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post Jun 3 2020, 05:48 PM
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A place to discuss Madonna's 5th studio album 'Erotica'. Released in 1992.

1. Erotica
2. Fever
3. Bye Bye Baby
4. Deeper and Deeper
5. Where Life Begins
6. Bad Girl
7. Waiting
8. Thief of Hearts
9. Words
10. Rain
11. Why's it so Hard
12. In This Life
13. Did You Do It?
14. Secret Garden

What are your thoughts on this album? Share any opinions, memories, favourite songs, or just discuss it anytime you're re-listening!
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post Jun 11 2020, 05:45 PM
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I think I've only heard 'Erotica', 'Fever' & 'Rain' from this album (unless I can't remember the other 2 singles but will recognise as I make my way through). Just based on 'Erotica', this album feels like it's her 'In The Zone' moment (sorry to bring the Britney comparison again - but their careers are quite similar in terms of growth as an artist etc..) and by that I mean she stripped away the more pop image, for something a bit more sensual, "sexy" and a bit more daring in terms of artistry and content (if only Britney's team were as daring as Madonna's team with the singles choices at the time and released 'Breathe On Me' and 'Touch Of My Hand' as the 4th and 5th singles drama.gif) but although not a favourite, I really like 'Erotica'. 'Fever' is a good cover version and I like how different it is.

Just from the first 3 tracks alone, this is SO different to her previous 4 albums. She really wanted to strip that bubblegum pop, girl next door image, didn't she? I love the risk (I suspect it was an even bigger risk for it's time too). This might be one of those albums where I prefer it as an actual album to her others, but it lacks the highs of the other albums (similarly to how I feel about 'Joanne' from Gaga - obvz the content is v different lmao) so incredibly cohesive! I feel like it's "of it's time" but in the best way possible. It doesn't feel like it's aged but it doesn't feel like it'd be "fresh" now, if that makes sense. 'Rain' is lovely! A forgotten gem in her catalogue.

I found out 'Justify My Love' wasn't on this album but was on Immaculate Collection just before it... definitely the inspiration for this more sensual route then I guess! ohmy.gif (What a song that is *.*)

01. Erotica
02. Rain
03. Deeper and Deeper
04. Thief of Hearts
05. Fever
06. Bye Bye Baby
07. Waiting
08. Why's it so Hard
09. Secret Garden
10. Words
11. Bad Girl
12. In This Life
13. Where Life Begins
14. Did You Do It?*

I found it hard to actually rank the album coz it flowed nicely and on one listen of albums like that, it's always a bit stressful laugh.gif 'Secret Garden' is a nice way to end this album, imo. It's probably not one I'd go to out of choice, but I'll appreciate it when I listen to the album again. I'm a bit disappointed by 'Bad Girl' though, ngl. I dunno what I expected, but it wasn't as interesting as the albums theme would suggest it would be and I can do without the forgettable 'Where Life Begins' & 'In This Life' (maybe they'll grow with more listens). But overall, I'm impressed. No "huge" standout like her past albums, but a very daring album that flows really nicely! Even now, the theme of it feels quite risque! Some of the songs could do with being cut down a bit (a few of the tracks are a minute or so too long) to make it a BIT more cohesive, but that's fine. But yeah, very impressed. It's probably my favourite "album" so far, but it lacks the highs of the other albums!

*I actually really like DYDI? but it's not really a Madonna track!?

Album Rankings:
01. True Blue
02. Erotica
03. Like A Prayer
04. Madonna
05. Like A Virgin
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Erotica is amongst my least favourites of her albums.

But I appreciate what she did and how it was such a bold and brave thing to release when she did it. I think its imagery and visuals are stunning too just the music is like sonically not what Id choose to listen too.

Id probably rate it as like her 12th best studio album or something. MDNA is definitely worse than this but I feel like I prefer everything else.
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post Jun 11 2020, 06:24 PM
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It's not a huge favourite of mine either, but then whenever I listen to it I appreciate how cohesive it is and how striking it is. For its time too, there really isn't many other more controversial moments in pop than this + the SEX book!

QUOTE(Jonjo @ Jun 11 2020, 06:45 PM) *
Just from the first 3 tracks alone, this is SO different to her previous 4 albums. She really wanted to strip that bubblegum pop, girl next door image, didn't she? I love the risk (I suspect it was an even bigger risk for it's time too). This might be one of those albums where I prefer it as an actual album to her others, but it lacks the highs of the other albums (similarly to how I feel about 'Joanne' from Gaga - obvz the content is v different lmao) so incredibly cohesive! I feel like it's "of it's time" but in the best way possible. It doesn't feel like it's aged but it doesn't feel like it'd be "fresh" now, if that makes sense. 'Rain' is lovely! A forgotten gem in her catalogue.

As you continue through them, you will start to really see why she is the queen of reinventions. Each era has its own distinct qualities and aesthetics and vibe. This is just one of many examples where you question if it's the same artist as the one you listened to previously laugh.gif

Great to see your love for Rain, Deeper and Deeper and Thief of Hearts wub.gif Also yes, Justify My Love could fit perfectly on this album, it's definitely the introduction and transition from Like A Prayer Madonna to Erotica Madonna!
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post Jun 11 2020, 08:20 PM
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Jonjo I need to know if you like Rescue Me from The Immaculate Collection!!! it's one of my absolute favourites but it's not generally that popular, it's another hybrid between the Erotica sound and the Vogue/Like a Prayer era.
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post Jun 18 2020, 07:09 PM
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This album took the longest to click with me out of all Madonna's albums so I'm quite impressed at how much you like it already Jonjo!

I love the unpolished, beat-heavy approach to the album, I feel that really captures the lustful mood and puts you right into the depths of the club. Madonna's straight-talking attitude to sex was obviously really ambitious for the time but it still feels refreshing today, particularly the humour in songs like 'Where Life Begins'. The album is much more complex than given credit for too - it's often pigeonholed as a highly provocative, extreme exploration of sex, but there's many emotional, personal moments: the self-acceptance of sexuality in 'Deeper & Deeper', the healing nature of love in 'Rain', the harsh reality of the AIDS-epidemic in 'In This Life'.
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