I will be voting for Andrea Leadsom, who I totally believe will become our greatest prime minister since Margret Thatcher! ^_^

Of course you do.

It's a shitty situation this - effectively two different parties masquerading as one in order to get a private election of the next government. If May wins then it'll be business as usual, if Leadsome wins then there'll be a mass cabinet clearout and a hard switch to the right. And something like 0.2% of the population get to decide by dint of being members of some overarching thing called the Conservative party (one that currently houses two very distinct parties if you ask me)

 

If we do go far right, then expect Leadsome to gleefully press the Brexit button and start removing all the rights of workers so that "poor" business leaders don't have to keep worry about paid holidays, sick pay, maternity leave, paternity leave, pensions etc.

 

It's almost as if the whole last year and a half were planned meticulously....

*.* Delighted to see more Conservative party members on Buzzjack! ^_^

 

 

 

I'm thinking of joining now too. Going to coffee mornings may expand my social life a bit. Only sane party there is now.

Edited July 8, 20169 yr by Common Sense

I can't imagine the Conservative Party has much of a membership presence in Barking.

It's almost as if the whole last year and a half were planned meticulously....

You think David Cameron planned to have his career go up in flames to aid a wing of his party that has given him nothing but pain the last six years?

No, but the other half might have :D

I think it's pretty clear that this was almost an accident for the right of the Tories as well. A month ago, they'd have probably thought the best they could hope for would be Boris offering them a few chunky policy concessions.

If we do go far right, then expect Leadsome to gleefully press the Brexit button and start removing all the rights of workers so that "poor" business leaders don't have to keep worry about paid holidays, sick pay, maternity leave, paternity leave, pensions etc.

 

I've seen this claim made about Andrea Leadsom re: workers rights quite a lot in the past few days, but it appears that those that have have willfully misrepresented what is she actually said. She said that only those companies that had THREE employees or fewer should be exempt from the minimum wage etc. Now you might say that even when it comes to micro-businesses it is still unacceptable, and that's fair enough (I'd have some misgivings about it myself). But to present an image that a Leadsom Prime Ministership will see people working in Tesco being paid 37 pence an hour, being chained to the checkout until the moment they give birth and forced to work until they're 89, which isn't too far off how some people are portraying her stance on workers rights, is disingenuous to the n'th degree, especially the businesses I imagine she had in mind were more along the line of cottage industry start-ups making bacon scented car fresheners, or edible rosary beads, or some other weird thing.

 

Do I think she'll get the leadership? I can't see it happening due to the quick turnaround of the leadership contest. Had she had a longer run-in time she could have clinched it, as her style is definitely more emotion-baiting than May's and would eat away over time.

There is a case to be made for having looser employment regulations for very small businesses. However, the real danger is what happens after that. Growing employers with three employees will soon start complaining that the overall cost of employing a fourth person is too great and that there should be another set of regulations for companies with, say between four and twelve employees. And so it will go on with rights gradually being chipped away. Once you start having a looser set of regulations for companies with fewer than, say 50 employees, other companies will start to restructure themselves so that they are a collection of small employers who can apply the looser regulations. For example, people will suddenly find that they now work for a company called Tesco (Bournemouth Town Centre) Ltd.

There is a case to be made for having looser employment regulations for very small businesses. However, the real danger is what happens after that. Growing employers with three employees will soon start complaining that the overall cost of employing a fourth person is too great and that there should be another set of regulations for companies with, say between four and twelve employees. And so it will go on with rights gradually being chipped away. Once you start having a looser set of regulations for companies with fewer than, say 50 employees, other companies will start to restructure themselves so that they are a collection of small employers who can apply the looser regulations. For example, people will suddenly find that they now work for a company called Tesco (Bournemouth Town Centre) Ltd.

That was the first thing that sprang to mind for me as well. Big businesses will always look for loopholes.

Andrea Leadsom and Jeremy Corbyn as the two major party leaders. Jesus Christ!! The Lib Dem revival starts right here...

 

Corbyn is amazing and for the people. How can you not see he is an innocent chink in a rotten corrupt Oligarchal system?

 

I'm thinking of joining now too. Going to coffee mornings may expand my social life a bit. Only sane party there is now.

 

Lol keep voting for Christmas,Turkey, and love your plutocratic Oligarchy.

 

I will keep with Corbyn.

I see that word of the day toilet paper is paying off.

That was the first thing that sprang to mind for me as well. Big businesses will always look for loopholes.

 

I disagree, but it depends what you class as a big business. All of the top big global businesses (at least in the UK) are doing the opposite. They're empowering the workforce.

Andrea Leadsom has said that she would make a better PM than Theresa May because unlike her, she has children, therefore has a greater stake in the future of the country.

 

Theresa May recently spoke in an interview about her heartbreak at not being able to have children.

 

Leadsom's reputation of being the UK's answer to Donald Trump continues, although I have a feeling that this statement from her will actually increase her level of support, as vile as her comments were.

 

UPDATE: Andrea Leadsom has said that her comments have been taken out of context by The Times. In what way is unclear.

sadly not the case with some organisations I could name, local councils, supermarket chains, banks - I'm basing this entirely on what people I know who work for them tell me, and my own experience, though, not on media-reported releases from the over-staffed PR teams :P

 

For example, Local council staff are not allowed to bring the council into disrepute by telling the truth about it and the people elected to run it. It's in our contract and we get sacked. Happily I'm nearing retirement and I don't give a stuff, cos there's no-one left to do my job and I (tactfully) say what I like (on buzzjack).

 

Cough! Bournemouth? Cough! Council! Cough! Tory! Cough! Media! Cough! Spin! Cough! Less than factual!

I see that word of the day toilet paper is paying off.

:D!

Andrea Leadsom has said that she would make a better PM than Theresa May because unlike her, she has children, therefore has a greater stake in the future of the country.

 

Theresa May recently spoke in an interview about her heartbreak at not being able to have children.

 

Leadsom's reputation of being the UK's answer to Donald Trump continues, although I have a feeling that this statement from her will actually increase her level of support, as vile as her comments were.

 

UPDATE: Andrea Leadsom has said that her comments have been taken out of context by The Times. In what way is unclear.

The transcript has been published. It seems she's taking objection to her frankly worthless 'I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE A POINT ABOUT HOW HAVING KIDS MAKES YOU A BETTER PRIME MINISTER...*does so*' preamble not being reported verbatim.

 

God, imagine someone this clueless and inept at making a subtextual point being in charge of EU negotiations.

 

I disagree, but it depends what you class as a big business. All of the top big global businesses (at least in the UK) are doing the opposite. They're empowering the workforce.

Have you seen the tax affairs of some of these businesses? A lot of the businesses empowering their workforces are typically those who pay in excess of the minimum wage anyway because it's done to attract the best people. When you're trying to attract someone with 4 GSCEs and all their teeth, it's no so important and it's these companies who will lead the race to the bottom. Someone like Amazon or Sports Direct, with a ridiculous number of agency employees who have f*** all rights anyway, will start this and it'll spread like herpes at an orgy because the high street will have no choice but to react.

 

What we're also likely to see is an American approach to paying tipped staff.

Andrea Leadsom is the MP for my constituency :') May to trounce her please.

 

(Have come to the conclusion that Northamptonshire is just awful for Politics, see: Leave majority everywhere as well).