Lady Gaga is flopping absolutely everywhere (I wouldnt even call it flopping its worse) it has fell to number 132 on France I tunes. It is out of the top 40 in a lot of markets. I know its a dud lead single but I didnt expect to be this bad. Its also doing crap on Spotify everywhere. This is definately one of the worst performing lead singles by a 'major' pop singer in a long time. And the album is coming out in 5 weeks...it is a horrificaly bad start to an album campaign. There seems to be 0 interst at all. She was even doing fairly average when Applause was released but this is tanking. I expected a huge comeback al a Justin Bieber, she used to be massive

Edited September 18, 20168 yr by Zeebre12

Lady Gaga is flopping absolutely everywhere (I wouldnt even call it flopping its worse) it has fell to number 132 on France I tunes. It is out of the top 40 in a lot of markets. I know its a dud lead single but I didnt expect to be this bad. Its also doing crap on Spotify everywhere. This is definately one of the worst performing lead singles by a 'major' pop singer in a long time. And the album is coming out in 5 weeks...it is a horrificaly bad start to an album campaign. There seems to be 0 interst at all. She was even doing fairly average when Applause was released but this is tanking. I expected a huge comeback al a Justin Bieber, she used to be massive

A lot of big female pop stars are having a difficult time at the moment, unfortunately. Make Me by Britney and Rise by Katy Perry should've both been smash hits, especially the former. I'd like to say that it's just streaming that's pulling them down, but it's not. No one is even buying their music on iTunes which is quite weird. But anyway, is it seen as 'uncool' to like Lady Gaga nowadays? :unsure:

Those numbers relate to the performance against the biggest selling single - she has actually gained on the Chainsmokers (up from selling 52% of “Closer” to 53%)

 

Before 0.4424 /0.8503 = 0.52

After 0.4657 /0.8754 = 0.53

Ah, makes sense now! Thanks ^_^

Lady Gaga is flopping absolutely everywhere (I wouldnt even call it flopping its worse) it has fell to number 132 on France I tunes. It is out of the top 40 in a lot of markets. I know its a dud lead single but I didnt expect to be this bad. Its also doing crap on Spotify everywhere. This is definately one of the worst performing lead singles by a 'major' pop singer in a long time. And the album is coming out in 5 weeks...it is a horrificaly bad start to an album campaign. There seems to be 0 interst at all. She was even doing fairly average when Applause was released but this is tanking. I expected a huge comeback al a Justin Bieber, she used to be massive

it is actually quite shocking to see tbh. i'm sure we all didn't expect number ones everywhere especially after artpop but for it to be doing this badly is unbelievable. she definitely had a bit of hype from all the critically acclaimed vocal performances she's given recently so i would have thought that would have gotten the public back on board with her but it's really not translated at all.

A lot of big female pop stars are having a difficult time at the moment, unfortunately. Make Me by Britney and Rise by Katy Perry should've both been smash hits, especially the former. I'd like to say that it's just streaming that's pulling them down, but it's not. No one is even buying their music on iTunes which is quite weird. But anyway, is it seen as 'uncool' to like Lady Gaga nowadays? :unsure:

 

It does seem coincidental that they're all flopping simultaneously but then on the other hand they've all done far better than Make Me, Rise and Perfect Illusion in the past imo. That said its clear to see (sadly) that Britney and Gaga's imperial phases are long behind them and even Katy's star has faded a lot recently, I question if she'll ever have another top three hit.

James Arthur's success has seemed to stir interest in his back catalogue - Impossible is #117 and his album is back in the iTunes Top 150, big boosts for his music on Spotify too.

A lot of big female pop stars are having a difficult time at the moment, unfortunately. Make Me by Britney and Rise by Katy Perry should've both been smash hits, especially the former. I'd like to say that it's just streaming that's pulling them down, but it's not. No one is even buying their music on iTunes which is quite weird. But anyway, is it seen as 'uncool' to like Lady Gaga nowadays? :unsure:

 

Pretty sure it's always been uncool to like Lady Gaga.

 

I think it's just because her song sounds so out of place in the current market. It's all about trap, EDM & tropical house nowadays and similar to how all the pop artists jumped on the dubstep bandwagon a few years ago they're all doing the same now. Gaga didn't & unfortunately it backfired which is a shame as I quite like the song.

It does seem coincidental that they're all flopping simultaneously but then on the other hand they've all done far better than Make Me, Rise and Perfect Illusion in the past imo. That said its clear to see (sadly) that Britney and Gaga's imperial phases are long behind them and even Katy's star has faded a lot recently, I question if she'll ever have another top three hit.

You could say that it's down to their output, but we haven't had a female number one since 2015 which says a lot. With the exception of Rihanna and Adele, I think most of the worlds biggest female stars will struggle to get a top 10 single now which is sad.

Edited September 18, 20168 yr by cqmerqn

James Arthur's success has seemed to stir interest in his back catalogue - Impossible is #117 and his album is back in the iTunes Top 150, big boosts for his music on Spotify too.

Impossible was played on The XFactor last night.

I don't think Katy will struggle actually, I think the issue with Rise was simply the song, I like it but it's one of her weakest for sure, plus the Apple exclusive thing led to terrible Spotify streams when it eventually got added :( I think if she puts out a huge pop song next, she'll have no trouble getting a big hit!

 

I must admit, this is how I expected Gaga to do really - it's a love/hate song seemingly, and her star has faded a lot the past few years, that was especially clear last era. It's doing *okay* for now and it's waaaaay too early to write it off but it's not doing excellently. The issue with Britney is radio, they see her as past it when she's making incredibly current and relevant music, it's a shame.

Pretty sure it's always been uncool to like Lady Gaga.

 

I wouldn't say so - for a time in late 2009 she was critically acclaimed, right around the time of “Bad Romance”.

 

She seems to have gone massively off the boil though, I really enjoyed some of the singles from the Fame Monster EP but since then it has been a rapid and pretty terminal decline in quality IMO.

I wouldn't say so - for a time in late 2009 she was critically acclaimed, right around the time of “Bad Romance”.

 

She was definitely running the industry back in 2009 but I don't think she has ever been a "cool" artist, at least not for guys.

I don't think Katy will struggle actually, I think the issue with Rise was simply the song, I like it but it's one of her weakest for sure, plus the Apple exclusive thing led to terrible Spotify streams when it eventually got added :( I think if she puts out a huge pop song next, she'll have no trouble getting a big hit!

Hmm, well I think Katy would need to have a feature on the song if she wanted a hit but that's subjective, I guess.

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Bridget Jones soundtrack songs:

06. Ellie Goulding- Still Falling For You

38. Years & Years - Meteorite (I'm so surprised this hasn't gained!)

118. Jess Glynn - Hold My Hand

133. Knox Brown & Gallant - Reignite

149. Lily Allen - F**k You

Edited September 18, 20168 yr by cqmerqn

But the thing with Britney is she has been in the business since 1999 and hasnt been popular in the last few years which is understandable as she is not regarded in the same league as Katy Perry, Rihanna, Pink, Ariana nowadays, and she doesnt really seem to care about success anymore or care anymore. Also radio refuse to play her as they think she is past it, if she released Toxic now it would flop. And that Katy Perry song was just a promotional song for NBC Olympics in the US, nota lead single with little promotion so it didnt really matter if it did bad like Pinks song for the film. If Rise was a lead single it would be a different story.

Edited September 18, 20168 yr by Zeebre12

I'd never have told people at school that I liked Lady Gaga personally, so I have to agree with Dobbo. She's never exactly been "cool" in the same way as Drake, Rihanna or Justin Bieber, but she sold a lot of records..

Closer getting closer and closer to James Arthur again, I hope he clings on :/

Weren't the likes of NME and Kerrang praising Gaga, though (who's core audience are predominantly males)? Especially coz I'd guess she was a bit more "dark" and daring with her pop than majority of others. So I'd argue she was cool to like for guys. Right up to about 'Born This Way', which as anthemic as it was for her gay fans, it kinda isolated "the straights" and from then on... That's just how I see it personally. She catered specifically to her gay fans, pretty early on in her career and I think, it's kind of had a knock on effect as a whole.

 

(I hope this makes sense :lol:)

well I loved the 'Born This Way' era and I'm not even gay :lol: I see where you're coming from though. She could have easily just made some widely accessible hits but she chose to cater to her core fanbase more than the general public.

I'd never have told people at school that I liked Lady Gaga personally, so I have to agree with Dobbo. She's never exactly been "cool" in the same way as Drake, Rihanna or Justin Bieber, but she sold a lot of records..

Justin is seen as cool now? :unsure: Even with his recent success I still feel uncomfortable telling people that I love Justin

She said in an interview recently that it was a joint agreement between her and her management to have PI as the lead single, what were they thinking? The lead single is meant to be the most GP friendly, accessible, commercial song on the album. This was a bad move, if this is the best they can offer.If the is the most commercial song on the album, they may scrap it. They shouldnt have released the release date so they could delay it w