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I'd quite like Harry to be high as second place. In fact, my ideal top 2 would probably be Sam/Harry, but there's not a hope in hell of that happening. Realistically, their best chances would be for the other to go this Friday, since they both seem to be garnering the underdog vote.

 

And unfortunately, I can't see Danny being as low as 5th. I still think a top 2 of Danny/Joel is inevitable, as f***ing nauseating as that prospect is.

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That's a bit of an exaggeration. He asked for a takeaway for the group and would have shared it no doubt. It was a silly prank that went awry. The group have acknowledged that.

 

There are plenty of selfish people in that house. Is the fact that he is a tory voter so relevant? It doesn't cloud my judgement of him, just basing my opinion on what I've seen in the house.

I didn't get the impression he was expecting enough pizza for everybody. Even if he did, the price was excessive and it doesn't excuse his willingness to use the prized fund to buy his way out of nomination.

 

Yes, it is relevant that he is a Tory. He has shown how willing he is to use money that isn't his (the prize fund) to benefit himself.

I didn't get the impression he was expecting enough pizza for everybody. Even if he did, the price was excessive and it doesn't excuse his willingness to use the prized fund to buy his way out of nomination.

 

Yes, it is relevant that he is a Tory. He has shown how willing he is to use money that isn't his (the prize fund) to benefit himself.

 

I tend to stay away from sweeping generalisations sorry. I could easily say that people who choose not to to work/have never worked/irresponsible types are "taking money that isn't theirs to benefit themselves" from people that do/are responsible but politics is not that simple (at least for me) and its probably a bit heavy for a Big Brother discussion. So I will leave it there.

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I'm just watching yesterday's show and Jack really thinks he's taking Marc's place now doesn't he?! Emphasise how it's a game show, trying to be """""funny"""""" winding people up etc. and I can just see the braindead Facebook page commenters thinking Marc going was a fix lapping it up. Really doubting his chances of going :(

 

He REALLY needs to go though because if Harry survives on Friday she could be top 3. I'll sacrifice Chloe for her (but not queen Sam) though.

I haven't commented in this main thread for a while because my opnions are all over the place. I don't think I've changed my mind so much/often over the housemates with just one week to go. I suppose it might be because we're finally get to see them all rather than it being the Helen/Nikki/Bruan show or the Marc show.
So Chloe has no opinion for weeks and now she decides to pipe up everyone has to agree with her. She doesn't want to hear anything. Horrible cow. She would know about being manipulative. Disappointed in Sam as well just copying what Chloe said. Joel was just discussing fgs. Funny they take turns just singling people out. If you don't agree with "the group" they spend their time slating your character and trying to make you an outcast. Then they all follow along like sheep repeating in the hope of convincing everyone. Morons!

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'Horrible cow'? Bit far :/

 

I completely get what they were saying about Joel. I'm not saying either parties to the argument were in the right because I don't think either were (a trend in recent arguments which is why I made my above post). Joel is a growing politician and a head of a student union showing he has excellent debating skills which therefore means he's far more likely to twist someone else's arguement to fit what he's saying because he knows what he's doing, hence why they're saying he's manipulative.

'Horrible cow'? Bit far :/

 

I completely get what they were saying about Joel. I'm not saying either parties to the argument were in the right because I don't think either were (a trend in recent arguments which is why I made my above post). Joel is a growing politician and a head of a student union showing he has excellent debating skills which therefore means he's far more likely to twist someone else's arguement to fit what he's saying because he knows what he's doing, hence why they're saying he's manipulative.

 

Sorry for the language but I think she's been awful this episode. Where did all this come from? Cried at the drop if a hat for weeks and now arguing at every opportunity. I don't mean this to come out wrong but its not Joel's fault some of them can't string a sentence together (Cristian and Danny) Joel is very clever and that's one of the reason I like him, he sees things and is not afraid to be in a minority and have a different opinion. I think they are threatened by him tbh. Him and Harry are the only ones I can tolerate right now.

Harry was wrong to get involved in that initial Chloe/Jack confrontation don't get me wrong, but from then on she was absolutely incredible in tonight's episode. Especially when she said face-to-face to Jack about the fact that he thinks he is too good to be nominated - which 99% of people in here have said for weeks.

 

Furthermore Harry picked up on Nick's plotting. Of course you will think I'm biased, but we have got to remember Nick is a Big Brother superfan - he knows how the show works from top to bottom. He knows Harry isn't be perceived well on the outside and he knows it is coming across that Harry is intimidating him, Harry even says this herself. Therefore Nick knows that this would be the perfect time to be "the hero" and untrap himself from Harry and giving him a "winner's journey". Nick has been moaning about this arguing for ages now, so what better time to stand up for himself than 7 days away from the final?

 

Harry won't get through Friday's eviction unfortunately, but if she somehow did she is suddenly a top 3 contender. Her odds are continuing to drop, she was 50/1 a couple of days ago - now she is 12/1.

Sorry to be honest but that's the first time I've properly agreed with you in a few weeks Torres :kink: Chloe definitely came across very argumentative in this episode but I think it's just a matter of when money is at stake they all get defensive and start arguing with each other. I haven't totally gone off Chloe as I do think she's still a nice person but at least this shows she's human having this side. It's impossible to be all nice and bubbly throughout!

 

 

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Harry is really going down in my estimations right now, tonight was uncomfortable due to both her AND Jack, but if Harry didn't interrupt Jack and Chloe's conversation then none of that would've happened. Besides, her strop with Nick's joke was ridiculous, it was CLEARLY some banter. When Harry's fun, she's great, but she's so miserable recently :(
Sorry to be honest but that's the first time I've properly agreed with you in a few weeks Torres :kink: Chloe definitely came across very argumentative in this episode but I think it's just a matter of when money is at stake they all get defensive and start arguing with each other. I haven't totally gone off Chloe as I do think she's still a nice person but at least this shows she's human having this side. It's impossible to be all nice and bubbly throughout!

 

I like honest :) Thanks.

 

I've never been her biggest fan and I'm certainly not a fan of Jack (been wanting him out for weeks) but she was very quick to sell him down the river tonight.

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Harry did hande that wrongly, but to be fair that was one of those arguments where nobody came out that well. Danny annoyed me almost as much as Jack though - it really showed his hypocrisy that he kept telling Harry "don't get involved" - WHILST getting himself involved!

 

And Ryan is right, she nailed Jack. I can't believed it's taken this long for somebody to call Jack out like that, he's been acting ike a self entitled brat since being voted the winner in that car twist and that was what, day 11? It's ridiculous. They're all in the game and nobody is too good for nomination or eviction, nobody is above it, but he gets so much as one little negative comments and has a sulky tantrum about it, let alone if he's nominated! But he is going nowhere because he's an overweight "normal" male and the public will lap it up. Harry needs to survive because she'll com top 3 if she does and one of the major reasons I want that is because of how much it will piss the others off. They've been against Harry and Sam for weeks now, just because they're newbies. For example, they're being used as scapegoat cop-out nominations and Joel seems to ALWAYS choose Sam for bad things (for example when destroying the letters). But also because the public need to see that being an outspoken female doesn't mean "UGH BITCH EVICT HER". Harry hasn't been needlessly nasty or offended anyone and I'm sorry but it's no wonder she's cracking up when they're all against her like that! I guarantee if Danny or Joel had interuptted that, it wouldn't have been such an issue.

 

 

Pretty much everyone is being shown badly somehow or another in the pas few days, I really think that aside from Sam (sadly), ANY of them could realistically win :o Certainly this is the closest series I've ever seen.

'Horrible cow'? Bit far :/

 

I completely get what they were saying about Joel. I'm not saying either parties to the argument were in the right because I don't think either were (a trend in recent arguments which is why I made my above post). Joel is a growing politician and a head of a student union showing he has excellent debating skills which therefore means he's far more likely to twist someone else's arguement to fit what he's saying because he knows what he's doing, hence why they're saying he's manipulative.

Yes. Joel acted exactly like a budding politician. However, as he is still young, it wasn't particularly subtle. He is generally good at keeping calm, which makes him seem reasonable even when he's talking rubbish.

Harry did hande that wrongly, but to be fair that was one of those arguments where nobody came out that well. Danny annoyed me almost as much as Jack though - it really showed his hypocrisy that he kept telling Harry "don't get involved" - WHILST getting himself involved!

 

And Ryan is right, she nailed Jack. I can't believed it's taken this long for somebody to call Jack out like that, he's been acting ike a self entitled brat since being voted the winner in that car twist and that was what, day 11? It's ridiculous. They're all in the game and nobody is too good for nomination or eviction, nobody is above it, but he gets so much as one little negative comments and has a sulky tantrum about it, let alone if he's nominated! But he is going nowhere because he's an overweight "normal" male and the public will lap it up. Harry needs to survive because she'll com top 3 if she does and one of the major reasons I want that is because of how much it will piss the others off. They've been against Harry and Sam for weeks now, just because they're newbies. For example, they're being used as scapegoat cop-out nominations and Joel seems to ALWAYS choose Sam for bad things (for example when destroying the letters). But also because the public need to see that being an outspoken female doesn't mean "UGH BITCH EVICT HER". Harry hasn't been needlessly nasty or offended anyone and I'm sorry but it's no wonder she's cracking up when they're all against her like that! I guarantee if Danny or Joel had interuptted that, it wouldn't have been such an issue.

Pretty much everyone is being shown badly somehow or another in the pas few days, I really think that aside from Sam (sadly), ANY of them could realistically win :o Certainly this is the closest series I've ever seen.

Agreed completely I would love an outspoken female to do well....apart from Helen who was plain horrible

Harry's voice is so irritating to listen to, she sounds like an old lady and constantly wines and complains.

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