We're a lot closer, geographically, to Washington than Hawaii is.

 

 

 

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: What a basis for an argument.

 

We're infinitely closer to Paris, Berlin, Amsterdam, Brussels, Madrid than we are to Washington OR Hawaii.

Lololol pink unicorns. The UK is intrinsically linked culturally and socially to Europe and always has been. Sorry. Next!

 

'Always'? We've been at war with many European countries for much of the last 1000 years. :rolleyes:

 

'Always'? We've been at war with many European countries for much of the last 1000 years. :rolleyes:

 

Ans been invaded. And invaded. Just look at our language - half romance, half Germanic, Old English developing through Old Norse snd then later French intoMiddle English! Social and cultural bonds run deep. Our economies are tied together. So is our past and so is our future - intrinsically linked. Sorry :(

'Always'? We've been at war with many European countries for much of the last 1000 years. :rolleyes:

 

What about the last 70+ years? What changed?

 

That was the best performance I have seen from Corbyn. Boris truly is an amateur.

Link??

'much of the last 1000 years' is misleading. There were periods of relative war (Thirty Years/Napoleonic/World Wars) and relative peace created by new agreements in cooperation (Westphalia/Congress of Vienna/now what is that last one). Major wars would, speaking generally, only happen once the last horrific conflict was out of living memory. There were people in the Edwardian Indian Summer (a little nickname for that period as it was so peaceful for Britain) scoffing at the idea of war in Europe. It can happen again and one should be thankful that there is an organisation encouraging cross-cultural contact across a continent to make it less likely, and wish it every success.

That was the best performance I have seen from Corbyn. Boris truly is an amateur.

 

 

I don't think either particularly stood out and watched it live. Was pretty even.

Johnson has been defeated again today. Has he won a vote yet?

I don't think either particularly stood out and watched it live. Was pretty even.

 

Lolololol. It wasn't. You are so so so so soooo BIASED TOWARDS THE TORIES, doffing your cap to your masters, that if you think it was even, you can be 100% SURE Corbyn wiped the floor with thay blustering bumbling buffoon. And he did. Johnson was ATROCIOUS.

Lolololol. It wasn't. You are so so so so soooo BIASED TOWARDS THE TORIES, doffing your cap to your masters, that if you think it was rven, you can be 100% SURE Corbyn wiped the floor with thay blustering bumbling buffoon. And he did. Johnson was ATROCIOUS.

 

 

I agree. I'm no big fan of Corbyn these days but he was collected, yet still passionate and raise very VERY good points, whilst still showing the frustration and anger that any opposition would be showing at this point. Johnson was flustered, rattled, dodged ALL of the questions Corbyn put to him and completely threw his toys out of the pram. He made Theresa May look half way competent.

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Worst pm EVER. Cameron and Mad May found relieved and laughing.

Banter era stuff - Theresa May's Withdrawal Agreement is back on the legislative agenda, seemingly by accident:

 

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Apparently the government didn't provide tellers to count the no votes so the amendment went through automatically. I... am truly shocked that this is something that is even possible? That seems like something that could be used for some extremely nefarious purposes? (Arguably this is that already, although the WA will just be rejected again anyway so it's ultimately pointless).

 

Well, quite!

It's all a proper mess isn't it? May'd Deal might actually get through afterall.. with a backstop!!! :lol:

Banter era stuff - Theresa May's Withdrawal Agreement is back on the legislative agenda, seemingly by accident:

 

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So that's three votes he's lost. No wonder he wants to prorogue parliament - it's his best chance of avoiding beating May's record by the end of the month.

It seems he wanted this amendment to get through.

It seems he wanted this amendment to get through.

It wouldn't be a surprise. The government used the same tactic under Theresa May; they failed to proved tellers to avoid the embarrassment of losing a real vote. They then just brushed it off and insisted it didn't matter.

 

I said a few years ago that Johnson would want to call an election almost immediately if he became PM due to a leadership change. It always seemed likely that he would want to get an election out of the way before too many people realised what an appalling individual he is. Let's hope he's already too late for that.

Sad evening for all us who voted for Brexit. :( I'll never ever vote in an election or referendum again. What's the point when the result is trampled on by MP's? We'll never leave now and it's not May or Boris's fault. I hope all you Remainers are satisfied and all your taxes go up steeply with the inflated amounts we'll have to pay the EU in years to come.

 

My wife voted OUT and hasn't paid much attention to the news since but can't understand why we're still in after 3 years. Told her it's angry remainers conspiring to keep us in.

Edited September 4, 20195 yr by Common Sense