Not even worth dignifying that with a comment

I have never paid a penny tax in my life. :)

We know...

Sorry, am just upset and have had to buy 3 cans of K to drown my sorrows. I don't particularly want no deal, admit that there may be problems, but it's just dragging on and on and on. I'll be dead without knowing the outcome. Let May's deal come back once more and get it passed or sack the lot of them. We're paying them almost 80k a year for this fiasco.

Edited September 4, 20195 yr by Common Sense

Sorry, am just upset and have had to buy 3 cans of K to drown my sorrows. I don't particularly want no deal, admit that there may be problems but it's just dragging on and on and on. I'll be dead without knowing the outcome.

Oh go and boil your head Chris!

 

We know...

 

 

You beat me to it! :lol:

Oh go and boil your head Chris!

 

 

Tell me why you don't want to respect the result of the referendum. If remain had won I'd happily accept that outcome.

 

I feel so sorry for Boris. He's tried his best to get us out, as did May and been royally shafted by MP's.

Edited September 4, 20195 yr by Common Sense

Sorry, am just upset and have had to buy 3 cans of K to drown my sorrows. I don't particularly want no deal, admit that there may be problems, but it's just dragging on and on and on. I'll be dead without knowing the outcome. Let May's deal come back once more and get it passed or sack the lot of them. We're paying them almost 80k a year for this fiasco.

 

 

So you´re upset? GOOD. Now you know how we have felt for the last THREE YEARS, having ACCEPTED the result(before you even go there with the whole "you lost" bollocks) but having to watch our inept government trying to divorce us from the EU in the most extreme way possible whilst claiming that 17.4 million voters are fine with no deal, demonstrating that they neither care nor have the best interests of the nation at heart.

 

Not a nice feeling is it?

Edited September 4, 20195 yr by mald487

Sad evening for all us who voted for Brexit. :( I'll never ever vote in an election or referendum again. What's the point when the result is trampled on by MP's? We'll never leave now and it's not May or Boris's fault. I hope all you Remainers are satisfied and all your taxes go up steeply with the inflated amounts we'll have to pay the EU in years to come.

 

My wife voted OUT and hasn't paid much attention to the news since but can't understand why we're still in after 3 years. Told her it's angry remainers conspiring to keep us in.

 

 

Sorry, am just upset and have had to buy 3 cans of K to drown my sorrows. I don't particularly want no deal, admit that there may be problems but it's just dragging on and on and on. I'll be dead without knowing the outcome.

 

Oh come on Chris, while there are plenty of people who want to stop Brexit there are plenty of people who know we need to deliver Brexit. I do not understand what the big issue is around offering a 2nd referendum which at least outlines some plausible options. Everything we knew in the original referendum is not what was delivered.

 

People want Brexit done- if we get Brexit done and leave does that sort out Brexit? Nope. For the next 12 months all that will be on the news will be the outcome of delivering Brexit. I can understand Brexiteers frutrations and I do sympathise a lot, but just wanting a pure idelogically no deal just to deliver Brexit is stupid. Many people who voted for the bill yesterday actually voted FOR the original Withdrawl Agreement, so it's nothing to do with stopping Brexit, it's all to do with not allowing us to destroy our encomy and take years and years to get it back together.

 

It is not there may be problems, there will be problems. And major ones as someone who knows what a major business plan looks like...

So you´re upset? GOOD. Now you know how we have felt for the last THREE YEARS, having ACCEPTED the result(before you even go there with the whole "you lost" bollocks) but having to watch our inept government trying to divorce us from the EU in the most extreme way possible whilst claiming that 17.4 million voters are fine with no deal.

 

Not a nice feeling is it?

 

 

You've never accepted the result. Go and post as a Brexiteer on Mumsnet and see what happens. Have been abused no end there and told I need locking up in a mental asylum. :rolleyes:

Edited September 4, 20195 yr by Common Sense

Oh come on Chris, while there are plenty of people who want to stop Brexit there are plenty of people who know we need to deliver Brexit. I do not understand what the big issue is around offering a 2nd referendum which at least outlines some plausible options. Everything we knew in the original referendum is not what was delivered.

 

People want Brexit done- if we get Brexit done and leave does that sort out Brexit? Nope. For the next 12 months all that will be on the news will be the outcome of delivering Brexit. I can understand Brexiteers frutrations and I do sympathise a lot, but just wanting a pure idelogically no deal just to deliver Brexit is stupid. Many people who voted for the bill yesterday actually voted FOR the original Withdrawl Agreement, so it's nothing to do with stopping Brexit, it's all to do with not allowing us to destroy our encomy and take years and years to get it back together.

 

It is not there may be problems, there will be problems. And major ones as someone who knows what a major business plan looks like...

 

 

I don't mind a 2nd referendum although I fully think it would give a remain result.

Sorry, am just upset and have had to buy 3 cans of K to drown my sorrows. I don't particularly want no deal, admit that there may be problems, but it's just dragging on and on and on. I'll be dead without knowing the outcome. Let May's deal come back once more and get it passed or sack the lot of them. We're paying them almost 80k a year for this fiasco.

You do realise that the price of those cans includes quite a lot of tax?

 

Oh, and how come you still haven't accepted that the referendum was only advisory? The result placed no obligations whatsoever on anybody.

You've never accepted the result. Go and post as a Brexiteer on Mumsnet and see what happens. Have been abused no end there and told I need locking up in a mental asylum.

 

 

How dare you. I have ALWAYS accepted that we have to leave. What I ABSOLUTELY object to is the utterly reckless and damaging that way that our government are going about it, ruining small businesses(like my Dads), creating uncertainty and damaging lives and the welfare of people the process. So don´t put words in my mouth - THANK YOU.

Edited September 4, 20195 yr by mald487

Sorry, am just upset and have had to buy 3 cans of K to drown my sorrows. I don't particularly want no deal, admit that there may be problems but it's just dragging on and on and on. I'll be dead without knowing the outcome.

 

Come on Chris, it's not worth worrying that much about it. You just have to accept the way things are, that Brexit more likely than not, won't happen (or if it does happen it will be a Brexit in name only probably), because the negotiations with the EU just didn't work out and no deal is seen as too risky for most parliamentary MPs (and probably most people in the UK general public) to want to risk.

Edited September 4, 20195 yr by TheSnake

I don't mind a 2nd referendum although I fully think it would give a remain result.

 

It might do, it might not- who knows without a vote!

 

There was so many original lies told in the original campaign, I'm sure people from both sides have changed their tune. My main problem is No Deal, it's a terrible idea and don't let anyone ever tell you it's a good one.

 

Be interesting to see what happens next- I genuinely have no idea.

 

 

How dare you. I have ALWAYS accepted that we have to leave. What I ABSOLUTELY object to is the utterly reckless and damaging that way that our government are going about it, ruining small businesses, creating uncertainty and damaging lives and the welfare of people the process. So don´t put words in my mouth - THANK YOU.

 

 

It's the EU that won't offer us a better deal though, admittedly because of May's red lines. I don't really want no deal but if that's how we have to leave then so be it. Doubt Boris or Cummings want no deal either. We don't really know what Corbyn wants. For an opposition to pass up an election chance is absurd.

Edited September 4, 20195 yr by Common Sense

I don't mind a 2nd referendum although I fully think it would give a remain result.

So you accept that a majority of people now want to remain? Why, then, should the government go full steam ahead with an extreme form of Leave when most people would rather Remain?

So you accept that a majority of people now want to remain? Why, then, should the government go full steam ahead with an extreme form of Leave when most people would rather Remain?

 

Well because that was the result in 2016 and we haven't had a vote since.

It's the EU that won't offer us a better deal though, admittedly because oy May's red lines. I don't really want no deal but if that's how we have to leave then so be it. Doubt Boris wants no deal.

Why should they offer us a better deal? It's not as if they voted to chuck us out. Besides, weren't we told that we would hold all the cards in the negotiations? How's that working out?

It's the EU that won't offer us a better deal though, admittedly because oy May's red lines. I don't really want no deal but if that's how we have to leave then so be it. Doubt Boris wants no deal.

 

 

Why should they? We chose to leave. They are absolutely not obligated to. If they offered us an amazing deal then countries across the block would be having referendums. They are going to act in the interest of their 27 remaining members. Why can´t leavers get their heads around this BASIC FACT.

Edited September 4, 20195 yr by mald487

Well because that was the result in 2016 and we haven't had a vote since.

But wouldn't it be a good idea to check before going ahead with something so drastic? It's not as if the Leave campaign exactly provided anything resembling a detailed plan in the referendum. A narrow majority voted, in an advisory referendum, for an ill-defined concept. Now that we know more, why not see what the electorate want?