Definitely one of my favourite albums ever, and I agree that 'New Romantics' in particular is one of the best deluxe bonus tracks ever surely? And yes you should make sure you nominate 'New Romantics' (and 'Wonderland' too I suppose) in the Pop Forum Awards for best song relegated to a deluxe bonus track ^_^

 

I said earlier in the thread that I thought that this era could be as big as 'Teenage Dream' and while many disagreed and I was being pretty optimistic myself although I did have faith it could do it, it does look like this could be even bigger than the 'Teenage Dream' era! :o And I really believe 'Style', if that does become the next single as rumoured, could be her first UK #1 depending if there's a quiet week or two with no big releases in Q1 next year!

I said earlier in the thread that I thought that this era could be as big as 'Teenage Dream' and while many disagreed and I was being pretty optimistic myself although I did have faith it could do it, it does look like this could be even bigger than the 'Teenage Dream' era! :o And I really believe 'Style', if that does become the next single as rumoured, could be her first UK #1 depending if there's a quiet week or two with no big releases in Q1 next year!

i actually agree with you, this era can easily run and run can't it?

 

'style' seems to be a firm favourite away from here so wouldn't surprise me to see it do well, surely followed by 'out of the woods' and then 'wildest dreams' or 'all you had to do was stay' or even a bonus track. so many options!

I think as long as she's refusing to put her music on streaming services, she's not going to get a UK #1 single to her name (unless she unleashes a monster lead single for the next era). 'Style' would be fully deserving of being her first #1 though, it's just a pure pop gem that keeps improving on further listens.

 

I think this should definitely push for top 5, but she's arguably the biggest name in the world right now so none of this matters in the grand scheme of things.

i actually agree with you, this era can easily run and run can't it?

 

'style' seems to be a firm favourite away from here so wouldn't surprise me to see it do well, surely followed by 'out of the woods' and then 'wildest dreams' or 'all you had to do was stay' or even a bonus track. so many options!

 

Indeed, like you suggest there are plenty of options and I'd definitely add 'Bad Blood' or 'How You Get The Girl' to that list of possibilities - although the three you mention would definitely be the best 3 single choices I think - and a bonus track single is definitely a possibility seeing as she did it with 'Ours' - it'd work especially well as I don't think deluxe tracks are on iTunes yet due to being an exclusive somewhere but they do get put on iTunes eventually as I remember the 'Red' bonus tracks popping up in the US iTunes top 10 randomly, ages after initial release!

 

It's incredible that the album sounds so cohesive yet has so many different sounding tracks, while all still being massive potential hits!

Is it just be who thinks every song would make a good single? :o Welcome to New York has grown on me monstrously too (which was the only track I didn't like)

Is it just be who thinks every song would make a good single? :o Welcome to New York has grown on me monstrously too (which was the only track I didn't like)

I think that too pretty much! Even the mellower subtle moments like This Love or Clean would be good as like a fifth or sixth single to sell the album.

 

I reallt want Style, Wildest Dreams and Welcome To New York to be singles though, and then obviously they'll need to release Out Of The Woods!

I'm happy for any of them to be a single apart from I wish you would have put this song on the deluxe or left it off the album

 

I'd prefer the singles to be out of the woods/ all you had to do was stay/ bad blood/ wildest dreams and I know places

Bad Blood may never become a single

That is the only song I deleted off my iTunes, I have such hate for it ugh

Edited December 23, 201410 yr by Timmy TheSnowman

Bad Blood is the low point for me too, that and How You Get The Girl were removed from my playlist of it.

 

 

 

Oh and thank ye Jake for the offer... I downloaded it last night before I noticed your response... but, as you say, it's a kinda safe ballad thing really, okay but not a stand out.

this album is rather good. Style getting a single push would be fabulous, easily the highlight here. the others being I Wish You Would, Out of the Woods + the 2 singles

 

(as long as they don't give bloody Welcome to New York a single release then all shall be fine~)

 

Bad Blood is the low point for me too, that and How You Get The Girl were removed from my playlist of it.

Oh and thank ye Jake for the offer... I downloaded it last night before I noticed your response... but, as you say, it's a kinda safe ballad thing really, okay but not a stand out.

'bad blood' is essentially a poor-man's avri lavigne track which is saying something

 

do you not think 'i wish you would' is her impersonating the naked and famous? and obviously 'wildest dreams' is lana it's not so much 80s references as it is contemporary ones!

I listened to the bonus tracks, in full agreement that 'Wonderland' and 'New Romantics' should've had a place on the main album. What the hell?! 'You Are In Love' is boring, I have that same opinion of 'This Love' so I guess I'm not feeling the love.

 

Those two should replace the aforementioned 'This Love' and 'All You Had To Do Was Stay' on the main tracklist.

 

'I Know Places' is also properly hitting me now. :wub:

I have finally listened to the bonus tracks in full. I just never ever listen to the bonus tracks unless I can buy the deluxe physical version of the album

 

First thoughts:

Wonderland- First listen: Overrated, Second Listen: Really good

New Romantics- why is this only on the deluxe, so so stunning :wub:

You Are In Love- Very nice

 

W and NR should be on main album over I wish you would and clean while you are in love is where it deserves to be or it can replace this love, I'm not sure :)

 

EDIT: I need New Romantics in my life right now. Purchased on iTunes :wub:

Edited December 23, 201410 yr by Ultraviolence1989

Still makes me sad to see people drag Welcome To New York. :( It's one of my ultimate favourites on there. What is it that people don't like about it?

 

Liam knows where it's at though. ^_^

i find it often gets stuck in my head but idk it feels like an intro and a kind of tacky one at that...

Still makes me sad to see people drag Welcome To New York. :( It's one of my ultimate favourites on there. What is it that people don't like about it?

 

Liam knows where it's at though. ^_^

Yaaassss it's so joyous *.* I just the synths fill me with euphoria like every single time.

Past me would be ASHAMED but I have given in and listened through this ('Blank Space' is just incredible and I really liked 'Shake It Off' too). Time for another hyperbolic rating:

 

6.0 Welcome To New York

11.0 Blank Space

10.0 Style

8.5 Out Of The Woods (9.0 for the middle 8 and chorus alone, the rest slightly drags it down but still v good)

9.0 All You Had To Do Was Stay

9.5 Shake It Off

8.0 I Wish You Would

10.0 Bad Blood

7.5 Wildest Dreams

8.0 How You Get The Girl

9.5 This Love

7.0 I Know Places

6.5 Clean

 

9.5 Wonderland

6.5 You Are In Love

9.5 New Romantics

 

'Welcome To New York' is such a MEH opening, not a bad song per se but it just sounds like a bad attempt at being Katy Perry. After getting through that however this album sounds practically like a greatest hits, she's really got this whole POP MUSIC thing down to a T hasn't she :o Nearly every song here sounds like it could be a big hit if released as a single. Dare I compare it to 'Thriller', as I genuinely get that sort of feeling from it. Last 2 tracks of the standard edition are a bit of a comedown from the rest though, they'd be decent enough as bonus tracks I guess so swap them out for 'Wonderland' and 'New Romantics' and just cut 'Welcome To New York' entirely and this would be pretty much a perfect album. V impressed.

 

If 'Style' is the next single I could see myself growing to love it just as much as 'Blank Space'. 'Bad Blood' is my other massive highlight if you couldn't figure that out from the ratings ~ And 'This Love' is like 10x better than the rest of the slower tracks :heart: Glad there weren't too many of those as she doesn't seem quite as good at them as she is at big pop songs.

My updated rating after a couple of months of sinking in, because I'm bored:

 

10 Welcome To New York (still adore this, I don't get the hate :( it is quite cheesy I guess but the synths are so joyous!)

10 Blank Space

11 Style (really set on this on the next single now <3)

09 Out Of The Woods (it feels weird to say a song that's 9/10 is overrated but this is, it's just that this is far from her best even though it is a 9 because I love so much of her material)

08.5 All You Had To Do Was Stay

10 Shake It Off

08.5 I Wish You Would

09 Bad Blood (for all the Avril Lavigne comparisons, I'd say Avril done well :lol: Which Avril herself can't even do most of the time)

10 Wildest Dreams

09 How You Get The Girl

09 This Love (huge grower from my first impressions!)

09 I Know Places

08 Clean

 

10 Wonderland

06 You R In Love

10 New Romantics

 

That is genuinely my rating :lol: given that this is two months after release, that's a testament to how amazing it is, it's not wearing off at all <3 Because of the high quality I find it hard to pin down a favourite from Blank Space, Style, Shake It Off and Welcome Yo New York, but right now I'd say Style :wub:

My loony looking rating:

 

10.0 Welcome To New York (Oh Bré you nincompoop x)

11.0 Blank Space

10.0 Style

10.0 Out Of The Woods

9.5 All You Had To Do Was Stay

10.0 Shake It Off

9.0 I Wish You Would

9.0 Bad Blood

10.0 Wildest Dreams

7.5 How You Get The Girl

8.0 This Love

8.5 I Know Places

8.0 Clean

10.0 Wonderland

7.0 You Are In Love

10.0 New Romantics

 

... goodness me! The album is pretty incredible, easily one of the best pop albums of the 2010s. Dare I say *the* best? This time last year I wouldn't have thought I'd ever bother to check out a Taylor Swift album, let alone that I'd really love one. I need to check out 'Red' asap.

 

The heavily slated 'Welcome To New York' is such an easy highlight for me. I can't help but feel a little "oh :(" when I see mass dislike for something I really love, but I will have to put this down to different strokes for different folks. Like Liam said, those synths are irresistible to me and as a whole the track has a euphoric, hopeful feeling to it. Such a great opening to the album. :wub:

 

'Style' is the perfect choice for next single - it's my second favourite track on the album. :heart:

 

I had considered 'How You Get The Girl' through to 'Clean' as a noticeable lull on the album, but those tracks have all grown on me considerably. I found 'HYGTG' to be a bit saccharine at first, but I can't deny how catchy it is. It was verging on an '8.0'.

 

'You Are In Love' is the only relatively weak moment, but still worthy of a 7 and more than passable as a deluxe track. Speaking of which, 'Wonderland' and 'New Romantics' seriously deserved a place on the standard album! Although they definitely make purchasing the deluxe super worth it.

When I read that most of the tracks were produced by Max Martin and Shellback I knew this was going to be a monster of an album; it's definitely one of my favourite ever.

 

7.0 Welcome To New York

10.0 Blank Space

11.0 Style

9.0 Out Of The Woods

8.0 All You Had To Do Was Stay

9.75 Shake It Off

7.75 I Wish You Would

10.0 Bad Blood (definitely a '*.*' last chorus moment)

8.0 Wildest Dreams

8.0 How You Get The Girl

8.0 This Love (a solid 12.5 for the middle 8 though)

8.5 I Know Places

5.5 Clean

 

9.5 Wonderland

8.5 You Are In Love

10.0 New Romantics

 

I am SO rooting for Style as the next single (even though it's pretty much a cert). I would very much like to see Bad Blood released, I think that will be the moment that she solidifies her pop move. It seems very unlikely from Taylor, but if she released a rapper remix of it (JAY Z or Iggy?) specifically for US Rhythmic radio, I could see Bad Blood becoming one of, if not her biggest radio hit to date in America. New Romantics seems like a fitting late-summer-early-autumn follow up to Bad Blood with Wildest Dreams (and that X Factor final performance) seeing her and her album sales through Q4 2015.

 

I will never understand why those three bonus tracks were ever put as bonus tracks; I ideally would replace HYGTG, This Love and Clean for all of them. Welcome to New York has grown on me but it's still a very dull opening. That being said, it seems fitting for her fairly-publicised move to New York between Red and 1989; so imo it's a fitting concept backed up by a mediocre song. That and "Clean" aside, this is most definitely her Teenage Dream. I mean that in both senses in that it's a STELLAR pop album and will almost certainly produce a number of hit singles, keeping her ubiquitous in 2015.