Good to see, though the damage to the BBC from this isn't gonna go away. They've now essentially pissed off both sides and shown everyone exactly what they are which won't be easy to shake. Sooner the next GE and the Tory plants up top are out the better, although still quite a while :(

Fantastic to see Gary Lineker back but yet still Fiona Bruce who dressed a bit inappropriately for Crimewatch all those years ago stays as presenter on Question Time it isn't okay at all.

Don’t think how Fiona Bruce decides to dress is the problem here????

Hopefully this is a turning of the tide and an eye opener for the media. They’ve not been playing to their audience for a long time.

 

I'd love to agree but although this is a very satisfying climbdown, the BBC is still owned by a Tory and has them in leadership positions. Plus on this occasion they picked on probably the most popular man in the most popular sport in the UK. Most times their targets aren't in a position to get the mainstream support, sadly. However, it has opened more eyes to the corruption that is going on so perhaps they'll be slightly more careful, who knows?

This feels like a decent conclusion but no long-term solutions, that will only happen once the current team heading up the BBC are gone.

Don’t think how Fiona Bruce decides to dress is the problem here????

Sorry I meant this:

 

 

I’m not disputing what you’re saying” but said that while Johnson’s wife had said he had broken her nose and she had ended up in hospital as a result, “Stanley Johnson has not commented on that. Friends of his have said it did happen, it was a one-off.”

It was the right conclusion, but it was unfortunate that it ever came to this really. The BBC has angered just about everyone; initially caving to pressure from the right wing press and parts of the UK Government and then a humiliating collapse to further pressure from its own sports team and increasing public/political pressure. It was absolutely ridiculous that you had those that have been disingenuously claiming anger at so-called 'cancel culture' shamelessly calling for him to be sacked for his comments - have some consistency in your argument.

 

I think the Fiona Bruce situation is a little different though. I imagine that they knew that the topic of Stanley Johnson would come up and the legal team prepared that statement for her to read out. That doesn't change the optics of minimising domestic abuse with the flippant sign off 'it was a one-off' but I do understand why she had to interrupt to make it clear that Yasmin's comments were opinion and not fact, and I don't think it's consistent to call her out for that.

 

No matter how much of a Tory shill she is xx

I think it’s right to call her out for that sign-off. That was beyond legal talk and straight into minimisation and someone who claims to be so deeply involved in the cause, that was just callous language and she should have known better.

I think it’s right to call her out for that sign-off. That was beyond legal talk and straight into minimisation and someone who claims to be so deeply involved in the cause, that was just callous language and she should have known better.

 

THIS!!!

 

A legal statement could be something like: "Allegations of domestic abuse have been made against Blojo's Tory dad (who spawned the worst prime minister in history), by his late wife. She claimed he broke her nose in one incident. Blojo's (aristocratic pos) father hasn't commented on the matter, and he has not been convicted."

 

Covers them legally and doesn't minimise domestic violence. She literally flippantly said, it was a one off!!!, in defence of her Tory overlords. She really should have known better, and it vame across as a purposeful defence via minimisation.

Labour FINALLY saying it how it is - though it should have done so in 2017 and ESPECIALLY up to 2019, when BBTory went IN on Corbyn as a threat to thr Tory establishment - and has said that BBC acted like something "from Putin's Russia". Correct! BbTory is nothing more thsn government propaganda these days.

Linekar deserves all he gets. His Tweets were bang out of order. What if I'd said something similar about Nazis here? It's a very sore subject.

 

Plus he refused to answer his phone to his bosses and refused to go in and see them. Would you ignore calls from your boss? Anyone who stands by him should be fired too.

 

I can't believe you all supporting him here. Free Speech, yes, but what he said justifies his sacking, permanently.

 

 

He is spot on actually and anyone offended by it are completely missing the point by not being offended by the actual actions of the government towards vulnerable people.

Now Sunak gets his oar in:

 

He is a twat. How is it compassionate to send exploited and abused people to a country with a horrific human rights record?!? Honestly you can’t make it up.

Former BBC staffers have expressed concerns about the leaked WhatsApp and email messages suggesting the corporation bowed to pressure from No 10 to avoid using the word “lockdown” at the start of the pandemic and to turn up criticism of Labour.1

 

He said the “most troubling aspect of this is that these messages suggest that the political news team were not just made aware of Downing Street’s view but encouraged to reflect it as the BBC view … That’s pretty scandalous”.

 

New article in the Guardian, with ex BBC reporters quoted in it. Some retweeted thr allegatioms!!!

 

Seems I was right, Popchartfreak!!! The BBTory is government, Tory, establishment propaganda. Fascism.

 

bringing this thread back (BBReform bias? same thing really?)

Byline Times

BBC Bosses Draw Up Plans to Win Over Reform Voters by Cha...

The Director General Tim Davie and other executives discussed altering BBC “story selection” in order to secure the "trust" of supporters of Nigel Farage’s party

as if they don't already do enough pandering and outsized influence for them, a push notification for the Scottish by-election this weekend not long after Labour unexpectedly won it to 'here's why Reform were the real winners of this by-election despite coming third' was particularly egregious.

I do think their supposed unbiasedness has been found wanting lately.

Director General Tim Davie and News CEO Deborah Turness have resigned as a result of a published memo by the Telegraph that recommended that Panorama edit two parts of Donald Trump's speech in 2021 to make it look like he explicitly encouraged violence.

BBC News

BBC director general Tim Davie and News CEO Deborah Turne...

It comes after a leaked memo criticised the editing of a documentary about Donald Trump and accused the BBC of bias in a number of areas.

Annoying that it's a bias against Trump of all things, but putting my thoughts on him aside, that is a big journalism no-no and a correct response.

Potentially a good opportunity for Labour here to get someone in less obviously favoured by the opposition, or maybe they'll go back to the old reform so that the government don't have a say. I would hope they would depoliticise it overall, and it's reporting can now be unbiased as it should be. I noticed yesterday they were so quick to report that the Algerian escaped prisoner had happened in October 2024, before realising it was earlier and could've been under the last government, just frothing at the mouth to continue this divisive narrative.

(Changed the thread title also as we are potentially approaching the era of Reform Bias, joy xx)

Tim Davie just seemed hell bent on appealing to Tories/Reform more than anything. He made a comment about the BBC needing more "conservative television" a few years back.

Fresh blood can't do any harm.

Galling that Trump as the most powerful man in the world has the ability to sway this over here - though you could certainly say the BBC were in the wrong here, the clip they're being brought up on implies something different from what was meant, though it was part of a documentary and documentaries do often use similar stylised speech cuttings to fit the direction of the documentary's argument. Not the sort of thing I'd think should be a director resigning matter, they've had far more egregious incidents and a long held subtle sway towards promoting the right that should have gotten Davie gone long before now. As exemplified quite well in my most recent post.

Anyway now that that's done, hopefully there is an appointment who is not so clearly ideologically towards the Conservatives and/or Reform, though I have no doubt that Labour will make damn sure they don't put in anyone who could be seen as left-leaning because they must pre-emptively capitulate to the media landscape., and most especially when not doing so would actually help them.

The BBC was bias before both of them were in position. They’ve been frothing like a rabies infected dog against independence in Scotland for years.

Their current shite is to some how use „Scottish“ Labour to build an SNP bad narrative about Labour raising taxes.

13 hours ago, Silas said:

The BBC was bias before both of them were in position. They’ve been frothing like a rabies infected dog against independence in Scotland for years.

Their current shite is to some how use „Scottish“ Labour to build an SNP bad narrative about Labour raising taxes.

They were immensely biased against Corbyn and pushing for a Tory victory during elections too!

Yeah i normally stay away from the bbc and politics because they are all just a bunch of lying see you next Tuesdays 😅

Trump is now threatening to sue the BBC to the tune of ONE BILLION DOLLARS for defamation here.

I would really like the BBC to put reporting on this in perspective here. Let us not forget, this is a documentary surrounding an incident where Trump incited and attempted to be part of a coup, attempting to overthrow the United States government because the results of an election were not to his liking. Now for reasons known only to the Americans, this somehow did not disqualify him from public office for life and even more incredibly, he has managed to get himself back into power on the wishes of the American electorate. That does not erase the fact that he at numerous stages between November 2020 and January 2021 made multiple statements questioning the validity of the vote, at multiple points made phrases including the sentiment 'fight for your country', and the fact that the BBC shoddily stitched together some speeches on the documentary (honestly poor form from them when they had plenty of material to choose from to make the same point) does not take away from him being an anti-democratic danger.

There is a concerted push from right populists to undermine the BBC. What we constantly pull it up for, that it subtly frames towards government institutions and has said right populists on too frequently in the name of balance doesn't even figure from them, they hate that it's the most popular news org in the UK and is mostly grounded in reality and accurate reporting. It's 'too pro-Palestinian', or it's even lefty. Anyway they would love if it could be replaced by GB News and I think we ought to be very careful and watch what they're doing as they go to war with the BBC.

For instance, see this article from the Telegraph (archived link) about BBC's climate change coverage being too biased and to need a review. Of course reviews are generally good, and if the BBC were to be unbiased and honest about the climate change crisis it would be forever the top story, there would be so much more focus about what climate change is doing to equatorial countries such that they are becoming less habitable year by year and the tone would be meandering between highly alarmed and downright apocalyptic. However while this article does acknowledge what 'the Left' have a problem with, that being the standard and correct claim that having a climate scientist and a sceptic on the same program is a laughable way to claim balance, most of the 'accusations of bias' are more along the lines of deniers complaining that the BBC is being overzealous. Think for example that Attenborough documentary talked about in this thread in 2023 getting cut (quoted below), or claims about net zero. Essentially that the BBC shows any care for the climate crisis at all is a problem for them.

On 10/03/2023 at 21:46, danG said:

BBC have also scrapped an episode of David Attenborough's forthcoming series for being "too political" (cos it tells the cold hard truth about the destruction of nature in Britain)

 

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/mar/...-backlash-fears