Agreed but Johnson is a low life who is just out for himself. I saw through him very quickly before he even became PM. No substance, a liar and full of bullshit. I’m convinced the Tories will now lose the next election due to him which is a good thing for sure!

 

Many people thought he was a complete twat when he he became Mayor of London back in 2008. His expensive useless vanity projects, taking credit for things he never did (like the cycling scheme, introduced by the previous Mayor, Ken Livingstone being called 'Boris' bikes by his media friends - like WTAF?), his not coming back from holiday during the London Riots until very late, his horrible comments about minorities as a journalist. But he turned out to be much much worse as PM.

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I loved how one of his deluded devotees said on the news last night not long afterwards that he had "won handsomely".

I can't help feeling it will be people most of us didn't even realise were ministers in the first place. Possibly holing a position we didn't know existed such as Minister for Spoons.

 

Shhh don;t tell anyone but Dorries was too dumb to be trusted with the important Spoons job. Spends most of her time shit-stirring and they were worried she'd use the best spoons!

I loved how one of his deluded devotees said on the news last night not long afterwards that he had "won handsomely".

 

Was it Rees-Mogg? I doubt his eyes have been able to see anything above waist height for 3 years, what with his tongue permanently stuck up Bozo's ass....

If you thought Dorries' declaration yesterday that we were at war with Ukraine was bad, she's at it again today by babbling on about £80m the Tories have received from the donors who were calling for MPs to support Johnson. Unfortunately for her, £80m is rather more than has been declared to the Electoral Commission (now, of course, controlled by Gove). So, either she has no idea how much the party has received or she has inadvertently told the world that the Tories haven't been entirely honest in their declarations. Oops.

Hahahahaha. HOW do they keep allowing her to speak in public? :lol:

Many people thought he was a complete twat when he he became Mayor of London back in 2008. His expensive useless vanity projects, taking credit for things he never did (like the cycling scheme, introduced by the previous Mayor, Ken Livingstone being called 'Boris' bikes by his media friends - like WTAF?), his not coming back from holiday during the London Riots until very late, his horrible comments about minorities as a journalist. But he turned out to be much much worse as PM.

 

Johnson knows how to charm and many people have been fooled by his jovial character but underneath is someone who is callous, disingenuous, deceitful and who only cares about himself. Most PMs would have resigned by now given he was fined by the Police and the large number of people who voted against him in the confidence vote.

So would you like to know what I think. Good result and keeps Boris as PM hopefully to win another full term in 2024. I agree with what one MP said on TV yesterday. Boris has done far more good things as PM than bad things. Of course the biggest thing we must thank him for is doing the public's wished and getting us out of the nasty EU.

 

Hopefully we can still win the next election cos the alternative is horrendous. Starmer hasn't a clue.

So would you like to know what I think. Good result and keeps Boris as PM hopefully to win another full term in 2024. I agree with what one MP said on TV yesterday. Boris has done far more good things as PM than bad things. Of course the biggest thing we must thank him for is doing the public's wished and getting us out of the nasty EU.

 

Hopefully we can still win the next election cos the alternative is horrendous. Starmer hasn't a clue.

 

Well it’s good to see people share different opinions but I think many people including myself will disagree with you about Johnson and the Tory party remaining in power. I am interested to know what you think they have done well as I am scratching my head to find anything that has been good?

 

I personally think the Tory party has done a lot of damage to the UK in their 12 years of government due to the impact of austerity, undermining workers rights, massive waiting lists with NHS which is struggling to cope, incompetent handling of the pandemic resulting in the highest death rate among Europe and the Brexit mess is far from over. If they introduce legislation to overstep the NI protocol this will cause a trade war with the EU and ordinary people and businesses will suffer considerably at a time when we have a cost of living crisis. The whole party gate affair and culture at westminister has significantly undermined the governments reputation here and abroad and the worst thing is Johnson is not even sorry about it as he told his MPs he would do the same again. I don’t think Starmer is great but he appears to be a man of integrity at least and I think we badly need a change of government and need to give him a chance. I cannot think of anything worse than being stuck with the Tories for another term and they are completely out of touch with the general public.

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So would you like to know what I think. Good result and keeps Boris as PM hopefully to win another full term in 2024.

 

Good result? 148 of his OWN MPS have no confidence in him, that isn't going to go away - no matter how much you, him and the rest of his blind devotees want it to. Plus there's the small matter of the two upcoming by-election which they're obviously going to lose heavily.

So would you like to know what I think. Good result and keeps Boris as PM hopefully to win another full term in 2024. I agree with what one MP said on TV yesterday. Boris has done far more good things as PM than bad things. Of course the biggest thing we must thank him for is doing the public's wished and getting us out of the nasty EU.

 

Hopefully we can still win the next election cos the alternative is horrendous. Starmer hasn't a clue.

 

Well youre half-right, it's a good result, as it'll help make Tories much more unpopular than they currently are. PM's aren't judged on what they have done right vs what they have done wrong (though note the UK is forecast to be on 10%% inflation and second-worst economy in the G7 since we left the EU, so not that much of a success), but whether they are decent and honest and in their intentions and can stand by everything they have said. As a compulsive liar that's quite a stretch for this man, which is why three-quarters of non-cabinet Tories also think he's a lying wastrel. These aren't loonie lefties or wishywashy liberals. They are Tories. Given Bozo unseated Theresa May and all she tried to do, it's rather appropriate that there's a payback due. Payback's a bitch in politics when your own team get fed up with you (see Thatcher).

I hate the 'but the alternatives are even worse!' attitude to excuse this, because if this really isn't enough to be seen as 'even worse' at this point, how can we know exactly until it happens? Making things better start with change, not being open to any other options is just maintaining the status quo long enough to make it even worse.

I hate the 'but the alternatives are even worse!' attitude to excuse this, because if this really isn't enough to be seen as 'even worse' at this point, how can we know exactly until it happens? Making things better start with change, not being open to any other options is just maintaining the status quo long enough to make it even worse.

 

What’s worse is that the alternatives aren’t worse. They could be described as no better but they’re certainly not worse and it’s hard to imagine anyone being as bad as Johnson.

I can't think of a single good thing Johnson has done in his life never mind as PM.

 

The word on the street is that he's going to be daddy an 8th time soon. Not with wife number 3, though.

I hate the 'but the alternatives are even worse!' attitude to excuse this, because if this really isn't enough to be seen as 'even worse' at this point, how can we know exactly until it happens? Making things better start with change, not being open to any other options is just maintaining the status quo long enough to make it even worse.

 

It's deliberate fearmomgering in order to create a narrative. It's one thing rightwingers are very good at, I'll give them that. I'd like to see the left get better at fighting fire with fire, instead of taking the high moral ground.

 

Priti Patel is a traitor to the country conspiring with foreign powers. Johnson's a letch with a taste for inappropriately younger women. Sunak doesn't pay his taxes. Gove's an adulterous drug taker.

 

Why isn't Labour pointing this out to socially conservative voters? Why aren't there any neutral tabloids pitting Starmer's 'classy' wife against Carrie? Etc. The narrative is totally one sided right now and its not natural. A quick google for example brings up that Starmer's wife and children are Jewish! Funny how we never heard about that while the whole of Labour was being hammered as definitely antisemitic!

Great article from Adam Bienkov.

 

Boris Johnson is Now Trump Without the Popularity

The Prime Minister is determined to cling on to power – no matter how much more damage he does to his own party and the country

 

https://bylinetimes.com/2022/06/07/boris-jo...-conservatives/

 

Boris Johnson’s authority is gone. He has suffered the worst result in a confidence vote any prime minister ever has. It was a crushing verdict on his leadership from Conservative MPs.

 

41% of them, including up to 75% of his own backbenchers, called for him to stand down. Many more came close to joining the rebels, were it not for Downing Street promising them ministerial jobs and even knighthoods.

 

If almost any other prime minister had suffered that sort of result, they would have stepped down immediately. But not Johnson.

Meanwhile, news deflecting going on from Downing Street with plans to allow people with little or no income to get mortgages to buy Housing Association properties. Taxpayer supported obviously, that means those of us who have never been able to afford a house, but not poor enough to qualify for spending 10 years on a waiting list for a Council House, paying to give massive mortgage-default-risks (benefit to count towards a mortgage as "income") a cash gift assuming that the banks can suddenly get reckless all over again knowing that the taxpayer will save them again in order to try and boost the popularity of a liar with the struggling working class and hang on to those borderline seats at the next election. And more importantly the by-elections coming up, as a shit result will persuade more Tories to dump Bozo. Oh, yes, forgot to add that Right To Buys are still ongoing, Council's sell 2 at half price to buy one back in a cheaper area, the waiting lists get longer and the private sector renting out gets rich on the back of the taxpayer. I'm currently dealing with a complaint about a sale plan being wrong on a Right To Buy from 5 years ago. The new buyer doesn't like the plan. The previous Council tenant waited until the 5-year-period was done and wasted no time cashing in on the £75,000 cash gift from the Council. Happy to help.

 

What could possibly go wrong with the new plans?

I live in social housing but I wouldn’t want to buy my home and in fact I am trying to get onto the property ladder. The problem with council housing is the properties are generally not great and need a lot of work on them, you also get some tenants who cause problems such as ASB. I’d rather live in a better area with nicer neighbours and if you did buy a council or social housing home, I think it would be difficult to sell. Who wants to buy a flat in a council block?

Right to Buy is unfair for people who have never been eligible for coucnil property but have paid rent to private people year after year after year and unlikiely to get on housing ladder (me included). Seriously, though they need to supply lots of affordable housing asap.

I live in social housing but I wouldn’t want to buy my home and in fact I am trying to get onto the property ladder. The problem with council housing is the properties are generally not great and need a lot of work on them, you also get some tenants who cause problems such as ASB. I’d rather live in a better area with nicer neighbours and if you did buy a council or social housing home, I think it would be difficult to sell. Who wants to buy a flat in a council block?

 

I agree with the ASB issues in council estates which is mostly caused because people allocated council tenancies are on the whole people who suffer from poor mental health and addiction issues and many aren’t tenancy ready and need more effective floating support and medical support. (That’s not everyone but many)!

 

But the standards the council has to meet are far and away greater than that of a private landlord who pick and chose which laws to follow.