Yeah. I'm really liking this a lot. I actually prefer it much more to Sweden (and I dont particularly dislike that one). I feel like Michael is a better vocalist too. There's something about it's simplicity with this imo. <3

I wonder if we’re heading for a nil point with this - Europe are probably as sick of Brexit as we are :lol:

Very unlikely considering the new system of breaking up the jury and public votes, though I suspect we'll still get a few points from the public anyhow provided he doesn't mess up big time on the night.

I wonder if we’re heading for a nil point with this - Europe are probably as sick of Brexit as we are :lol:

 

I really don't understand that argument. Year after year after year we come up with another reason why we will do badly (Iraq War, the fact everyone sings in English now, Brexit, Europe hates us etc etc) apart from the blindingly obvious reason - we send shit. Is it just because we don't like admitting we are bad at something?

 

Take Russia for example. The whole world is very well aware of their appalling human rights record, their horrific leader, annexing Crimea, rigging elections etc. They were boo'd shit in 2014 as a result of the hate - yet still pulled in votes. The following year they nearly won. And it's simply not a case that their votes just comes from Belarus, Azerbaijan, Georgia.......

 

So, even if we were hated more than Russia (which is super unlikely), then that wouldn't necessarily mean we wouldn't get points.

 

Portugal didn't ever win until recently and hardly had a glittering past in Eurovision. As soon as they send something half decent - they win. I bet they didn't throw their toys out of the pram year after year when they continued to perform badly. In fact, if memory serves me well, did they not almost poke fun at themselves in a sketch for sending poor entries in 2018?

 

If we were despised as much as we say - we wouldn't have done half decent in 2009 and 2011. Or did we get a temporary reprieve those years from our British-hating European neighbours?

 

Here's the music video, looks like the BBC have gone to a bit more effort with it than the past few years!

 

I really don't understand that argument. Year after year after year we come up with another reason why we will do badly (Iraq War, the fact everyone sings in English now, Brexit, Europe hates us etc etc) apart from the blindingly obvious reason - we send shit. Is it just because we don't like admitting we are bad at something?

 

Take Russia for example. The whole world is very well aware of their appalling human rights record, their horrific leader, annexing Crimea, rigging elections etc. They were boo'd shit in 2014 as a result of the hate - yet still pulled in votes. The following year they nearly won. And it's simply not a case that their votes just comes from Belarus, Azerbaijan, Georgia.......

 

So, even if we were hated more than Russia (which is super unlikely), then that wouldn't necessarily mean we wouldn't get points.

 

Portugal didn't ever win until recently and hardly had a glittering past in Eurovision. As soon as they send something half decent - they win. I bet they didn't throw their toys out of the pram year after year when they continued to perform badly. In fact, if memory serves me well, did they not almost poke fun at themselves in a sketch for sending poor entries in 2018?

 

If we were despised as much as we say - we wouldn't have done half decent in 2009 and 2011. Or did we get a temporary reprieve those years from our British-hating European neighbours?

 

This is absolutely on point. The UK are the worst losers at this game. Failing to accept defeat despite sending broadly uncompetitive songs.

 

My favourite British excuse is by Nicki French blaming the beef crisis for her, at the time, worst ever UK result (weird to think a lot of us would be satisfied with that result). A hilarious excuse anyway but particularly desperate considering it was five years ago by that point and we secured a victory in that time scale.

Edited April 20, 20196 yr by ScottyEm

These excuses for the UK doing badly really do get tiresome. Look at the chart performance of recent UK entries. There hasn't been a major hit for a long time. If even British audiences don't like the song, why should anyone else?

Everyone getting hysterical over my comment :lol: It was a tongue in cheek comment to the continued mass boring coverage of Brexit and added to the fact we’ve basically told Europe to go f*ck themselves - I never think politics enters into the results too much especially as we have consistently sent weak entries but I do think Brexit will have an impact this year... ‘F*ck off Europe but we want your votes’

The video is really good! I'm honestly shocked that it actually looks like they've spent some time on it! Simple, yet effective. It sells the song a whole lot more too. :wub:

https://vk.com/video-3320130_456244600

 

Probably the best performance of this to date! Much less cringy trained hand movements and running around as he was told to. Gives a taster of what they could do with staging that would be of interest.

I doubt "Bigger Than Us" will become an UK Eurovision evergreen for me, but you never know, maybe this song ages well... I have to say, the only UK entrys I'm still listening to are Gina G and Jemini.

lucie jones and gina g are the only UK entries i'd ever go out of my way to listen to

I just can’t watch him. There was more notes off key than on in that performance. The verses were awful - he is trying to over sing it and just ruins it. He will be bottom 3 without a doubt.

Edited April 26, 20196 yr by Rossco

Of our 00s entries I still love and regularly listen to Teenage Life, Flying The Flag (For You) (yes really x2), It's My Time, I Can and Children Of The Universe.

 

I also occasionally play Come Back, No Dream Impossible, Cry Baby, You're Not Alone and Never Give up On You. Can't say I would go out of my way to listen to the others.

 

But our 1996-1999 run of entries was amazing, would count all four songs among my all-time faves.

These excuses for the UK doing badly really do get tiresome. Look at the chart performance of recent UK entries. There hasn't been a major hit for a long time. If even British audiences don't like the song, why should anyone else?

 

Yeah I missed out that point! "We don't like our song, but you should!"

 

 

Everyone getting hysterical over my comment :lol: It was a tongue in cheek comment to the continued mass boring coverage of Brexit and added to the fact we’ve basically told Europe to go f*ck themselves - I never think politics enters into the results too much especially as we have consistently sent weak entries but I do think Brexit will have an impact this year... ‘F*ck off Europe but we want your votes’

 

Of course, now some members disagree with your comment, it's quite easy to say it was a tongue-in-cheek comment. If you're going to jump on the bandwagon, at least bloody well stay on it for 5 seconds! And we haven't told Europe to f*ck off - we told the EU to f*ck off. There is a fundamental difference between the 2. If Brexit were to have had an impact - it would have been 2017 that took the brunt (fresh after we said goodbye to THE EU). Funnily enough we didn't do too badly that year (in respect of how bad we normally do).

 

 

Very good performance :wub:

Can the UK ever finish in the Top 10 in Eurovision?

 

What now for next year?

The BBC really need to do something, we can’t keep sending half-arsed songs and expect to do well. Perhaps select internally and focus on having a great song sung by a great vocalist.

The UK was far from the worst and really didnt think it deserved last or near it either.

it was the worst like seriously. nothing memorable.

 

Uk needs to chase and send some high profile figure, I mean most of the time the other countries send somewhat a popular artist!!!