) so does the same hold true for straight sales of a single that is already out? I'm wondering if those missing 1.5k of sales are physicals that perhaps were only posted out today and may now be counted next week instead of this week.

When they are fulfilled I believe - I got my dispatch email on Thursday and they arrived today (same for a friend that ordered too).

Mess if they’ve held some back and wrongly reported them, I can’t see it being able to challenge for the Top 40 again.

12 minutes ago, ___∆___ said:

When they are fulfilled I believe - I got my dispatch email on Thursday and they arrived today (same for a friend that ordered too).

Mess if they’ve held some back and wrongly reported them, I can’t see it being able to challenge for the Top 40 again.

Could the retailer have genuinely believed they were going to dispatch them all by the end of Thursday, and told the OCC so, but then the Microsoft outage unexpectedly prevented it and they had to retract some of the sales again but did so too short notice to prevent the BBC and Music Week from getting the wrong version of the chart?