That's their whole cookie cutter argument though, why playlist something if they're just doing what a load of other acts are doing, acts that they also playlist? Drop them and give that support to other acts who need it, Alexandra doesn't (or so far hasn't) because she gets enough support from others. I know you could use this excuse for loads of songs (why playlist Adele or Rihanna when everyone else will?) but I think Radio 1 do a good job of getting the balance right really. Alex doesn't need their support, neither does she sound different to a lof of stuff they do play. Perfect solution is to instead playlist an act that A) will rely on Radio 1 support and B) sounds a bit different to the rest of their playlist

In what way does it 'embarrass' them when they don't playlist a song that becomes a hit? I can sort of get where some of these anti-R1-snubbing-MLJ arguments are coming from but this one I don't understand in the slightest. I'm pretty sure they don't care.

 

I don't really mean embarrass, it's just cause I get so annoyed when they don't play songs that are good cause they don't think "they'll be hits" when half the songs the playlist are flops noone ever buys (heavy metal stuff) and when they snub a good new song because it's either not rap, dance, dubstep or heavy metal and it becomes a hit it prooves they get it wrong a lot and SHOULD LISTEN TO WHAT WE WANT TO BE PLAYLISTED!!!

I don't really mean embarrass, it's just cause I get so annoyed when they don't play songs that are good cause they don't think "they'll be hits" when half the songs the playlist are flops noone ever buys (heavy metal stuff) and when they snub a good new song because it's either not rap, dance, dubstep or heavy metal and it becomes a hit it prooves they get it wrong a lot and SHOULD LISTEN TO WHAT WE WANT TO BE PLAYLISTED!!!

 

Listen to a different radio station if you don't like what Radio 1 playlists then, because this is how they've done their playlist ever since the beginning and they're not going to change. If you don't like it don't listen. Simple. If they didn't do what they do we'd almost never have new artists breaking through to the mainstream, because Radio 1 are often the only radio station that support acts that go on to be massive (one example being Tinie Tempah). And if they don't go on to be massive, ah well, at least R1 gave them a chance.

Listen to a different radio station if you don't like what Radio 1 playlists then, because this is how they've done their playlist ever since the beginning and they're not going to change. If you don't like it don't listen. Simple. If they didn't do what they do we'd almost never have new artists breaking through to the mainstream, because Radio 1 are often the only radio station that support acts that go on to be massive (one example being Tinie Tempah). And if they don't go on to be massive, ah well, at least R1 gave them a chance.

 

Not sure why you get so defensive about R1 you do not work there. That is a childish response if you dont like it dont listen, those who pay there license fee should get more consideration, not just DJS favorites.

They do get embarrassed when songs they do not playlist get to No 1 or do well, that is why they then have to slag off the song not just on air but on twitter.

Chris Moyles is unprofessional period, I really hope MLJ is No 1 tomorrow. Last year was embarrassing for them The Wanted, Usher, Olly and Alexandra all got to No 1 without being playlisted by them

I don't really mean embarrass, it's just cause I get so annoyed when they don't play songs that are good cause they don't think "they'll be hits" when half the songs the playlist are flops noone ever buys (heavy metal stuff) and when they snub a good new song because it's either not rap, dance, dubstep or heavy metal and it becomes a hit it prooves they get it wrong a lot and SHOULD LISTEN TO WHAT WE WANT TO BE PLAYLISTED!!!

Radio 1 have to be different from other stations to justify their existence and, more specifically, being funded by the licence fee. If they just played the same songs as commercial stations, the Tories would force the BBC to flog it off before you could say Alexandra Burke.

Not sure why you get so defensive about R1 you do not work there. That is a childish response if you dont like it dont listen, those who pay there license fee should get more consideration, not just DJS favorites.

They do get embarrassed when songs they do not playlist get to No 1 or do well, that is why they then have to slag off the song not just on air but on twitter.

Chris Moyles is unprofessional period, I really hope MLJ is No 1 tomorrow. Last year was embarrassing for them The Wanted, Usher, Olly and Alexandra all got to No 1 without being playlisted by them

 

I'm equally unsure why people throw so much hate at Radio 1 when they don't work for any of their competition. If Radio 1's audience didn't like what they were playing, they wouldn't listen to it. And that's clearly not a problem so they must be doing something right.

 

And Chris Moyles, once again, does not represent Radio 1. He is one DJ who works there. His opinions on songs and the way he expresses them are not representative of the whole station.

 

And well done for not being factually correct with your accusations against Radio 1, yet again. They DID playlist Usher.

 

And it's not 'embarrassing' for them at all because, for the hundredth time, THEY DON'T CARE. Their playlist is not based on the chart and it's not about getting the music they playlist into the chart.

Usher was already No 1 on itunes with OMG and was playlisted by R1 the same week it happened not a month in advance.

Usher was already No 1 on itunes with OMG and was playlisted by R1 the same week it happened not a month in advance.

 

But then when they did playlist it, they played it a lot. You make it sound as if they didn't support it at all, when really they just didn't support it straight away (which is what every other station does and no one EVER complains about that, it's only when Radio 1 does it that it's suddenly a crime). I suppose you'll proclaim it as a failure of Radio 1 that they didn't playlist 'We Found Love' or 'Born This Way' before they got to #1 on iTunes as well :rolleyes:

 

EDIT: In fact, I looked it up and they added Usher to the playlist on the 24th of March, which was a few days after it was released and a couple of week before it got to #1 on iTunes. I didn't bother looking this up because I'd assumed you would at least have got this right. The only #1 they playlisted after it got to #1 was 'Please Don't Let Me Go'.

Edited October 8, 201113 yr by Bré

Wow. Everybody calm down! :lol:

 

Also, if Radio 1 did disappear or stop supporting new artists, we wouldn't be left with Capital who supports no new artists. Other smaller radio stations which support new artists would get more popular in place of Radio 1, or one of the bigger stations would sieze the opportunity to take that niche themselves. Unless, of course, it turned out there was actually no demand with the general public to hear new artists, but I doubt that's the case.

I think the core of the problem is and always has been that people project their personal taste and preferences for music onto Radio 1. I think online it's held as the ONE tool for a song to be a success. No Radio 1 support equates to a song flopping. Most chart fans hold the intrinsic belief that a song that they personally champion should be a number 1 therefore you end up in this QUAGMIRE where people will cuss Radio 1 and find holes wherever they can (for example attacking Chris Moyles continually even if he only represents a tiny aspect of the stations brand/identity/direction).

 

People need to consider Radio 1's remit. It doesn't exist as a station to play every song in the top 40. That may be the subculture that exists on this website but I personally know no-one that's into chart music and runs etc but they still listen. Why is that? Because they want to come across new bands, they like the personalities of the DJs or even the interactive elements. Quite a few are big Zane Lowe fans yet I don't see him ever attacked or even mentioned on this site for the most part.

 

I think that the BBC does a decent job covering all elements of music for different subcultures and age brackets and as has been said if you don't like the playlist or direction of the station then switch to one that suits you more?

I think the main problem is that people can't understand why Radio 1 wouldn't playlist MLJ. It fits their target audience of 15-29 perfectly. It goes down a storm in clubs at the weekend. It just seems odd they won't playlist it. I'm not saying they have to, it just seems a little weird and leads to the idea that they saw the artists involved and dismissed it without even giving it a listen.

I think the main problem is that people can't understand why Radio 1 wouldn't playlist MLJ. It fits their target audience of 15-29 perfectly. It goes down a storm in clubs at the weekend. It just seems odd they won't playlist it. I'm not saying they have to, it just seems a little weird and leads to the idea that they saw the artists involved and dismissed it without even giving it a listen.

 

If that is what people are saying then they're not putting it across very well. To me it looks like their entire argument boils down to 'Moves Like Jagger has sold a lot, so it should be on the playlist'.

If that is what people are saying then they're not putting it across very well. To me it looks like their entire argument boils down to 'Moves Like Jagger has sold a lot, so it should be on the playlist'.

 

Yes I think people aren't quite explaining what they mean enough. But that's the way I see it. People have brought acts like Alexandra and Enrique into it but the thread title refers to Moves Like Jagger which is definitely being bought mainly by people who fit into the target audience age range. I can't imagine anyone younger than 12 or older than 35 buying it and I can imagine many listeners wonder why it doesn't get played particularly when other tracks the DJs dislike (loca People for example) do get played.

I have never, and will never understand the huge focus on the Radio 1 playlist I've seen. It's crazy. It's one thing witnessing Nicola Roberts stans go into meltdown and declare jihad on the BBC because they didn't A-list Beat of My Drum but to see a thread started because they aren't playing a song that's #1 on radio anyway is just crazy. What good does playlisting a song doing incredibly well anyway make? Who would you rather be booted off? Lana Del Rey? Marina & The Diamonds? There is only so much room on the playlist and there are so many acts who need it SO much more than Maroontina or whoever else at this moment in time. In fact, if I had my way I'd have Radio 1 turn further away from the commercial artists. Does the 5th single from a Katy Perry album really deserve to be on the A-list for a month when less established acts are flopping with their first singles? But I accept that I have no right to try and dictate what Radio 1 playlist - I can't even listen to it. Radio 1 aren't perfect, but they're as good as it gets with popular radio in the UK. And so I'll take what I get, rather than complaining when something doesn't go my way.

I get your point, but if they're going to shun Moves Like Jagger because 'it doesn't need to be on the playlist to do well' then why playlist Cher Lloyd, One Direction, Dappy, Bruno Mars, Lady Gaga, Rihanna, etc? They clearly don't need the support, if anything Maroon 5 and Christina Aguilera initially needed the support a lot more than those acts, although they hardly need it now.

 

I'm just playing Devil's advocate here just in case someone bites my head off.

Edited October 8, 201113 yr by T Boy

Yes I think people aren't quite explaining what they mean enough. But that's the way I see it. People have brought acts like Alexandra and Enrique into it but the thread title refers to Moves Like Jagger which is definitely being bought mainly by people who fit into the target audience age range. I can't imagine anyone younger than 12 or older than 35 buying it and I can imagine many listeners wonder why it doesn't get played particularly when other tracks the DJs dislike (loca People for example) do get played.

 

LOL, I'm 44 and I bought it!

LOL, I'm 44 and I bought it!

 

Obviously I wasn't being exact, but you have to admit it fits right into the audience Radio 1 are going for.

I get your point, but if they're going to shun Moves Like Jagger because 'it doesn't need to be on the playlist to do well' then why playlist Cher Lloyd, One Direction, Dappy, Bruno Mars, Lady Gaga, Rihanna, etc? They clearly don't need the support, if anything Maroon 5 and Christina Aguilera initially needed the support a lot more than those acts, although they hardly need it now.

 

I'm just playing Devil's advocate here just in case someone bites my head off.

 

While it can seem illogical from an outsider's perspective, I think the reason they playlist acts along the lines of the people you listed is because they do have to play a certain amount of chart music to insure they actually have listeners to hear the more indie stuff. With Moves Like Jagger I suspect it was a case of them thinking it would bomb beforehand and so not playing it and then when it did hit they knew they'd get enough support anyway. I think it comes down to the personal opinions of the playlist people. Maybe they didn't think much of MLJ and think GaGa (for example) is more "worthy" of their support.

 

Yes its #1 on the radio chart but I have to agree it's gone too far and R1 should've playlisted MLJ by now. Such a great tune and wouldn't be out of place on there :wub: Maybe with their support it would've been a #1 in the sales. And it shouldn't come down to the DJs opinions, because they gotta think about the audience :( On the whole I love R1 but I can't believe their hatred for this. They have something against Maroon 5 yet they playlist Adam from M5 when he's on a Gym Class Heroes track.

 

If they blacklist will.i.am's upcoming single because Jennifer Lopez is 40+ and Mick Jagger is 60+ I will be very disappointed :angry: Even when will.i.am did a collab with Nicki Minaj (Check It Out) they blacklisted it, and it only got to #11 because of that :angry:

Edited October 8, 201113 yr by danielXF

you do realize that it's called bbc radio 1, not buzzjack fm. if they want to playlist crap and ignore the good stuff, then just let them and go and listen to a different radio station. :rolleyes: