June 3, 201411 yr I'm not crazy on the idea but the thing is, sales are falling as they are and including streaming in the charts, which is more popular than ever before is definitely the next logical step to keep the charts relevant and increase sales, and most of the time, it DOES reflect what people are buying, paid streams aside, you'd have to listen to something a lot if you were buying it! The charts will be slow, granted, I'm not looking forward to that but IIRC they were pretty slow when downloads first took off as well, I think it'll sort itself out, it may take a few years. It's been over eight years since downloads were first implemented, the charts have to move forward.
June 3, 201411 yr Streaming will largely benefit One Direction etc! Youtube yes, but they're not that big on Spotify.
June 3, 201411 yr steaming should be at least 50% of the chart tbh :D it'd be mad if we went from starting 2014 like 2000 with massive instability at the top of the chart and ending it ala 1992 with multiple week no1's dominating :lol: thankfully streaming is going to make it a lot harder for the likes of the vamps and 5sos to get top5/10 hits
June 3, 201411 yr Streaming will largely benefit One Direction etc! It depends. In the US One Direction do well on Youtube streaming, but not so well on Spotify streaming. I reckon it'd be the same here. I hope they are going to include Youtube and other sites like that, since it's the only thing that can provide excitement to the charts imo.
June 3, 201411 yr and as we've discussed before, repeat plays on sales don't count, which is all spotify is at the end of the day - the same people playing the same tracks week after week and distorting the charts. At least with sales charts it's genuine NEW people buying the tracks week after week, so it's a more accurate chart of current taste. Mmm it does seem odd when you put it like that. But if they do it like Billboard, you'd have to listen to a song a lot for it to register the equivalent of a sale anyway. I think it's right that people who only stream should have a say in the charts because why should you be penalised for not finding a need to download. But still, it is sad to see the end of an era and I don't really want to see the chart slow down.
June 3, 201411 yr Single sales are still healthy and thriving so this is even more pointless. Maybe if we were still in the sales doldrums of 2007, I'd understand. So do they have to wait for the chart to become irrelevant before they do it?
June 3, 201411 yr That's awful. I hope we'll still get sale informations and not sort of point informations from Alan Jones. Edited June 3, 201411 yr by Haribo
June 3, 201411 yr So do they have to wait for the chart to become irrelevant before they do it? Yes. The fact that sales still provide many million sellers in the last few years proves that streaming isn't that relevant yet in the UK.
June 3, 201411 yr @RecordOfTheDay We hear that streaming data will be added to the Official UK Singles Chart from 29 June, first combined Top 40 chart broadcast on R1 6 July There is no news on MW regarding this yet.
June 3, 201411 yr Spotify's top tracks in the UK as of just now: http://i61.tinypic.com/2ef2cft.jpg Actually not that different from the real chart, except Rather Be and Money On My Mind are still really high and the new releases haven't really taken off yet.
June 3, 201411 yr The UK Spotify Top 50: 1. Waves - Robin Schulz Radio... Mr. Probz 1,162,843 plays 2. Stay With Me Sam Smith 930,406 plays 3. Summer Calvin Harris 919,773 plays 4. Fancy Iggy Azalea 826,487 plays 5. Rather Be feat. Jess Glynne Clean Bandit 746,428 plays 6. All of Me John Legend 700,052 plays 7. Hideaway Kiesza 679,815 plays 8. A Sky Full Of Stars Coldplay 623,957 plays 9. I Will Never Let You Down RITA ORA 604,546 plays 10. Magic Coldplay 560,900 plays 11. Nobody To Love - Extended M... Sigma 522,817 plays 12. Wiggle (feat. Snoop Dogg) Jason Derulo 517,552 plays 13. Dark Horse Katy Perry 516,793 plays 14. Money On My Mind Sam Smith 509,412 plays 15. My Love Route 94 495,077 plays 16. Stay High - Habits Remix Tove Lo 491,225 plays 17. The Man Aloe Blacc 482,529 plays 18. Happy (From "Despicable Me... Pharrell Williams 471,039 plays 19. I Got U Duke Dumont 450,941 plays 20. Bad (feat. Vassy) - Radio E... David Guetta 421,480 plays 21. Timber Pitbull 404,572 plays 22. Turn Down for What DJ Snake & Lil Jon 394,330 plays 23. Birthday Katy Perry 372,054 plays 24. Pompeii Bastille 363,299 plays 25. Riptide Vance Joy 356,152 plays 26. Do I Wanna Know? Arctic Monkeys 354,891 plays 27. Demons Imagine Dragons 353,659 plays 28. Wild Wild Love Pitbull 353,274 plays 29. Loyal Chris Brown 335,758 plays 30. Counting Stars OneRepublic 335,358 plays 31. All of Me - Tiësto's Birthd... John Legend 334,218 plays 32. She Looks So Perfect 5 Seconds Of Summe... 325,721 plays 33. Love Never Felt So Good Michael Jackson 313,069 plays 34. Radioactive Imagine Dragons 302,792 plays 35. Touch Shift K3Y 299,142 plays 36. Let It Go Various Artists 297,840 plays 37. Let Her Go Passenger 294,180 plays 38. Can't Hold Us - feat. Ray D... Macklemore & Ryan... 289,075 plays 39. Best Day Of My Life American Authors 283,751 plays 40. Take Me Home [feat. Bebe Re... Cash Cash 279,334 plays 41. Addicted To You Avicii 278,138 plays 42. Drunk in Love Beyoncé 276,935 plays 43. Not a Bad Thing Justin Timberlake 274,427 plays 44. Let It Go - English Version Various Artists 273,815 plays 45. Hey Brother Avicii 273,410 plays 46. Team Lorde 271,389 plays 47. Dangerous Love Fuse ODG 268,435 plays 48. #SELFIE The Chainsmokers 258,616 plays 49. Extraordinary feat. Sharna... Clean Bandit 254,177 plays 50. Wake Me Up Avicii 251,810 plays How many streams will equal to 1 sale then?
June 3, 201411 yr Well surprisingly there isn't a single One Direction song in the Spotify top 100 singles at the moment! However, Nico & Vinz are currently at #71 so that could be an interesting release to follow considering the iTunes release isn't until the end of August. Surely fan-bases will manipulate the system during release week.
June 3, 201411 yr I'd hope that streaming wouldn't be too influential, at least to start with. So maybe 1 million streams would equal 10,000 sales? Or maybe 20,000 but no more than that.
June 3, 201411 yr Surely fan-bases will manipulate the system during release week. Yeah true, I thought you were referring to an impact on every weekly chart. :kink:
June 3, 201411 yr I suppose the only advantage of including streaming will be that Coldplay will be Top 10 :P
June 3, 201411 yr @RecordOfTheDay We hear that streaming data will be added to the Official UK Singles Chart from 29 June, first combined Top 40 chart broadcast on R1 6 July Ouch, there's gonna be a big shake up in the charts! And that's only 3 weeks before Cheryl releases her single :o
June 3, 201411 yr Ouch, there's gonna be a big shake up in the charts! And that's only 3 weeks before Cheryl releases her single :o Her record label should rush-release it next week. I don't see anything blocking her from #1 at this point.
June 3, 201411 yr That's awful. I hope we'll still get sale informations and not sort of point informations from Alan Jones. This is the main worry I have tbh! I'm not sure how it will be done, nor how they plan to add these to the sale totals of songs released before streaming's added.
June 3, 201411 yr I suppose the only advantage of including streaming will be that Coldplay will be Top 10 :P Just what I was going to say :lol: ASFOS is too good to miss the top 10. It would be nice if it somehow went top 10 for definite but I guess GN was the last straw for not of allowing that to happen :( Edited June 3, 201411 yr by Rob S
June 3, 201411 yr The UK Spotify Top 50: 1. Waves - Robin Schulz Radio... Mr. Probz 1,162,843 plays 2. Stay With Me Sam Smith 930,406 plays 3. Summer Calvin Harris 919,773 plays 4. Fancy Iggy Azalea 826,487 plays 5. Rather Be feat. Jess Glynne Clean Bandit 746,428 plays 6. All of Me John Legend 700,052 plays 7. Hideaway Kiesza 679,815 plays 8. A Sky Full Of Stars Coldplay 623,957 plays 9. I Will Never Let You Down RITA ORA 604,546 plays 10. Magic Coldplay 560,900 plays 11. Nobody To Love - Extended M... Sigma 522,817 plays 12. Wiggle (feat. Snoop Dogg) Jason Derulo 517,552 plays 13. Dark Horse Katy Perry 516,793 plays 14. Money On My Mind Sam Smith 509,412 plays 15. My Love Route 94 495,077 plays 16. Stay High - Habits Remix Tove Lo 491,225 plays 17. The Man Aloe Blacc 482,529 plays 18. Happy (From "Despicable Me... Pharrell Williams 471,039 plays 19. I Got U Duke Dumont 450,941 plays 20. Bad (feat. Vassy) - Radio E... David Guetta 421,480 plays 21. Timber Pitbull 404,572 plays 22. Turn Down for What DJ Snake & Lil Jon 394,330 plays 23. Birthday Katy Perry 372,054 plays 24. Pompeii Bastille 363,299 plays 25. Riptide Vance Joy 356,152 plays 26. Do I Wanna Know? Arctic Monkeys 354,891 plays 27. Demons Imagine Dragons 353,659 plays 28. Wild Wild Love Pitbull 353,274 plays 29. Loyal Chris Brown 335,758 plays 30. Counting Stars OneRepublic 335,358 plays 31. All of Me - Tiësto's Birthd... John Legend 334,218 plays 32. She Looks So Perfect 5 Seconds Of Summe... 325,721 plays 33. Love Never Felt So Good Michael Jackson 313,069 plays 34. Radioactive Imagine Dragons 302,792 plays 35. Touch Shift K3Y 299,142 plays 36. Let It Go Various Artists 297,840 plays 37. Let Her Go Passenger 294,180 plays 38. Can't Hold Us - feat. Ray D... Macklemore & Ryan... 289,075 plays 39. Best Day Of My Life American Authors 283,751 plays 40. Take Me Home [feat. Bebe Re... Cash Cash 279,334 plays 41. Addicted To You Avicii 278,138 plays 42. Drunk in Love Beyoncé 276,935 plays 43. Not a Bad Thing Justin Timberlake 274,427 plays 44. Let It Go - English Version Various Artists 273,815 plays 45. Hey Brother Avicii 273,410 plays 46. Team Lorde 271,389 plays 47. Dangerous Love Fuse ODG 268,435 plays 48. #SELFIE The Chainsmokers 258,616 plays 49. Extraordinary feat. Sharna... Clean Bandit 254,177 plays 50. Wake Me Up Avicii 251,810 plays How many streams will equal to 1 sale then? When you look at these figures, it's difficult to argue that streaming shouldn't be included. You can make sals top 40 with a fanbase of a few thousand, but you need to have genuine popularity to get the figures you need to make the streaming chart top 40. Of course this has always been the same, but whilst it's annoying that general public seem to like listening to tired old songs for months on end, if that's what they are doing it should probably be reflected.
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