Not sure where to stand after that

 

to be fair to Ben, Shabby was being very obnoxious and totally over-reacted, although Ben shouldnt really have said that- still, Shabby is definately coming across as the bitch of this series and she needs to go, although she is entertaining, so Im not sure where I stand :kink:

 

Mario and Caiomhe are both acting like Suck-ups and have gone down in my estimations- shame as Mario is great, but hes hanging out with the wrong people

I think Caoimhe, Mario & Ife would all be so much better if they weren't following Ben/Shabby around tbh. Ife, especially, who came across really well tonight - I loved her talking to Govan about feeling negative or something and didn't shout at Ben too much and was really calm about it.

be fair to John James, he did have a headache and asked her to stop, yes he overreacted, but Josie brought it on herself :wacko:

Josie and JJ are friends though. It's fairly normal for friends to take the p*** out of each other? He needs to grow up and realize the world doesnt revolve around him.

And he went on & on & on about it aswell. Loved some of Josie's comebacks at him though :wub:

 

Edit: P-I-S-S is censored aswell now? Now this is ridicolous...

Lmao, the headache excuse was really pathetic if you ask me. So lame, no reason to act like that at all. I didn't like the way he followed and shouted at her for a reaction either.

I also LOL'd when Ben wanted to go to bed as soon as he saw Shabby and everyone else go into the bathroom! haha. What a wimp!

Haha same!

 

As soon as Ben said about Shabby supposedly grinning at the argument I thought something would happen tbh. I actually destest Ben, everything about him is so slimy and just UGH. Like others have said, I really wish Mario would start to be a bit more of his own character rather than just following Ben around the whole time. He always looks so gormless and confused though! Plus...the gripping of Ben's knee and elbow seemed a bit awkward and creepy. Anyone sense another Craig and Anthony moment happening? Haha.

 

Basically everything Shabby was saying, I was thinking. I think she seems really good at analysing a situation - usually it's SO much easier for the viewers to see what's actually going on, but for me, she hit the nail on the head with what she said to Ben.

Josie OWNED JJ!

 

Rachael might have been a victim but Josie won't take it and JJ can't stand that. Dumb b*****d.

It's funny and I know I'll get shouted down for this but because Shabby's a female, she'll be hated and leave. Victor, Marcus, Rex and other strong types get away with it but females rarely ever do.

I actually think somethings gone wrong for JJ with women? I dunno why, but he just doesn't seem to be able to get on with women very well? Apart from the women who are basically like guys (Josie - used to hanging out with guys, Shabby)... I actually felt sorry for him when he cried because he'd argued with Josie. He really cares for her.

It's funny and I know I'll get shouted down for this but because Shabby's a female, she'll be hated and leave. Victor, Marcus, Rex and other strong types get away with it but females rarely ever do.

I think this is true too. I just hope she wins the task!

Really don't want her to leave, especially over the vile Ben.

Ooh what a packed show tonight! I feel I disagree with quite a few people though.

 

Govan: He definitely loved stirring by telling Shabby, but I warmed to him when he was with Corin. Am I the only one thinking it was totally genuine emotion? He was noticeably down on yesterday's show too. (I noticed because Ife's screen time in the first half of the show was basically her saying one line to him) The second he appeared on my screen, he seemed to be obviously gay. His campness and bitchy behaviour only adds to this. I'm not sure whether he's claiming to be straight or bisexual at the moment, but I think it's been pretty obvious that he is gay, he just can't admit it in public. I expect he's aware that being under such scrutiny means parts of his behaviour will be a giveaway and you can't hide it so well in there. I don't know quite how bad it is, but I expect it could be quite a big deal, even for his family. I mean, I'm not sure I can even think of an openly gay black male in the limelight, it seems much more taboo?

 

Josie & John James: Agreed with most than John James took it way too far, headache or not. I mean, is saying he has bad breath (partly joking?) the same as saying she has a fat arse, awful teeth, hair and face? Totally wrong. Hard to watch, but she dealt with him well.

 

Ben: I genuinely don't see him as being intentionally vile either. In fact, it's exactly the sort of silly thing I'd say as well. He was being attacked and he tried saying something as an example of why he was upset that said person was arguing with him, putting his foot in it in the process. If anything, it reminded me of Ife's mistake last night with Shabby. Trying to do good, but getting it horribly wrong. He does have a tendency to bitch, but I think his is more harmless bitching that isn't meant to stir, it just happens that way. (basically I agree with Mario)

Josie did totally pwn JJ :lol: She is just too amazing for words :wub:

 

Ugh Shabby makes my blood boil seriously. Such an attention seeking bitch. Who cares if Ben stirred up some $h!t. It was good of him too and Shabby bitches and gets into tempers all the bleedin time <_<

How was it good of Ben to stir $h!t up?! :|

How was it good of Ben to stir $h!t up?! :|

 

Well maybe not good of him too. Ben does have a thing for putting his foot in it more the kind of thing i would do but i don't think Ben should feel any remorse over it. He stated how he felt and this is what he gets for it.

Edited June 22, 201015 yr by True Blue Eyes

Well yeah he stated how he feels but in a bitchy way.

I love Ben and to me I don't think he actually means to start arguments.. He was simply telling JJ what he saw

A lot of his comebacks to Shabby were actually not shown on the highlights show.. He said "If I had done the same.. are you telling me you wouldn't go back and tell Caoimhe" & she had nothing to say to that

& I'm pretty sure Josie said she was happy that she made JJ cry, which also was not shown

Ahh not sure if I'm liking this BB tbh.. Too many people in there that I dislike.. Haven't really warmed to them as much this year

 

The sooner Shabby goes the better

There are far more bitchy people in the house than Ben. Jovan started the whole thing with Shabby by "accidently" mentioning it to her, knowing how she would react. I don't think Ben is vile at all, he just seems to be talking to the wrong people - people who arn't is "friends" in the house i.e John James.

 

Shabby is awful and she over acts about everything. Really don't understand how anyone can like her.

I suppose I agree with Aaron regarding Govan to some extent. Looking back, maybe he does deserve some sympathy however the majority of the arguments in the house do somehow seem to include him and fundamentally he was responsible for Ben and Shabby's arguement. Only so much sympathy you can have really.

 

I still very much so support Shabby in this. The whole ''all boys together'' clique of Mario, Dave and Ben is just cringy and vile. Maybe Ben would have some likeability left if he didnt keep refering to Shabby/Ife/Caoimhe as The witches or The Addams Family.

Loved josie not taking any of johns crap last night LOL he hated it couldn't handle her standing up to him and cried! omg my opinion has changed since his treatment of rachel and he proved again last night he is not a very nice person.