April 23, 20178 yr And Le Pen's result isn't even that great considering she got 18% in 2012. Here's hoping France flushes the bitch in May. Should Macron win, which is pretty much guaranteed at this stage, it will be interesting to see how he handles the legislatives in June seeing as EM aren't running any candidates?
April 23, 20178 yr Should Macron win, which is pretty much guaranteed at this stage, it will be interesting to see how he handles the legislatives in June seeing as EM aren't running any candidates? EM are running candidates for the legislatives everywhere as far as I know.
April 23, 20178 yr EM are running candidates for the legislatives everywhere as far as I know. Oh OK! :o Had no idea as I hadn't seen them in any opinion polls. I'm curious to see how well they perform then!
April 23, 20178 yr Oh OK! :o Had no idea as I hadn't seen them in any opinion polls. I'm curious to see how well they perform then! They did a large campaign looking for EM! candidates everywhere in France. But yes, it will be harder for these candidates to win as they're mostly new faces. Oh well, I just don't want Le Pen to win next week :cry:
April 23, 20178 yr So now we know the answer to this question - how to you get the left-wing to become vigorous cheerleaders to an ex-investment banker? Le Pen's going to lose by the looks of it, but stranger things have happened.
April 24, 20178 yr PS only getting 6%. They're well and truly finished now, surely?! They're still going to be relevant because Macron needs a mixture of the two traditional parties to form a government. Who he leans towards will be what defines his presidency, especially how he's posited himself as a centrist and shied away from focussing too much on any specifics of his programme. (I'm treating the second round as a foregone conclusion, yeah) Edited April 24, 20178 yr by Harve
April 24, 20178 yr Well, this is unexpected. Marine Le Pen is stepping aside as leader of the National Front, ahead of her run-off with Marcon.
April 24, 20178 yr Don't like either of these candidates - Macron symbolises the metropolitan liberal globalised elite who look down their champagne glasses at the average person!
April 24, 20178 yr Well, this is unexpected. Marine Le Pen is stepping aside as leader of the National Front, ahead of her run-off with Marcon. I'm so confused :drama:
April 24, 20178 yr Front National being very unlikely to get in is a massive relief obviously but the fact they've been a serious contender in this election is scary :mellow:
April 24, 20178 yr I can only assume that Le Pen thinks people will somehow forget she's a fascist if she's no longer leader of the FN.
April 24, 20178 yr I can only assume that Le Pen thinks people will somehow forget she's a fascist if she's no longer leader of the FN. I've said it before and I'll say it again - the electorate as legion has an incredibly short memory. It would not surprise me if this is the reason - it would give people the "fake because" reason to support her.
April 24, 20178 yr Don't like either of these candidates - Macron symbolises the metropolitan liberal globalised elite who look down their champagne glasses at the average person! Prosecco dear, champagne's too gauche.
April 25, 20178 yr They're completely incomparable on public opinion. Clinton had net negative opinion poll ratings for most of the year leading up to the election. Macron has the most positive net approval ratings of all the candidates and consistently polls as the candidate the French believe most embodies change. I doubt it'll last once he wins and has to cohabit with the Republicaines in the Assembly, but beyond ideology he doesn't resemble Hillary at all.
April 25, 20178 yr In terms of public opinion, it reminds me of Clinton v Trump all over again... It really doesn't. Le Pen is so much further behind. We're talking about 98% Macron vs. 2% Le Pen chance rather than 70% Clinton vs. 30% Trump. Polls were also incredibly accurate for the first round, with no real outliers.
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