After reading about the non-number 1s selling 100k, I wondered about number 4s - specifically Gorillaz 'Clint Eastwood' and Nickelback's 'How You Remind Me'. Both these sold over 400k in year of release (IIRC). Does anyone have sales for the weeks these songs were at #4? I know Gorillaz went 4-5-6-4-5-6, were sales pretty equal over those weeks?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

Alicia - ESOMII

 

That's the biggest #4 of the year.

 

TiK ToK was bigger (I think) but some would say that didn't peak in 2010 (personally I consider the week it was at #4 was the first week of 2010)

 

Stereo Love and Starry Eyed were also pretty huge for #4 hits. SL didn't sell an awful lot but it hund around in the chart for ages.

 

I Like It and All Night Long were relatively big for #4s.

 

Of the other songs to peak at #4 this year, Delirious? - History Makers was a flash in the pan due to a Facebook campaign, Watercolour was a fairly standard #4, Make You Feel My Love I suppose is quite big when factoring in its original run, and For The First Time and Miami 2 Ibiza haven't really been around long enough to justify calling them big or small #4s. For The First Time seems to be falling quite quickly.

Edited November 3, 201014 yr by ~ braysammich ~

Angels is by far the biggest no.4 that has ever been...1 million copies sold.

Angels is by far the biggest no.4 that has ever been...1 million copies sold.

 

That :P

 

Bing Crosby - White Christmas has sold more than Angels with a technical #5 peak though this can't really be counted as it probably would have been #1 on its original release had the chart existed back then.

 

It would also have much much higher sales.

 

The OCC just leave the track out of the million sellers list entirely as it's impossible to estimate how much it's sold in total.

Yeah, Tik Tok and Empire State of Mind have sold bucketloads this year, although they both charted for the first time in 2009 (as did All Night Long).

 

Anybody have a list of the best-selling #4s of all time?

I *think* the highest selling #4 this year that didn't first chart in 2009 is Starry Eyed. Don't quote me on that though.

 

As Typhoon said, Angels is definitely the biggest selling #4 of all time, but I have no idea about any others :P

 

Biggest #4 hits of the year since 2006 based on chart run (I can't do it based on sales :P)

 

2010 Alicia Keys - Empire State Of Mind (Part II) Broken Down

2009 Lady GaGa - Paparazzi

2008 Rihanna - Don't Stop The Music

2007 The Fray - How To Save A Life

2006 Hi_Tack - Say Say Say (Waiting 4 U)

 

Strangely enough, in both 2007 and 2010 the biggest #4 od the year by chart run is also the biggest song overall of the year by chart run.

 

(By chart run referring to a points system whereby #1 is worth 100 points and #100 is worth 1 point, obviously doesn't produce useful results, but certainly interesting ones :P)

Edited November 3, 201014 yr by ~ braysammich ~

Aerosmith I Dont Want To Miss A Thing 800k +

Savage Garden Truly Madly Deeply 700k +

Wizzard's I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday peaked at 4, it must have sold a lot as it re-enters every Christmas

 

just realised how many classic number 4s there was! :o

Edited November 3, 201014 yr by chart wizard

Heartbreaker and 3 Words both did well for #4 singles

After reading about the non-number 1s selling 100k, I wondered about number 4s - specifically Gorillaz 'Clint Eastwood' and Nickelback's 'How You Remind Me'. Both these sold over 400k in year of release (IIRC). Does anyone have sales for the weeks these songs were at #4? I know Gorillaz went 4-5-6-4-5-6, were sales pretty equal over those weeks?

 

Thanks in advance.

Unfortunately sales information was a bit more limited in those days with Alan Jones giving much less comprehensive information back then in his Music Week chart commentaries.

 

However he did mention that "Clint Eastwood" had sold 313,000 copies in total by its 6th chart week, the week it fell to #6. That works out at an average of just over 52k for each of those 6 weeks. In addition I've worked out from information given by AJ for the rest of the top 5 for the second week Clint Eastwood was charting that it sold just over 55,000 copies when it fell to #5.

 

How You Remind Me doesn't seem to have had any outstanding individual weekly sales but rather sold as much because of its sheer long run in the top 10. Unfortunately no weekly sales were ever given in Music Week

 

Angels by Robbie Williams was reported by Alan Jones in Music Week dated 24/01/98 as having sold 470,000 copies. This was weeks prior to the record reaching #4 when its chart run was 7-5-7-6-7-6-9. With 7 weeks on the chart and a (to that point) peak of #5 that is an average weekly sale of over 67,000! The next mention of sales of Angels was the issue dated 28/03/98 which reported the single had sold over 750,000 copies in what was by then its 16th week on the chart. Therefore in 9 weeks since 24/01/98 (5 of which were spent in the top 10) it sold a further 280,000 copies. I would imagine that its peak weekly sale occurred at some point in its first 4 weeks on the chart.

 

Maybe not what's being asked for, but here goes; a list of the best-selling Number 4s by year from 1980 to 2010 (with position in best selling singles chart of the year, and where possible, estimated sales for that year)

 

Biggest selling number 4s by year

 

1980: UB40 "King/Food for Thought" (40th; c. 340,000 sales)

 

1981: Electric Light Orchestra "Hold on Tight" (30th)

 

1982: Haircut 100 "Love Plus One" (14th)

 

1983: Mike Oldfield "Moonlight Shadow" (29th)

 

1984: Prince "When Doves Cry" (28th)

 

1985: Kool and the Gang "Cherish" (23rd)

 

1986: Peter Gabriel "Sledgehammer" (28th)

 

1987: Sinitta "Toy Boy" (27th; c. 335,000 sales)

 

1988: Bill Withers "Lovely Day (Sunshine Mix)" (38th)

 

1989: London Boys "Requiem" (27th)

 

1990: Blue Pearl "Naked in the Rain" (31st)

 

1991: Zoe "Sunshine on a Rainy Day" (18th)

 

1992: Pasadenas "I'm Doing Fine" (28th)

 

1993: Bee Gees "For Whom The Bell Tolls" (33rd)

 

1994: China Black "Searching" (25th; c. 347,400 sales)

 

1995: Ini Kamoze "Here Comes The Hotstepper" (24th; c. 407,000 sales)

 

1996: Tony Rich Project "Nobody Knows" (29th; c. 410,000 sales)

 

1997: Ultra Naté "Free" (20th; c. 480,000 sales)

* Robbie Williams "Angels" (peaked at Number 5) (38th; c. 340,000 sales)

** Janet Jackson "Together Again" (34th; c. 360,000 sales)

 

1998: Savage Garden "Truly Madly Deeply" (10th; c. 646,000 sales)

* Aerosmith "I Don't Want To Miss A Thing" (18th; c. 559,000 sales)

** Robbie Williams "Angels" (26th, c. 467,000 sales)

*** Mavericks "Dance the Night Away" (27th; c. 432,000 sales)

**** Janet Jackson "Together Again" (33rd; c. 381,000 sales)

 

1999: Various Artists "Thank Abba For The Music" (52nd(!); c. 334,600 sales)

 

2000: The Bloodhound Gang "The Bad Touch" (20th; c. 377,000 sales)

 

2001: Gorillaz "Clint Eastwood" (12th; c. 450,000 sales)

 

2002: Nickelback "How You Remind Me" (12th; c. 430,000 sales)

 

2003: Big Brovaz "Baby Boy" (40th; c. 150,000 sales)

 

2004: ???

 

2005: Will Smith "Switch" (15th; c. 199,275 sales)

 

2006: The Automatic "Monster" (21st; c. 182,500 sales)

 

2007: The Fray "How to Save a Life" (11th; c. 300,392 sales)

 

2008: Katy Perry "Hot 'n' Cold" (23rd; c. 298,780 sales)

 

2009: Lady Gaga "Paparazzi" (21st; 447,000 sales)

 

2010: Alicia Keys "Empire State of Mind Part II) (9th to date; c. 549,600 sales)

 

Data gleaned from Wikipedia* and Buzzjack

 

* - Any margins of error etc. are not my fault ;)

 

From the looks of it, sales of the big selling Number 4s have picked up from a mid 2000s slump to late 1990s levels, when what must be the highest selling singles to peak at Number 4 in the UK chart charted over a 12 month period: "Angels", "Together Again", "Truly Madly Deeply" and "I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing".

Another list; from the BPI website, a list of gold/platinum selling Number 4 hits in the UK:

 

Platinum:

Robbie Williams "Angels"

Savage Garden "Truly Madly Deeply"

Janet Jackson "Together Again"

 

Gold:

Sylvia "Y Viva España"

Bonnie Tyler "It's a Heartache"

Earth Wind and Fire with the Emotions "Boogie Wonderland"

The Tourists "I Only Wanna Be With You"

Madness "Embarrassment" (certainly hasn't sold over c. 340,000)

Madness "It Must Be Love"

Haircut 100 "Love Plus One"

Thompson Twins "Hold Me Now"

The Cars "Drive"

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Kaoma "Lambada"

Jimmy Nail "Crocodile Shoes"

Ini Kamoze "Here Comes The Hotstepper"

DJ Quicksilver "Belissima"

Ultra Naté "Free"

Mavericks "Dance the Night Away"

Aerosmith "I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing" (most likely eligible for platinum)

Vengaboys "Up and Down"

Alice Deejay "Back in My Life"

Bloodhound Gang "The Bad Touch"

Gorillaz "Clint Eastwood"

Nickelback "How You Remind Me"

Katy Perry "Hot and Cold"

Beyoncé "Halo"

Lady Gaga "Paparazzi"

 

And add to the above:

Ke$ha "Tik Tok" (576k+)

Alicia Keys "Empire State of Mind Part II" (549k+)

Tony Rich Project "Nobody Knows" (410k+)

Woah. 1998 looked crazy! :o Empire State of Mind would've fitted in well in that year. :lol:

 

Also, just realized, unless I've missed something out, it would be the highest charting #4 in the year-end chart of all time, as it stands, although it's bound to fall out of the top 10 sometime in the next 9(?) weeks.

Edited November 3, 201014 yr by Eric_Blob

Halo by Beyonce was pretty big here for a #4. Forever (Chris Brown) and Love In This Club (Usher) were decent sized hits as well, of course i'm only thinking of recent releases that haven't been mentioned! :P

 

Hasn't Eminem got a record for the most amount of #4's? Or is it Kylie?

Angels is by far the biggest no.4 that has ever been...1 million copies sold.

 

 

I didnt think it had sold that much, thought it was around 850k?

Wow, #4 is a good place to chart it seems :P

Wow, #4 is a good place to chart it seems :P

 

Seemingly! Although there will be loads and loads of singles that have peaked at every number in the top 10 and sold bucketloads.

Seemingly! Although there will be loads and loads of singles that have peaked at every number in the top 10 and sold bucketloads.

 

I guess but not so much #10-#6, #5-#2 you always get a lot of huge hits, so its not all about that #1 position!

I guess but not so much #10-#6, #5-#2 you always get a lot of huge hits, so its not all about that #1 position!

 

Saturdays Ego sold loads for a #9 single

I didnt think it had sold that much, thought it was around 850k?

http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?s...6092&st=120 Page 7. Confirmed as a million seller by the OCC.