Maybe have a referendum about it!!!

Maybe have a referendum about it!!!

 

 

Yes lets. I predict 52-48. :D

Edited January 26, 20205 yr by Crazy Chris

Maybe have a referendum about it!!!

 

Grin.

Because obviously the real reason was not the coins! :rolleyes:

 

Well, it wasn’t obvious to me as you reverted straight to you ‘there’s more of us than them’ reasoning.

 

 

No-one? Have you asked every single person in the UK? I think it's a great idea actually.

 

You might like the idea but you never asked for it. That’s the point. It’s unnecessary.

I can’t wait to come home and make like an English shop keeper/taxi driver etc when presented with a RBS/BoS/Clydesdale Bank note and refuse to take one of those vile things in change.

Well,with respect, 1. what do you mean by delivering, and 2. Can you give me some examples of when rightwing ideology has been successful at delivering something?

 

The trouble is its quite difficult to have a discussion properly between perspectives when yourself and Chris tend to just give responses like "well isn't it obvious?" or "obviously leftwing XYZ is worse" without going further into it.

 

If you did actually explain some examples, I might agree with you - but I can't conclude so with no information or case studies.

 

Off the top of my head, the NHS is a leftwing enterprise and the value it delivers is a healthier society with less chance of any of us being menaced by epidemics because of early preventative care.

 

So what are some rightwing examples and what were their positive results, please?

 

So zero response to my open-minded question in the spirit of discussion, consensus and co-operation so we can come to understand each other, then?

In the run-up to the planned October withdrawal date (remember "do or die"?), the government spaffed over £100m on an advertising campaign. In the run-up to Friday, nothing. There are two main possibilities.

 

1) The October campaign was the most successful campaign ever and, therefore, no further advertising is required.

 

2) The campaign, as many suspected at the time, was a pre-election blitz on behalf of the Conservative party, paid for by all of us.

No-one? Have you asked every single person in the UK? I think it's a great idea actually.

 

Brexshit only got 27% of the population. Seeing as we didn't ask everyone, it should be cancelled :)

 

You are right Suedwheas. It was a stolen election. It was so corrupt. There was no hope vs a 100 million election campaign plud the weight of the one party state media plus facebook allowing lies plus brexshit party habing at least 15% on top of Tory 30%. The opposition falling for it was one of the dumbest political decisions since brexshit. And yet when I asked, what are they doing? on here, I couldn't even raise it as a discussion, as rhe right wing trolls RUSHED in to say "hahahaha conceding the election already LOL". Sigh.

So zero response to my open-minded question in the spirit of discussion, consensus and co-operation so we can come to understand each other, then?

 

I am VERY interested to see his reply. The right wing ideology is a failed one. It can only win through lying, cheating and manipulation. It fails too because it fights change, and change is the natural state of the entire universe. It faild again because it has produced absolutely nothing positive, unlike the left, and just perpetuates inequality and power of the monied elite. You can also add brexshit as one of the many failures of the right.

2) The campaign, as many suspected at the time, was a pre-election blitz on behalf of the Conservative party, paid for by all of us.

 

 

Probably mostly true.

The moronic tories blunder on:

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-5125...IrkxXFgbXMGsxw0

 

Like, their aims for the talks are, um, WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE NOW AS A MEMBER?! Jesus. Bojo and his oven-ready pork pies.

I am VERY interested to see his reply. The right wing ideology is a failed one. It can only win through lying, cheating and manipulation. It fails too because it fights change, and change is the natural state of the entire universe. It faild again because it has produced absolutely nothing positive, unlike the left, and just perpetuates inequality and power of the monied elite. You can also add brexshit as one of the many failures of the right.

 

Does an 80 seat majority count as a failure too? :rolleyes:

Does an 80 seat majority count as a failure too? :rolleyes:

 

Marx explained it many many years ago: false consciousness. Is ee you ignored my points about how it only wins through lies, cheating, manipulation? This election had a 100 million pre election Tory campaign, a one party state media machine, facebook lies from onlyy ONE side, years of brexshit propaganda, hiding from scrutiny, etc, etc. False consciousness. Sorry. The ideology itself is a failute and has done NOTHING to progress humanity. And you know it.

Going back to Queef's idea of 3-1 country approval for brexit - should London also remain in because they voted strongly against Brexit - after all, its population is roughly the same as Scotland's? :rolleyes:

 

Or for that matter, why not decide whether to Remain or Leave on an individual constituency basis? :rofl:

 

That's why Scotlond was actually bandied around as an idea x Then your Brexitlandia really would be up a creek!

 

Scotland is a COUNTRY. Ignoring it is English imperialism at its worst. Seriously. How DARE you strip us of our rights based on a 50 50 vote? How DARE you? And then to laugh and celebrate as you deny us our rights snd freedoms? It's a f***ing disgrace.

That's why Scotlond was actually bandied around as an idea x Then your Brexitlandia really would be up a creek!

 

Scotland is a COUNTRY. Ignoring it is English imperialism at its worst. Seriously. How DARE you strip us of our rights based on a 50 50 vote? How DARE you? And then to laugh and celebrate as you deny us our rights snd freedoms? It's a f***ing disgrace.

 

FFS, quit it with the overblown hyperbole!

 

Anyway, Brexit is a victory for people power over the establishment, virtually all of which was against it!

Bojo. Farage. The BILLIONAIRES. The millionaire tory twats. The f***ing ESTABLISHMENT PRESS. BBTORY promoting Farage.

 

THEY ARE ALL THE f***ING ELITE!! THEY ARE THE f***IN ESTABLISHMENT!!! STOP. TROLLING!!! We told you YEARS ago that this supposed groundswell of right wing populism was not grass roots, but rather bought and paid by global oligarchs the world over gaming the system!!

 

My friend applied for a job in Europe. She got told she would have to apply for a visa over there, come back here, have 5000 USD in her bank account (and as a remainer, she ISN'T part of the elite, so that's a problem), and have health insurance. f***. Sake. Thanks, vidcapper, thaaaanks xxxxx

London has a considerably higher population than Scotland. It could quite easily become a Singapore or Hong Kong style city state if the people of London so chose. That is the power of self determination.

Brexshit is disgusting and has pissed me off so much. The gloating nature of people like vidcapper just makes it 10x worse.

Sajid Javid has unveiled the new commemorative 50p coin to mark Britain's departure from the EU on 31 January.

 

The chancellor originally ordered production of the celebratory coins in advance of the original departure date of 31 October.

 

But the Brexit delay meant around a million coins had to be melted down and the metal put aside until a new exit date was confirmed.

One side will say "Peace, Prosperity and Friendship with all nations"

That's extremely arrogant, hypocritical and ironic all at once.

Brexshit is disgusting and has pissed me off so much. The gloating nature of people like vidcapper just makes it 10x worse.

 

 

I have not seen Vid gloat once. He doesn't strike me as that sort of person to be honest. He has been very restrained as I have too.

Edited January 26, 20205 yr by Crazy Chris