beatport scrapped their streaming service earlier this year~

We have a discussion thread for these types of questions. Merged. :magic:

Soundcloud and beatport should be included as they are though, it consists of people listening to tracks, the OCC could do the same rules with Soundcloud and Bratport listens to spotify streams (10 listens per person per day etc)

But they don't give out royalties for people hearing the songs so it's not the same as Spotify etc....

I think the typical amounts of streams from those services you mention pale into comparison with Apple and Spotify, and so their inclusion wouldn't really make much of a difference at all.

youtube also dont pay royalties properly: "under discussion"

 

They argue it's a free advert, music owners argue they get nothing from it.

 

Plus, when the song is incidental to the video it can get artificial exposure

YouTube do pay royalties, although their royalty rate is significantly less than "proper" streaming services, hence the artists complaining.

 

http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visu...rates-compared/

 

artist revenue per play (in US dollars)

0.0073 Google Play

0.0070 TIDAL

0.0030 Beats

0.0019 Rhapsody

0.0013 Apple Music

0.0011 Spotify

0.0010 Deezer

0.0003 YouTube

Does anyone know how to view the YouTube streaming charts? I seen someone say that all I want for Christmas is you is #7 in the UK youtube streaming chart but don't know how to see it for myself

Does anyone know how to view the YouTube streaming charts? I seen someone say that all I want for Christmas is you is #7 in the UK youtube streaming chart but don't know how to see it for myself

The one on Kworb seems to be accurate: http://kworb.net/youtube/insights/uk.html

 

so, if I read the table right, you need a thousand plays to make a dollar on spotify? (equivalent of a digital sale)

so, if I read the table right, you need a thousand plays to make a dollar on spotify? (equivalent of a digital sale)

100 streams = 1 play!

so, if I read the table right, you need a thousand plays to make a dollar on spotify? (equivalent of a digital sale)

approximately yes

 

so, if I read the table right, you need a thousand plays to make a dollar on spotify? (equivalent of a digital sale)

no. the table relates to artist revenue per play. one digital sale gives the artist about $0.23 ($0.69 if the artist is unsigned)

You may already know this but Mint Royale just tweeted that according to the OCC, the streams:sales ratio will change to 150:1 from January 2017.

I thought this was very interesting, although it was stuff a lot of us would know already.

 

Yeh it is very interesting - first time I've heard Martin Talbot mentioning the new streaming ratio!

thread moved to the streaming discussion thread.

I think a campaign should be started to get Status Quo track Rollin Home to number 1 under the hash tag #rickrollin like the rick Astley thing.

Not sure where to ask this but when you download an album from Apple Music to your phone is that only counted as one listen chart wise or does it count everything you listen?

Not sure where to ask this but when you download an album from Apple Music to your phone is that only counted as one listen chart wise or does it count everything you listen?

It counts as a stream for each track every time you listen!

Even if I have downloaded it to my iPhone?

 

A also I tend to listen to full albums on the way to work in the bus so would that be represented as an album sale for the OCC album chart? (Sorry for all the questions)