June 26, 20178 yr Waiting for an artist like Ed or Justin to release an album called Featured where they are the Featured artist on each song so they can all still chart.
June 26, 20178 yr I apologize if this has been asked, but do the 3 charting songs have to be from a single album, specifically the artist's current release? I'm thinking of a situation where an artist passes away and many old singles re-chart, from various album releases. Or an artist could release 2 5-6 song EPs simultaneously (or within a week or two of each other) to skirt the rule. Edited June 26, 20178 yr by AngelaKD
June 26, 20178 yr I apologize if this has been asked, but do the 3 charting songs have to be from a single album, specifically the artist's current release? I'm thinking of a situation where an artist passes away and many old singles re-chart, from various album releases. Or an artist could release 2 5-6 song EPs simultaneously (or within a week or two of each other) to skirt the rule.The wording suggests that only 3 songs per artist are eligible (excluding features), and it doesn't matter whether they are from the same album. Indeed, this means "death boosts" will have less of an effect. Going back to David Bowie week, 'Heroes', 'Life On Mars' and 'Starman' would have all re-entered the top 20 as they did officially, but all his others wouldn't have (re)-entered the chart. As for Martyn's point, I just hope no popular artist is that desperate.
June 26, 20178 yr Author Tbf, I think instances like Ariana's will be fine, coz she re-released it in 2017 with an individual release (she released a "Tribute to Manchester" version, seperately) so I imagine it'll be classed as a new song? No, the chart didn't recognise it as a re-release. It inherited the chart history of the original release. But like I say I expect there will be a rule that allows songs to have its cap removed if it increases by a certain amount or for a number of consecutive weeks anyway.
June 26, 20178 yr Seems like some really interesting rule changes, I'm looking forward to seeing the 'speeding up decline' one implemented especially, chart as promotional tool and breaking new artists could be back.
June 26, 20178 yr I'm not certain this will help tons of songs by new artists into the top 40, maybe just save higher profile acts from more pronounced flops! For example, much of the list laid out earlier that would benefit is full of currently underperforming singles from well known acts that will get a bit of a leg up, as opposed to songs by new artists. Though I'm sure the likes of Post Malone and Lil Uzi Vert will be grateful for the additional exposure! 41 Lil Uzi Vert 44 Hailee Steinfeld 45 Kygo & Ellie Goulding 46 Jax Jones & Demi Lovato 48 Martin Garrix & Troye Sivan 49 Olly Murs & Louisa Johnson 50 Katy Perry & Nicki Minaj 51 Post Malone & Quavo Streaming services need to play their part in giving new artists a leg up too really, by helping them onto some of the bigger curated playlists. It does seem to be that if you're not a well established star then you really struggle to get much of a look in at all these days.
June 26, 20178 yr Speaking of Christmas entries, if they continue to have 76-35-12-8-6-5-OUT chart runs then surely they'll never have the 3 week decline and not recieve a cap?
June 26, 20178 yr I've done some chart re-workings for certain weeks: Stormzy album week Ed Sheeran album week Drake album week Kendrick album week
June 26, 20178 yr Author I'm not certain this will help tons of songs by new artists into the top 40, maybe just save higher profile acts from more pronounced flops! For example, much of the list laid out earlier that would benefit is full of currently underperforming singles from well known acts that will get a bit of a leg up, as opposed to songs by new artists. Though I'm sure the likes of Post Malone and Lil Uzi Vert will be grateful for the additional exposure! 41 Lil Uzi Vert 44 Hailee Steinfeld 45 Kygo & Ellie Goulding 46 Jax Jones & Demi Lovato 48 Martin Garrix & Troye Sivan 49 Olly Murs & Louisa Johnson 50 Katy Perry & Nicki Minaj 51 Post Malone & Quavo Streaming services need to play their part in giving new artists a leg up too really, by helping them onto some of the bigger curated playlists. It does seem to be that if you're not a well established star then you really struggle to get much of a look in at all these days. I agree. Until the streaming services mix up their playlists a bit we're not going to see a huge difference.
June 26, 20178 yr A step in the right direction, and im amused at the shoe being on the other foot re negative comments about the move... Its a singleschart measuring overall popularity of singles NOT a "most replayed album track" list by large groups of fans of big names. Thats an album chart. The Sheeran chart invasion was a farce. Almost all of the tracks on the albums, not including singles, remain obscure to most of the population. The singles are widely known to non fans who may or may not like them - but they at least know them. Reducing ratios shouldbe across the board now streaming is so much more widespread relative to sales numbers. This is better than nothing though as it will at least give thechart a smidgen of interest to the non streamers currentmusic fans who are not served by a chart that measures pretty much what teens overplay mixed with passive listening of charts collated from the former. Thats not any more accurately showing what all music fans are excited by - generally new music - than a sales-only chart is, arguably, now that older people buy music and younger people hire it. Older fans get one sale week one at a ratio of 10% of "sales" renters get a chart impact ongoing. Its an attempt to fix a problem that wont work in any significant way but at least the chart will be slightly less tedious now and they might get marginally more friendly to other genres of music, so yay :cheer:
June 26, 20178 yr Surely they could just separate out singles vs album tracks? Singles from albums (that go to radio etc) will have their streams and sales counted towards the singles chart. Album tracks on the other hand would have their streams counted towards the album chart, but be allowed to chart if they gather enough downloads? These new rules will make the chart less stale and give smaller artists the chance to get top 40/20 hits though, so I'm all for it. Just seems a bit of a weird way to do it.
June 26, 20178 yr They're doing the exact opposite to 'reflecting consumption' by pick and choosing songs to fall out faster to 'vary' up the chart, I get that we don't want songs clogging up th charts but by altering sales figures they're not reflecting the actual popularity of songs? Kinda defeating the point of the chart in the first place, they may as well just make it up? Agree 100%. This is like a fanfiction of the official chart top 40. Nothing 'official' about it anymore, it's twisting all of the rules and all of the stats to create the kind of chart they want, which will essentially be just an advertisement for new music. Stupid if you ask me. What can chart positions possibly mean any more when they're not reflective of either sales OR consumption, but some half-baked mishmash of the two that lets both sides down?
June 26, 20178 yr I'm mixed on this, it could work. So, if a big artist sadly dies, does that mean only 3 of the biggest selling will chart or will it just be harder for other tracks to chart? Edited June 26, 20178 yr by M1010D
June 26, 20178 yr Waiting for an artist like Ed or Justin to release an album called Featured where they are the Featured artist on each song so they can all still chart. I was going to make the same suggestion. We'd get The Silence feat. Ed Sheeran The Invisible Man feat Ed Sheeran Nobody feat Ed Sheeran The Invisible Woman feat Ed Sheeran The Invisible Band feat Ed Sheeran No-one feat Ed Sheeran ... :lol:
June 26, 20178 yr I've done some chart re-workings for certain weeks: Stormzy album week This is the one that hurts the most :cry: 38 41 02 Lana Del Rey ~ Love
June 26, 20178 yr Just to make sure, does it mean by 'decrease' a decline in sales or chart position?
June 26, 20178 yr I was going to make the same suggestion. We'd get The Silence feat. Ed SheeranWell at least it would be good exposure for The Silence, who have 108 monthly listeners on Spotify at the moment, if it were to happen. :lol:
June 26, 20178 yr Just to make sure, does it mean by 'decrease' a decline in sales or chart position? That question remains unanswered at the moment.
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