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I think 'Dancing Queen' got to no.1 in the US though, but they never really had any sustained success stateside.

that's a myth, happily. A number one, 4 top 10's, 10 Top 20's, 14 Top 40's over an 8-year period. Most non-US acts would kill for that sort of success these days....

 

They weren't as huge as the rest of the Western world in the States, but still fairly successful and some of them weren't released as singles in the UK.

 

How about last year's Safe And Sound (Capital Cities) which bombed in the UK, seemed to be big most places (I stand to be corrected though cos I havent checked!) :lol:

 

 

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- Swedish House Mafia - Don't You Worry Child

Top 10 pretty much everywhere, only #37 peak in France

 

- The Script feat. Will.i.am - Hall Of Fame

Top 20 easily everywhere, barely #60 peak in France

 

- Snoop Dogg & Wiz Khalifa feat. Bruno Mars - Young, Wild & Free

Top 20 all around Europe and Oceania, #44 peak in the UK (didn't chart in Spain though)

 

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Again high peaks practically everywhere except from France (#59) and no chart entry in Spain

 

- Cee-Lo Green - f*** You

Another example of France sticking out (#84) in terms of peaks with Spain missing this hit completely

 

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Mainly Top 10 around the world with Guetta's homeland of France bizarrely ranking it at #72 only

 

- B.o.B feat. Hayley Williams - Airplanes

Among all the Top 10's France looks again weird with a peak of #89, no chart success in Spain either

 

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Top 10/20 in most of European countries bar Germany where it peaked at #80

 

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No entry in Spain and a single week in the French Top 200 (at #169) for this million seller

 

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Top 3 basically all over the world meanwhile a poor peak of #38 in Spain

 

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Once again Spaniards surprised with a low #41 peak having been its single week in their Top 50

 

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A Top 5 hit virtually everywhere but it flopped in Sweden peaking at a low #45

 

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It was a smash making loads of Top 10's but France lagged behind with a #57 peak

 

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- Daddy Yankee - Gasolina

Another worldwide smash that only charted as low as #44 in Sweden

I think (though I may be wrong) France's chart was still based on physical sales only until very recently hence the outliers.

[quote name='popchartfreak' date='Sep 17 2014, 09:34 PM' post='4811561'

How about last year's Safe And Sound (Capital Cities) which bombed in the UK, seemed to be big most places (I stand to be corrected though cos I havent checked!) :lol:

I don't really follow the charts anymore and I'd never had guessed that only reached #42 in the UK, because even in the UK it seemed to be everywhere for like 2 years straight?! Even given that I thought it'd be something that would stay in the charts for weeks on end, but Polyhex tells me it managed just one week in the top 75. Curious.

For some reason I'm really expecting 'Safe & Sound' to get some sort of reality TV show boost (maybe this year on XF?) and become a pretty moderate sized hit.

France is filled with a lot of French language hits that will push English ones further down the charts. On the flipside of the thread, most of the biggest-selling hits in French history haven't charted in many other countries.

 

All the ones I can think of are, as many have already mentioned, huge European hits that were huge everywhere except the UK - biggest is La Bouche's 'Be My Lover', #27 in UK but a big #1 or top 5 hit in most of the rest of Europe.

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'Safe And Sound' is one of those tracks I still hear around an awful lot, but at the time the likes of Radio 1 wouldn't go for it which was just bizarre. Maybe one day it will get a second wind from somewhere.
I think (though I may be wrong) France's chart was still based on physical sales only until very recently hence the outliers.

They incorporated digital sales in January 2011, next month they're adding streams.

 

France is an interesting market where a lot of worldwide blockbuster hits flop or underperform meanwhile some other international minor hits are able to do big things (Rihanna's "Man Down", Starsailor's "Four To The Floor", DJ Bobo's "Chihuahua", Gala's "Let A Boy Cry" were all #1 hits there).

I had no idea Hips Don't Lie only got to No.45 in Sweden!?! :o And then Waka Waka was a No.1 that charted there for 58 weeks! Truly bizarre!
They incorporated digital sales in January 2011, next month they're adding streams.

 

France is an interesting market where a lot of worldwide blockbuster hits flop or underperform meanwhile some other international minor hits are able to do big things (Rihanna's "Man Down", Starsailor's "Four To The Floor", DJ Bobo's "Chihuahua", Gala's "Let A Boy Cry" were all #1 hits there).

"Let A Boy Cry" :wub:

I believe in France, there is a rule where 60% of the artists on French Radio and TV have to be French or French language, hence the low peaks of international hits. The French are VERY PROTECTIVE of their own culture and language. Spain is the same too.
They incorporated digital sales in January 2011, next month they're adding streams.

 

France is an interesting market where a lot of worldwide blockbuster hits flop or underperform meanwhile some other international minor hits are able to do big things (Rihanna's "Man Down", Starsailor's "Four To The Floor", DJ Bobo's "Chihuahua", Gala's "Let A Boy Cry" were all #1 hits there).

 

I'm honestly surprised that it took SNEP that quick to add streams and such a long time to add downloads.

 

I believe in France, there is a rule where 60% of the artists on French Radio and TV have to be French or French language, hence the low peaks of international hits. The French are VERY PROTECTIVE of their own culture and language. Spain is the same too.

 

Exactly. Top album charts in France are dominated by French artists and NRJ compilations. Taylor Swift's last album only made Top 30 with 30k sales there and Ariana's new album only made Top 20. In the singles charts, it tends to be mixed, especially as of recent. It should be interesting how it will shape up when streaming gets added next month. After all, The French streams way more than they download.

I believe in France, there is a rule where 60% of the artists on French Radio and TV have to be French or French language, hence the low peaks of international hits. The French are VERY PROTECTIVE of their own culture and language. Spain is the same too.

Isn't there a similar rule for the UK regarding British artists getting airtime too? There's certainly a lot of homegrown acts on the radio 1 playlist at any time.

 

The Safe and Sound situation reminds me of Classic, where the BBC decided it was more of a radio 2 song so didn't reach its full chart potential. (I don't think either of them were playlisted by R1). Except Classic actually did decently in the chart

On a European scale, Lena's 'Satellite' was top 10 just about everywhere but only got to #30 here after a late release on the week after her Eurovision win. It only missed the top 10 in a couple of other countries - most notably Spain and The Netherlands.

Britney 'I Wanna Go'

 

I'm sure it went top 10 in the US, but didn't go top 100 in the UK...

Britney 'I Wanna Go'

 

I'm sure it went top 10 in the US, but didn't go top 100 in the UK...

 

But that's hardly one country "snubbing" it - if Wikipedia can be believed the only other countries where it made the Top 10 were Korea, France, Flanders & Finland

 

A couple of other examples with not always only ONE country where the song underperforms but often it's the whole region.

 

 

- John Newman - Love Me Again

It only made #34 in Sweden despite going Top 10 in almost every other European country + Oceania

 

- Olly Murs feat. Flo Rida - Troublemaker

It performed very poorly in the Netherlands spending only 7 weeks in their Top 100 with a #66 peak

 

- Miley Cyrus - We Can't Stop

Top 20 nearly everywhere, even in France it reached #26 however in the Netherlands only #48

 

- Wiz Khalifa feat. 2 Chainz - We Own It

Multiple Top 10's and Top 20's but a mere 3 weeks in the Dutch Top 100 (peak: #48, even lower than in Spain where rap doesn't usually sell at all)

 

- OneRepublic - Stop And Stare

Somehow their Dutch profile is pretty irrelevant even more than the UK one prior to "Counting Stars" but this old hit only reached #46 in Holland despite succeeding in the UK

 

- Asaf Avidan & The Mojos - One Day/Reckoning Song

Top 10 across the whole continental Europe but a low Top 30 in the UK and - not unexpectedly - #33 in Spain

 

- Lykke Li - I Follow Rivers

Top 5 in practically each pan-European country thanks to the Magicians remix which wasn't apparently released in the UK, bizarrely her homeland Sweden only ranked the song at #44 and its neighbour Denmark at #40

 

- Gossip - Heavy Cross

Poor performance in the UK (low Top 40) although it went Top 5/Top 10 in most markets with even a #23 peak in France

 

- David Guetta feat. Nicki Minaj - Turn Me On

Big success worthy of at least a Top 30 place everywhere bar the Netherlands where it peaked at #68

 

- Kelly Clarkson - Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You)

See as above, it never went higher than #59 in Holland, at least Top 30 elsewhere

 

- Eminem - Not Afraid

Top 15 everywhere, #29 in Spain, #97 in France

 

- Jason Derulo - In My Head

Top 20 all around and only #43 peak in the Netherlands

 

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