I expect top 50 for Britney (unless she continues to pick up on Spotify a bit more over the next two days) and around 20 - 30 for Katy.

I can't believe Drake is competing with classics such as Love is all around and Everything I do for most weeks at number 1!!!!!

I mean, his song is nothing special, it's just a rehash of some old song and barely deserved a top 10 placing let alone be number 1 for 14 weeks... Streaming has totally ruined the charts and made it stale and boring... I miss the days back in the 90s and early 00s when we used to have 5 or 6 entries in the top 10... Now we get the same songs in the top 10 for 6 months!!!! Awful really...

I can't believe Drake is competing with classics such as Love is all around and Everything I do for most weeks at number 1!!!!!

I mean, his song is nothing special, it's just a rehash of some old song and barely deserved a top 10 placing let alone be number 1 for 14 weeks... Streaming has totally ruined the charts and made it stale and boring... I miss the days back in the 90s and early 00s when we used to have 5 or 6 entries in the top 10... Now we get the same songs in the top 10 for 6 months!!!! Awful really...

 

Mind you, I'd love to know what the reaction would be if "Everything I Do" was #1 for 16 weeks now. Or if we had social media in 1991.

Mind you, I'd love to know what the reaction would be if "Everything I Do" was #1 for 16 weeks now. Or if we had social media in 1991.

 

R u really putting the 2 songs on the same level??? There's nothing to compare... Everything I do is a classic ballad/love song and is still airplayed to this day 25 years later, while One Dance is an autotuned mess that will be forgotten in a few months time just like any Drake, Kanye, JayZ song....

Edited July 18, 20169 yr by Dark Horse

Mind you, I'd love to know what the reaction would be if "Everything I Do" was #1 for 16 weeks now. Or if we had social media in 1991.

I remember the summer of 1991, I said to my maths teacher in October about how Bryan Adams had been number one before we broke up for summer holiday.

 

Radio DJ's of the time still have nightmares about playing it today it scarred some of them

:lol:

 

We are becoming used to a slow chart now but in 1991 we were still a few years from enter high and fall and the chart was starting to get faster.

 

I remember everyone laughing about Bryan Adams t-shirt & jeans look and people genuinely were intrigued by his long run, today most people don't even know what Drake is let alone that he has been number 1 for 14 weeks that is the sad part.

 

Where is the excitement that there was in 1991 and 1994 it just isn't there.

There is almost zero interest in Drakes run at the top from the media - If anything I think this will make top bids push for a change in chart rules, a single at #1 potentially breaking a record that is not in the sales Top 10. I know as sales die and streams become dominant we will have streaming #1s but it feels far to early and unbalanced for that yet.

There is almost zero interest in Drakes run at the top from the media - If anything I think this will make top bids push for a change in chart rules, a single at #1 potentially breaking a record that is not in the sales Top 10. I know as sales die and streams become dominant we will have streaming #1s but it feels far to early and unbalanced for that yet.

 

couldn't agree more.... the Sales chart is far more exciting and fast than the actual official charts, and sales are being overshadowed by streaming : nowadays we get songs reaching the sales top 5 without entering the official top 20, i think the sales/streaming ratio should be altered in favor of sales,

Even if sales are decreasing, they are still decent, since we are getting number 1's selling 35-40 k on average which is not that bad and is comparable to the 2006-2008 period , and i feel that paying for a track should count 1000 times more than streaming a song for free without any intention to pay for it...

Edited July 18, 20169 yr by Dark Horse

couldn't agree more.... the Sales chart is far more exciting and fast than the actual official charts, and sales are being overshadowed by streaming : nowadays we get songs reaching the sales top 5 without entering the official top 20, i think the sales/streaming ratio should be altered in favor of sales,

Even if sales are decreasing, they are still decent, since we are getting number 1's selling 35-40 k on average which is not that bad and is comparable to the 2006-2008 period , and i feel that paying for a track should count 1000 times more than streaming a song for free without any intention to pay for it...

Actually it's more like 25-30k.

 

Last week's sales #1, Jonas Blue, sold just 28.5k in download sales which is about average for a #1 these days.

 

The average is only going to go down from there anyway - the takeover of streaming is unstoppable.

R u really putting the 2 songs on the same level??? There's nothing to compare... Everything I do is a classic ballad/love song and is still airplayed to this day 25 years later, while One Dance is an autotuned mess that will be forgotten in a few months time just like any Drake, Kanye, JayZ song....

 

No I'm not. I'm comparing the fact they've both had really long runs at #1.

I remember the summer of 1991, I said to my maths teacher in October about how Bryan Adams had been number one before we broke up for summer holiday.

 

Radio DJ's of the time still have nightmares about playing it today it scarred some of them

:lol:

 

We are becoming used to a slow chart now but in 1991 we were still a few years from enter high and fall and the chart was starting to get faster.

 

I remember everyone laughing about Bryan Adams t-shirt & jeans look and people genuinely were intrigued by his long run, today most people don't even know what Drake is let alone that he has been number 1 for 14 weeks that is the sad part.

 

Where is the excitement that there was in 1991 and 1994 it just isn't there.

 

Well, it's fair to say that aside from the Christmas No. 1 race, the charts aren't part of the national conversation. Do we think that's down to streaming and people feeling artists don't get a fair shot?

today most people don't even know what Drake is

 

I think that's probably a slight exaggeration.

The singles chart is a joke. Really I'm old fashioned etc etc,, but why add streaming? Seriously. Songs on the chart for 40 - 50 weeks.

As many have said before, it's number one without being top 10 in sales? I know times have moved on etc etc, but c,mon.

Look at the vinyl revival, ok it's not huge but at least it's paid for, if people just keep listening to a song for basically free? How can it really be classed as a sale? At least the album charts reflects some reality.

Also radio stations are manipulating the charts far too long imo, I always said that if a new single from any artist comes out weather they are 16 or 80, they should receive some AirPlay. It's ageism of the highest order, yet the more mature artists will sell concert tickets far better than the cool hip youngsters. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of talented younger artists and bands out there, who deserve all they achieve, but it's all too one sided Imo.

The X factor used to be a prime example, ohh lets get all the cool kids to perform on the live shows, its target audience was misplaced, as it's a family show and mammy and daddy and big bro and sister also watched. Strictly come dancing at least mixed it up, some more established singers got to sing on it also, hence its viewing figures trashing X factors every week.

Look at Rick astley, the album has done well, and there's a half chance of a single denting the chart, but just imagine if radio one had the balls to play it? Yes I know radio two do, but who is to say if it was played to a younger audience that even a small percentage Might just like it? Or any more established singer.

Manipulation is ruling the music world, and we as the consumer are ignoring it

Guys just a reminder to use the pinned streaming thread to debate this topic! Us mods know it's something everyone feels strongly about it :heehee:

I remember the summer of 1991, I said to my maths teacher in October about how Bryan Adams had been number one before we broke up for summer holiday.

 

Radio DJ's of the time still have nightmares about playing it today it scarred some of them

:lol:

 

We are becoming used to a slow chart now but in 1991 we were still a few years from enter high and fall and the chart was starting to get faster.

 

I remember everyone laughing about Bryan Adams t-shirt & jeans look and people genuinely were intrigued by his long run, today most people don't even know what Drake is let alone that he has been number 1 for 14 weeks that is the sad part.

 

Where is the excitement that there was in 1991 and 1994 it just isn't there.

 

I fully agree with this,Bryan Adams run at number 1 was a huge talking point,charts aren't as powerful any morei

 

The singles chart is a joke. Really I'm old fashioned etc etc,, but why add streaming? Seriously. Songs on the chart for 40 - 50 weeks.

As many have said before, it's number one without being top 10 in sales? I know times have moved on etc etc, but c,mon.

Look at the vinyl revival, ok it's not huge but at least it's paid for, if people just keep listening to a song for basically free? How can it really be classed as a sale? At least the album charts reflects some reality.

Also radio stations are manipulating the charts far too long imo, I always said that if a new single from any artist comes out weather they are 16 or 80, they should receive some AirPlay. It's ageism of the highest order, yet the more mature artists will sell concert tickets far better than the cool hip youngsters. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of talented younger artists and bands out there, who deserve all they achieve, but it's all too one sided Imo.

The X factor used to be a prime example, ohh lets get all the cool kids to perform on the live shows, its target audience was misplaced, as it's a family show and mammy and daddy and big bro and sister also watched. Strictly come dancing at least mixed it up, some more established singers got to sing on it also, hence its viewing figures trashing X factors every week.

Look at Rick astley, the album has done well, and there's a half chance of a single denting the chart, but just imagine if radio one had the balls to play it? Yes I know radio two do, but who is to say if it was played to a younger audience that even a small percentage Might just like it? Or any more established singer.

Manipulation is ruling the music world, and we as the consumer are ignoring it

1. The singles chart WOULD be a joke if it didn't include streaming, it has to keep up with the times, and if it weren't there we'd have low-selling #1s on a consistent basis (but I guess if it keeps the "chart traditionalists" happy then all is fine with the world~)

 

2. Do X Factor bringing on Michael Bublé (someone that appeals to those older viewers) most years not count? :')

 

also- "AirPlay" Bré agog :''''')

 

3. It's nothing to do with Radio 1 'having the balls', they're catering to a specific age demographic, and Rick Astley simply doesn't fit in with that

 

-x-

 

anyhow back on topic- Michael Kiwanuka to slay the album chart :cheer:

 

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Official Singles/Albums Chart Update Top 100

Source: OCC

Missing Data:

 

I will edit this as and when we have info! R1 chart update at 5:30, full top 100s from 5:45.

 

Top 100 Singles

 

1 Drake feat. Wizkid & Kyla - One Dance 20,435

2 Jonas Blue feat. JP Cooper - Perfect Stangers 20,219

3 Calum Scott - Dancing On My Own 20,112

4 The Chainsmokers feat. Daya - Don't Let Me Down 19,102

5 Clean Bandit feat. Louisa Johnson - Tears 17,453

 

6-10

9 Shawn Mendes - Treat You Better

 

11-20

12 5 Seconds of Summer - Girls Talk Boys *

13 Katy Perry - Rise *

20 MØ - Final Song

 

21-30

22 Britney Spears feat. G-Eazy - Make Me... *

29 Christine and the Queens - Tilted

 

31-40

36 Snakehips feat. ZAYN - Cruel *

40 MK & Becky Hill - Piece of Me ^

 

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Top 100 Albums

 

1 Michael Kiwanuka - Love & Hate 6,126 *

2 Adele - 25 4,813

3 Christine and the Queens - Chaleur Humaine 4,558

4 Biffy Clyro - Ellipsis 4,056

5 Coldplay - A Head Full of Dreams 3,902

 

6-10

8 Good Charlotte - Youth Authority *

10 Bob Marley and the Wailers - Legend

 

11-20

14 Jeff Beck - Loud Hailer *

17 James Bay - Chaos and the Calm

 

21-30

 

 

31-40

31 Gregory Porter - Liquid Spirit ^

34 ABBA - Gold ^

33 Bright Light Bright Light - Choreography *

36 Steven Tyler - We're All Somebody From Somewhere *

38 Queen - Greatest Hits ^

 

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'The chart' just isn't a talking point any more as big as it used to be. And to be fair... it's only a marker of what other people are buying or consuming. Given that society has shifted in many other ways towards personal choice and caring about what you yourself, rather than other people, buy, consume and enjoy, i's not actually that surprising that less people care about it. Especially younger people who've grown up always with that backdrop.

1. The singles chart WOULD be a joke if it didn't include streaming, it has to keep up with the times, and if it weren't there we'd have low-selling #1s on a consistent basis (but I guess if it keeps the "chart traditionalists" happy then all is fine with the world~)

 

2. Do X Factor bringing on Michael Bublé (someone that appeals to those older viewers) most years not count? :')

 

also- "AirPlay" Bré agog :''''')

 

3. It's nothing to do with Radio 1 'having the balls', they're catering to a specific age demographic, and Rick Astley simply doesn't fit in with that

 

-x-

 

anyhow back on topic- Michael Kiwanuka to slay the album chart :cheer:

 

And I respect your opinion, but a chart should be paid for sales, end of.

 

 

 

It shouldn't though?? There's no reflection of a songs popularity in sales - if anything streaming should have always been included. The current chart represents the most popular music around at the moment, I don't see why it's a bad thing?

OMG!! Can Jonas Blue do it this week? Drake is only a few sales ahead and the 59p effect will wear off soon