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From Metro online.

 

"Millions of Brits will be forced to pay more on their student loans under a “stealth tax rise” slipped out by the government today.

 

Student loan repayment thresholds will be frozen from April 6 after ministers scrapped plans to raise them by 4.6%.

 

That means graduates will have to shell out more of their disposable income as wages and prices rise with inflation.

 

The respected Institute for Fiscal Studies warned the freeze will cost £30k earners £113 a year more than they would have expected."

 

 

Am not having a go at students but surely on 39k a year they won't really notice a couple of quid a week, around £9 a month?

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Well it’s interesting the government have blocked a report showing research into whether sanctions are an effective way to get people into work. I think the answer is pretty obvious that the policy will backfire and is likely to just put unnecessary stress on claimants and the government clearly doesn’t want to listen because they don’t care.

 

 

Some claimants are too choosy though. If there isn't a job for an unemployed accountant then he should go to Tesco or sweeping floors. Research has proved you can get a job easier if you're already in one.

 

Was reading in The Student Room last night of a graduate with a 2:2 in History who has only had voluntary work in the 5 years since leaving uni. :o He's been on benefits since the day he graduated and won't apply for a shop, restaurant jobs or anything he considers menial. :rolleyes: Tesco have told him he's overqualified and will leave as soon as he gets a better offer.

 

Some replies blamed the 2:2 and other blamed History for his lack of success.

I wish it was a couple of quid a week, I'm paying about 140 a month I believe!

 

 

A couple of quid a week EXTRA. :)

Yet again the Boomer's war on the young and educated who will probably never vote Tory. Every thing they do is cynical and based upon greed.
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Some claimants are too choosy though. If there isn't a job for an unemployed accountant then he should go to Tesco or sweeping floors. Research has proved you can get a job easier if you're already in one.

 

Was reading in The Student Room last night of a graduate with a 2:2 in History who has only had voluntary work in the 5 years since leaving uni. :o He's been on benefits since the day he graduated and won't apply for a shop, restaurant jobs or anything he considers menial. :rolleyes: Tesco have told him he's overqualified and will leave as soon as he gets a better offer.

 

Some replies blamed the 2:2 and other blamed History for his lack of success.

Why would a supermarket employ a qualified accountant as a cleaner when they know that person will be looking to leave at the earliest opportunity? Do you really think employers who are already receiving huge numbers of applications really want to receive even more to be ploughed through? Not only will it take up more time, it will increase the chances that the best person for the job will slip through the net.

Tories and police in it together, once again, with media help along the line. This is one of the most corrupt countries on earth, built to protect the upper classes, and commin sense is just fine with that! Sham democracy.
Some claimants are too choosy though. If there isn't a job for an unemployed accountant then he should go to Tesco or sweeping floors. Research has proved you can get a job easier if you're already in one.

 

Was reading in The Student Room last night of a graduate with a 2:2 in History who has only had voluntary work in the 5 years since leaving uni. :o He's been on benefits since the day he graduated and won't apply for a shop, restaurant jobs or anything he considers menial. :rolleyes: Tesco have told him he's overqualified and will leave as soon as he gets a better offer.

 

Some replies blamed the 2:2 and other blamed History for his lack of success.

 

Jesus. The irony meter has just exploded.

 

Well, Grays's still going ahead with it without delay, take from that what you will.

 

Part of me's a bit worried it'll be a damp squib and the Met Police investigation even more so given how in his back pocket they are.

The student loan threshold isn't that bad, it would be worse if it was put to £23,000 like was suggested. Hasn't Rishi also closed the "work from home" tax loophole, that is not a loophole too? Saves about £500m a year and he's just written off billions of fraud payments. 100% agree there needs to be tax rises one way or another to raise capital, but this cost of living squeeze is going to be huge on lots of families.
Some claimants are too choosy though. If there isn't a job for an unemployed accountant then he should go to Tesco or sweeping floors. Research has proved you can get a job easier if you're already in one.

 

Was reading in The Student Room last night of a graduate with a 2:2 in History who has only had voluntary work in the 5 years since leaving uni. :o He's been on benefits since the day he graduated and won't apply for a shop, restaurant jobs or anything he considers menial. :rolleyes: Tesco have told him he's overqualified and will leave as soon as he gets a better offer.

 

Some replies blamed the 2:2 and other blamed History for his lack of success.

 

And how on earth will changing rules for people who've been on benefits for less than a month solve the issue of obvious scroungers who've been on benefit for 5 years?

 

Applying for jobs I'm not qualified for is a waste of my time and the employers. Especially when the person actually interviewing you isn't making the decisions regarding who gets interviewed. I've had a number if interviews recebtly where I've run into that issue.

 

Well it’s interesting the government have blocked a report showing research into whether sanctions are an effective way to get people into work. I think the answer is pretty obvious that the policy will backfire and is likely to just put unnecessary stress on claimants and the government clearly doesn’t want to listen because they don’t care.

 

The problem is that these sanctions hit genuine jobseekers who are new to the system and the vulnerable.

 

Scroungers know exactly how to keep their benefits and comply with the rules, after all that's their full time job!!

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the reports been blocked because it shows most sanctioned are short term claimants

 

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And how on earth will changing rules for people who've been on benefits for less than a month solve the issue of obvious scroungers who've been on benefit for 5 years?

 

Applying for jobs I'm not qualified for is a waste of my time and the employers. Especially when the person actually interviewing you isn't making the decisions regarding who gets interviewed. I've had a number if interviews recebtly where I've run into that issue.

 

I wouldn't bother, he won't respond.

I'm glad the student loan threshold is only being frozen. I was really worried when there were talks of lowering it to as low as £20,000. Especially when compounded with the NI rise would've meant I would see quite the pay cut, even if I got a 1-2% pay rise (which is the standard pay rise usually where I work if we get one).

 

 

From Metro online.

 

"Millions of Brits will be forced to pay more on their student loans under a “stealth tax rise” slipped out by the government today.

 

Student loan repayment thresholds will be frozen from April 6 after ministers scrapped plans to raise them by 4.6%.

 

That means graduates will have to shell out more of their disposable income as wages and prices rise with inflation.

 

The respected Institute for Fiscal Studies warned the freeze will cost £30k earners £113 a year more than they would have expected."

Am not having a go at students but surely on 39k a year they won't really notice a couple of quid a week, around £9 a month?

On behalf of Millennials and Gen Z globally paying off student loans is like to invite you to go f*** yourself with an electric fence

 

 

We’re already suffering depressed wages and insane cost of living, a freeze is so noticeable. But at least it’s not a cut. That would be catastrophic.

 

You don’t get it. Millennials are deep into their second major economic crisis and wages *never* recovered after the first. The purchase power or even earning power of a pound when you last had a job back when dinosaurs roamed the earth is so many multiple times more than what it’s worth now. Imagine back to that time when you contributed to society and think of the impact of all of your outgoings rising 500% but your wages decreasing by 20%. That’s our world

 

Why would a supermarket employ a qualified accountant as a cleaner when they know that person will be looking to leave at the earliest opportunity? Do you really think employers who are already receiving huge numbers of applications really want to receive even more to be ploughed through? Not only will it take up more time, it will increase the chances that the best person for the job will slip through the net.

To be fair he wouldn’t be qualified but otherwise yeah. I’ve been there post-Credit crunch. No one will hire a graduate because they think they’re not there for the long run

You don’t get it. Millennials are deep into their second major economic crisis and wages *never* recovered after the first. The purchase power or even earning power of a pound when you last had a job back when dinosaurs roamed the earth is so many multiple times more than what it’s worth now. Imagine back to that time when you contributed to society and think of the impact of all of your outgoings rising 500% but your wages decreasing by 20%. That’s our world

 

 

My world too in fact as I haven't had an increase in my ESA for years now. It's been frozen for years and think in April we do get a slight rise, less than 1%. Used to be tied to the rate of inflation.

 

 

Re: Student loans. Further Education should be free and everyone should pay tax towards it to encourage the poor to go into further education.

 

That said, I left Uni with a degree when there were 3 million unemployed and applied for everything degree-related with no success for 2 years. In the end I had no choice but to apply for factory jobs and work in factories for 2 years. if there's no jobs, that's the reality. The longer you are out of work, the more employers will question why you are still out of work, and if you are out of work a year they will opt for newly-graduated students the following year instead who dont have the stigma of being out of work. Faced with a choice of 2 candidates, one fresh-faced and enthusiastic who's happy doing a bit of check-out work for a bit, one a bit worn down from endless interviews and no recent working experience to point to, guess which one will get the job.....

 

But yes, I also heard the "too overqualified for the job" excuse, and they do expect you to leave soon as something better comes along, but the job market for employers right now is they can't be too choosy, when I was looking back in pre-history they had 3 million to pick from and could be choosy.

So, we are now told that Sue Gray has been asked to make sure that her investigation into whether there were any parties in Downing Street should avoid mentioning whether there were any parties in Downing Street. Continuing with this approach, Sunak's next Budget speech will be devoted entirely to his favourite recipes and all commentators at the World Cup in November and December will avoid mentioning the names of any teams or players or, indeed, the words ball, goal, corner, foul, penalty or VAR.

 

...and on a completely unrelated note, Johnson, who just called a colleague "fat" in so many words, and has a history of unkind remarks to minorities cos it's "funny" is suddenly getting positive media pieces for supporting a cause and is flying off to Ukraine to thwart invasion when a few months ago he and his band of misfits couldn't even be arsed to rescue people from Afghanistan that had supported British troops and interests, and are not too fussed about starving people selling kidneys for money to eat as a consequence of failed policy.

 

One might dare to suggest that this sheer hypocrisy is down to a media blitz to save his own neck, rather than any actual sincere belief in anything that doesn't involve ego-massaging.

Well if they really want to put pressure on Russia they should investigate the dodgy money they have in erm, London.

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/may/2...its-dirty-money

 

But many of them are Tory donors too so wouldn't hold my breath.

 

It's the same as our weapons deals with Saudi. The UK is not an innocent party in any of these Global conflicts.

 

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