No, I mean it clearly "isn't working" for the songs that didn't do well from it.

 

But even the year-end #1s recently:

 

2011: Someone Like You - Not held back. Released within days its radio premiere.

2010: Love the Way You Lie - Not held back. Released within days of its radio premiere.

2009: Poker Face - Not held back. Released within days of its radio premiere.

 

 

These are success stories, and there's many others. It can definitely work.

these are not really good examples imo, because the albums were already out, and the songs were "not released" they were cherrypicked as album tracks before the single releases were added to the download sites.

While I see where you are coming from, come on Eric, that's an unfair example. :P

 

Yeah, I did think that actually. :lol:

 

Although it's a good example of great promotion. It had like a 3 month-long advertising campaign to 10 million people, and was fairly decent as a song imo, so it's understandable it sold how it did.

 

But yeah, for 2008 we'll say 4 Minutes by Madonna then (although it wasn't year-end #1, but it was a massive hit that year that didn't have lots of pre-release airplay). :lol:

 

these are not really good examples imo, because the albums were already out, and the songs were "not released" they were cherrypicked as album tracks before the single releases were added to the download sites.

 

It's pretty much the same principle really. They didn't have pre-release promo, and had to climb up the charts slowly. They were released before their radio premieres (and in all 3 cases I mentioned, their radio premieres were actually withing days of them being available for download.

 

Infact, Someone Like You, Love the Way You Lie and Poker Face were at a massive disadvantage because they were all from massive-selling albums. Who knows how much they could've sold if they were released before their albums!!!!

 

But if this is better for you:

 

2011: Party Rock Anthem

2010: OMG

2009: Bad Romance

 

On air, on sale can definitely work imo.

Edited June 20, 201114 yr by Eric_Blob

But yeah, for 2008 we'll say 4 Minutes by Madonna then (although it wasn't year-end #1, but it was a massive hit that year that didn't have lots of pre-release airplay). :lol:

That's a better example. I can think of also Coldplay - Viva La Vida. I think this was released before it hit the radio and became really big in the end. But I'm not sure, so you can prove me wrong :lol:

C'mon SoundGirl overtake Parade!

That's a better example. I can think of also Coldplay - Viva La Vida. I think this was released before it hit the radio and became really big in the end. But I'm not sure, so you can prove me wrong :lol:

 

I can't remember with Viva La Vida actually (I'm wasn't a fan of Coldplay like I was of Timbaland, so I didn't follow their song releases as much), but I remember someone else here saying a few days ago that it got to #1 on fanbase buys, so I assume from that it was also basically an on air, on sale release. And yeah, that was a big hit (a bit of an understatement tbh :lol:)!

Bad Romance wasn't release in the UK until around 2-3 weeks after its premiere at US wasn't it...?

49 Chris Brown ft Justin Bieber/ Next 2 You

100 Snoop Dogg ft T-Pain/ Boom

I'm surprised record companies don't seem to be making the most of OA/OS right now. It's clearly the best strategy for bigger sales but they can't just throw any old song onto iTunes and expect it to keep momentum for weeks (even a month in some cases) without even the tiniest bit of promotion. You'd expect the bigger labels to have radio sorted, a video on the cusp of release and other avenues of promotion ready.

Wasn't Viva La Vida legally available but ineligible to chart for a few weeks due to some rule about it being a pre-order from an as then unreleased album and therefore part payment of said album?

 

As soon as the song was chart eligible it was still selling enough to get them a week at #1 but if not for that rule then it would have been top ten for quite a few weeks beforehand.

 

Or am I remembering this completely wrong? :unsure: There've been so many ridiculous chart rules over the years that I can barely keep track of them in my mind!

I'm surprised record companies don't seem to be making the most of OA/OS right now. It's clearly the best strategy for bigger sales but they can't just throw any old song onto iTunes and expect it to keep momentum for weeks (even a month in some cases) without even the tiniest bit of promotion. You'd expect the bigger labels to have radio sorted, a video on the cusp of release and other avenues of promotion ready.

 

That's true. And even so, there have been numerous examples on on air, on sale songs being hits despite having their music video released months after being up for download.

 

Wasn't Viva La Vida legally available but ineligible to chart for a few weeks due to some rule about it being a pre-order from an as then unreleased album and therefore part payment of said album?

 

As soon as the song was chart eligible it was still selling enough to get them a week at #1 but if not for that rule then it would have been top ten for quite a few weeks beforehand.

 

Or am I remembering this completely wrong? :unsure: There've been so many ridiculous chart rules over the years that I can barely keep track of them in my mind!

 

Maybe. I remember some people talking about that when Pendulum and JLS were ineligible to chart.

Edited June 20, 201114 yr by Eric_Blob

can some one plz tell me the chart position for encore - tit for tat or be able to give me a link where i can check on this single plz

can some one plz tell me the chart position for encore - tit for tat or be able to give me a link where i can check on this single plz

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Welcome to Buzzjack!

Edited June 20, 201114 yr by ukcsf11

There's a glee special on BBC Radio 1 at 9pm! :D So hopefully a couple of their songs climb tonight :wub:

Wow. I just found this! :o Especially the first few seconds of both songs:

 

 

I bet I'm actually the last person to notice this. :lol:

Wow. I just found this! :o Especially the first few seconds of both songs:

 

 

I bet I'm actually the last person to notice this. :lol:

It's hope Jason DeRulo got permission to use the sample of 'Banana Boat'

It's hope Jason DeRulo got permission to use the sample of 'Banana Boat'

 

I hope he got permission to use the beats from Tik Tok and the melody of Dynamite as well :lol:

It's hope Jason DeRulo got permission to use the sample of 'Banana Boat'

 

He probably did, I'd suspect. He's been good with his other samples (infact, Ridin' Solo was supposed to sample Bittersweet Symphony, but they weren't allowed, so they had to take the sample out :( The song was still massive without it though, as we all know :lol:).

 

But I mean, it's a very well-known song, and it doesn't even look like they've tried to hide it or anything, so I think it must've been all cleared.

Notorious to #20. :)

I'm surprised record companies don't seem to be making the most of OA/OS right now. It's clearly the best strategy for bigger sales but they can't just throw any old song onto iTunes and expect it to keep momentum for weeks (even a month in some cases) without even the tiniest bit of promotion. You'd expect the bigger labels to have radio sorted, a video on the cusp of release and other avenues of promotion ready.

 

Exactly. "Bad Romance" is a classic example.

 

World premier - released to iTunes - debuts at #14.

>Two weeks later, release official video - climbs to #5.

>Four weeks later, Massive promo push/ CD single/7" vinyl released - performance on the X-Factor - #1.

 

It's not that difficult, yet some record companies do give the impression that they haven't got a clue what they are doing. E.g. "In The Air" by Chipmunk was a good example of how not to do it, chucked onto iTunes only a few weeks after the last single which was still being promoted at that time, then no follow-up promo. Obviously you have to have a good song in the first place though which is what Chipmunk failed to have! :P

I hope he got permission to use the beats from Tik Tok and the melody of Dynamite as well :lol:

 

I also find "I'm tired of using technology" just rolls off my tongue everytime he says "Dayo". :lol:

 

Exactly. "Bad Romance" is a classic example.

 

World premier - released to iTunes - debuts at #14.

>Two weeks later, release official video - climbs to #5.

>Four weeks later, Massive promo push/ CD single/7" vinyl released - performance on the X-Factor - #1.

 

It's not that difficult, yet some record companies do give the impression that they haven't got a clue what they are doing. E.g. "In The Air" by Chipmunk was a good example of how not to do it, chucked onto iTunes only a few weeks after the last single which was still being promoted at that time, then no follow-up promo. Obviously you have to have a good song in the first place though which is what Chipmunk failed to have! :P

 

I liked In the Air actually. I thought it was much better than Champion, which I find quite boring. :( But I agree with you. It wasn't promoted well, the public had more mixed opinions about it. If they held it back, I think it probably would've gone top 10, but fallen out of the chart quickly (although we can't know for sure what would happen obviously).

Edited June 20, 201114 yr by Eric_Blob