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God, I hate them so much.

 

Remind me, which PM was it who supported Jimmy Savile's knighthood? :rolleyes:

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God, I hate them so much.

 

Remind me, which PM was it who supported Jimmy Savile's knighthood? :rolleyes:

It would be the PM who invited him to spend New Year’s Eve at Chequers for every one of the 11 years she was in office.

The only good thing is that it is fracturing the Tory party with the Trumplike populists against the "decent" Tory MPs (I use that expression relatively) who are disgusted with Johnson's conduct (even if they can't bring pen to paper to write that letter just yet) and it would have been brought up at the next election anyhow so probably good it's out in the air now so it can be debunked.
It would be the PM who invited him to spend New Year’s Eve at Chequers for every one of the 11 years she was in office.

 

Not defending Savile one iota but to be fair, she probably had no idea of what he was up to, as many didn't. :( It's alright lots saying they had suspicions in hindsight.

Not defending Savile one iota but to be fair, she probably had no idea of what he was up to, as many didn't. :( It's alright lots saying they had suspicions in hindsight.

 

Do yourself a favour and go look up his old clips of him talking on clip shows, interviews with people around him, comedy clips from when he was alive, john lydon's BBC ban etc. His activities were known by most politicians, most TV professionals and most royal family members, as well as much of the press. And he himself clearly knew how untouchable he was, due to who else was involved in similar things that he was. I'm no David Icke subscriber but he was very much the public face and catch all for something spreading far wider around the upper echelons of British society.

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Not defending Savile one iota but to be fair, she probably had no idea of what he was up to, as many didn't. :( It's alright lots saying they had suspicions in hindsight.

It still seems odd though. Surely all visitors to Chequers would have been vetted - certainly by the security services, probably by party officials. It seems highly unlikely that nothing was uncovered.

I think that it went on for too long to such an extent that it cannot possible that people didn’t know at least rumours about hi

 

 

Same now with all these downing st parties (I’m betting there’s more than the ones in the report) - there’s no way hoards of folks don’t know about this. There will be a long list of folks with knowledge about what happened and have been involved in either passively or actively covering it up

If we can get a split to develop in the Conservative Party then that would be a great result, it's fairly unlikely, more likely is that the party becomes very badly damaged by this - also good. I don't see him going, he will refuse to resign - the only way he is going is being kicked out by the Tories and they won't want to do that quite yet. Let him take the flak for the 10.4% increase in National Insurance that is happening from April and the absolutely huge increases in energy prices (likely food, inflation and council tax too).

 

Hearing that MPs were pretty shocked by how brazen, cocky and bombastic the PM was when he was supposed to be apologising - not a good look. Think the public will be pretty appalled & angered by his performance.

 

The Machiavellian Dr B, love it!!! :D

Watched Keir Starmers performance today from yesterdays debate and it was probably the best I’ve seen from him ever. He got the tone perfectly right he spoke to the country and the Conservative party and was humble. Johnson looked terrible repeating fake news about Saville and made a fool of himself.

 

Then Nadine Dorries performance of Ch4 news was hilarious confirming how poorly briefed she is on every subject.

Watched Keir Starmers performance today from yesterdays debate and it was probably the best I’ve seen from him ever. He got the tone perfectly right he spoke to the country and the Conservative party and was humble. Johnson looked terrible repeating fake news about Saville and made a fool of himself.

 

Then Nadine Dorries performance of Ch4 news was hilarious confirming how poorly briefed she is on every subject.

 

Is she poorly briefed or just a massive deluded Johnson fan? I imagine it’d have been a similar response if they interviewed Chris.

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It has t5o be assumed that Dorries is just about bright enough to have worked out that she has no chance of keeping her job under a different PM.

 

Johnson's Savile reference rally does plumb new depths, even for him. parliamentary privilege is there for good reason but Johnson has flagrantly abused it. With Lynton Crosby back on the scene, we can expect a lot more of this sort of nonsense.

I echo the stuff about Saville and Starmer. Firstly on Saville, there was always rumours about him. Clearly lots of people knew what he got up to (although most of these people who were propbably accessories are long dead too). I think there was a relaxed attitude to Saville, not so sure everyone knew the full extent of what he was up to and we probably never will. But Johnson's attempt to use that against Starmer is just horrendous, the lowest of the low. Trying to change the narrative and it's not right and completely fabricated.

 

The only good thing is that it is fracturing the Tory party with the Trumplike populists against the "decent" Tory MPs (I use that expression relatively) who are disgusted with Johnson's conduct (even if they can't bring pen to paper to write that letter just yet) and it would have been brought up at the next election anyhow so probably good it's out in the air now so it can be debunked.

 

Johnson banised most of the good Tory MPs, ones he saw as threat to him or the ones who were not willing to go with the Party line. The ones that are left now understand the Johnson cult (Rees-Mogg was spouting the stuff that the country voted for Boris and not the Tories), have been there for ages or are just bastshit. Think you've got 30-35 backbenchers who understand the Conservative brand and consider the long term effects of Johnson, so a lot of it will come down to do people support Johnson or the Conservative brand as they are two slightly different things.

Is she poorly briefed or just a massive deluded Johnson fan? I imagine it’d have been a similar response if they interviewed Chris.

 

I was going to make that comparison :lol:

Oh look. Ian blackford was right!

 

Interesting how you can get chucked out of the Commons for telling the truth!

That’s the Telegraph breaking the story. Interesting……

 

This thread would blow Buzzjack servers if we dealt with all of Johnson’s lies and deceit in even a day. He lies as easy as he breathes.

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