why would George be #1? He's far behind Jess on Spotify and on iTunes.

Yeah, but if they 59p George then it could have a huge boost.

 

If Jess does manage #1 though, this will be her 2nd ‘non-#1’ this year.

I don't think any boost it has will be enough especially with Jess' streaming advantage.

Yeah, but if they 59p George then it could have a huge boost.

 

If Jess does manage #1 though, this will be her 2nd ‘non-#1’ this year.

 

At least it would be better and more memorable than some actual number 1s :w00t:

How is it much different from a few years ago when people trying to write a song with commercial radio airplay and iTunes downloads in mind. There will always be artists/songwriters/producers trying to jump on the latest chart trend in an attempt to score a big chart hit.

 

Clearly people who like alternative music exist but not as many as those who listen to Top 40 hits, not to mention many alternative fans buy albums rather than pay for a Spotify subscription (alternative acts are still well represented in the album chart though usually they have silly chart runs like 10-OUT from them not being that accessible to those outside their small dedicated fanbase).

 

As long as Spotify exists, their playlists will have some impact on the chart. If the OCC could somehow take away streams from people listening to a popular playlist, that wouldn't be reflective of the many people who use those playlists to find new music. That would defeat the purpose of making a chart accurate of everyone's general listening habits.

You have a point about commercial airplay but the problem is there were plenty of songs on commercial airplay and plenty of manufactured acts from the late 90s/early 2000s that were not successful because people didn't buy them. Another difference now is that rather than this is only being a small part of chart music this has become a normality for even a lot of songwriters who don't have a record deal to the point that people are being encouraged not to be creative! Obviously there are plenty of artists that are but what it's sad that an alternative act can't even get into the top 75 now because people are still streaming songs from 2 years ago! It's bad timing as well now that vinyl singles are on the up! Noel Gallagher and Morrissey would have had top 20 hits recently if it was still a sales chart! Christine & The Queens is doing well on iTunes but I can't imagine her fanbase streaming which just shows unbalanced it has become.

 

I'm sure I'm not alone in finding that most of my Spotify recommendations are usually 95% rubbish! When I'm discovering new music I don't just want something that sounds like a pub version of what I already listen to, we are basically letting the 'lazy' way take over and not the people that love music and won't just listen to Hot Hits UK aren't being represented enough. Also surely the people who just listen to the same 10 songs on a playlist would be better off paying £10 once for them rather than £10 a month :lol:

I don't think any boost it has will be enough especially with Jess' streaming advantage.

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We could have an all-female solo top 3 (Jess, Anne-Marie and Ariana). When was the last time we had a solo-female top 3?

You have a point about commercial airplay but the problem is there were plenty of songs on commercial airplay and plenty of manufactured acts from the late 90s/early 2000s that were not successful because people didn't buy them. Another difference now is that rather than this is only being a small part of chart music this has become a normality for even a lot of songwriters who don't have a record deal to the point that people are being encouraged not to be creative! Obviously there are plenty of artists that are but what it's sad that an alternative act can't even get into the top 75 now because people are still streaming songs from 2 years ago! It's bad timing as well now that vinyl singles are on the up! Noel Gallagher and Morrissey would have had top 20 hits recently if it was still a sales chart! Christine & The Queens is doing well on iTunes but I can't imagine her fanbase streaming which just shows unbalanced it has become.

 

I'm sure I'm not alone in finding that most of my Spotify recommendations are usually 95% rubbish! When I'm discovering new music I don't just want something that sounds like a pub version of what I already listen to, we are basically letting the 'lazy' way take over and not the people that love music and won't just listen to Hot Hits UK aren't being represented enough. Also surely the people who just listen to the same 10 songs on a playlist would be better off paying £10 once for them rather than £10 a month :lol:

Likewise, there are plenty of songs being shoved onto Hot Hits UK which aren't being streamed a whole lot. Just look at how they tried to make Matt Terry 'Sucker For You' a big hit with months on the playlist at a high position but the song missed the Spotify and official top 40 because people generally weren't that into it.

 

If it was still a sales chart it would be rather irrelevant now. The acts you mentioned only got top 20 sales chart hits because it takes so little amount of sales to get there now, and they have a reasonably sized dedicated fanbase.

 

'Tilted' was a top 40 (#36) Spotify hit for Christine following good playlist support so 'Girlfriend' could do similarly if they gave it the push. It has the potential, and I would certainly love it to do well because it's a great song.

 

I find that Spotify's 'release radar' has a few good tunes in it per week, but their 'discover weekly' feature is usually crap. You'd have to follow your fave artists and use Spotify a lot to get anything out of it though.

 

I'm sure a lot of people 'love music' and mostly listen to Hot Hits. Not everyone who loves music is into alternative/underground/non-chart music.

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We could have an all-female solo top 3 (Jess, Anne-Marie and Ariana). When was the last time we had a solo-female top 3?

 

I believe the last all-female top 3 was All About That Bass, Shake It Off & Bang Bang back in 2014. As for all solo no idea.

I believe the last all-female top 3 was All About That Bass, Shake It Off & Bang Bang back in 2014. As for all solo no idea.

I went to look in the week-by-week threads for the answer and actually, it's just last year! 'Look What You Made Me Do', 'New Rules' and 'What About Us' were the top 3 for 2 weeks in a row.

As yes forgot P!nk popped up with an unexpected top 3.

However, if I haven't overlooked anything, I think the last time before that was... 'Only Girl (In The World)', 'Promise This' and 'Happiness' in November 2010. :blink:

 

If 'Price Tag' hadn't featured B.o.B, that would've been 4 weeks there while 'Someone Like You' was #1, 'Price Tag' was #2, and 'Born This Way' and 'S&M' were #3.

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But playlists are surely a valid way of discovering music? There's more choice involved than listening on the radio for example. If people don't like, they can switch it off and move onto a new song. Besides, there have always been ways that record labels can manipulate the chart. If these playlists were removed, a user-created playlist would probably blow up instead. People are lazy, it's not Spotify's fault, they're just exploiting the laziness with some payola from record labels. Can't really blame them.

 

Yeah, but what's the likelihood of most people doing that within 30 seconds? I know I've accidentally 'streamed' songs I've hated in the past due to being distracted with other things and not noticing they're playing in time.

 

I just think that a "sale" should be only if they've streamed the full song. I don't get this 30 second thing at all.

I think that the music industry should release tracks weeks in advance to radio of official release along with the music video and should be discounted on digital sales services and should be added instantly to the top of playlists on streaming services, that way we can have at least 25 number ones, 200+/- top 10s and 1000 entries to the overall top 100 each year.

Edited June 7, 20187 yr by RockafellerSkank

I think that the music industry should release tracks weeks in advance to radio of official release along with the music video and should be discounted on digital sales services and should be added instantly to the top of playlists on streaming services, that way we can have at least 25 number ones, 200+/- top 10s and 1000 entries to the overall top 100 each year.

 

But then people would never stop complaining about how for example Nice For What was put at the top of a playlist instead of One Kiss despite being released at the same time :P No matter how chances in the music industry a minority of people will never be content with how the system works

 

 

But then people would never stop complaining about how for example Nice For What was put at the top of a playlist instead of One Kiss despite being released at the same time :P No matter how chances in the music industry a minority of people will never be content with how the system works

 

Oh good lord, I was being sarcastic

Surprised more haven't gone for Clean Bandit (may be the incorrect feature in the vote has put people off), they have now overtaken Jess Glynne on streaming although I think it will be close next week.

Clean Bandit and Jess Glynne are very close on Spotify but Jess is quite a way ahead on iTunes, so I think her good download sales will give her the #1.

 

Of course none of this will matter if Calvin & Dua somehow avoid ACR this week though.

Clean Bandit and Jess Glynne are very close on Spotify but Jess is quite a way ahead on iTunes, so I think her good download sales will give her the #1.

Unless Clean Demi reduces to 59p next week - both Jess Glynne and Clean Demi will also have the advantage of Summertime Ball appearances.

 

I just think that a "sale" should be only if they've streamed the full song. I don't get this 30 second thing at all.

 

90 percent would be more fair I have a habit of jumping to the next song if it has 10 or less seconds on it and I know I'm probably not the only one :P