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I know I sound like a broken record but seriously — how does she still have a job with the BBC?

She didn't even spell check it. Wow.

I mean, it’s near enough a modern version of the ‘coalition of chaos’ tweet. Which Johnson should be tweeting, not the BBC political editor.

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Inexcusable.

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Inexcusable.

 

I'm shocked it's only 88%, given that being truthful is such an alien concept to them.

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I know I sound like a broken record but seriously — how does she still have a job with the BBC?

 

She needs to resign. Her bias is so, so blatant. They may as well have me on as the left wing correspondent for balance if they're going to allow these very obvious right wingers to dominate.

 

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I know I sound like a broken record but seriously — how does she still have a job with the BBC?

 

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Isn't it against electoral law to view postal votes ahead of the election? Isn't it illegal to broadcast details of how people have voted ahead of the election?

 

Whatever the laws or the rules are — it's incredibly dubious for someone in her position to be acting so carelessly.

Edited December 11, 20195 yr by blacksquare

One of the Tories, Rabb, maybe, they are all the same, blurted out live on air he'd seen postal votes!! He then tried to sidestep it. Apparently Mogg did the same and I just saw that one Tory asked constituents to send postal votes to their office?? If this is true it is DIRE. Has democracy already died?? I'm going to have to switch to the ballot box instead of postal voting. I can't trust it. That is bad when we can't even trust voting in a supposed democracy.

 

https://www.timesandstar.co.uk/news/1806338...tal-vote-claim/

One of the Tories, Rabb, maybe, they are all the same, blurted out live on air he'd seen postal votes!! He then tried to sidestep it.

 

 

They were discussing postal votes getting looked at beforehand on DS the other day and the general consensus was that some postal votes figures do get leaked. :o Didn't Sturgeon say something during the Scottish referendum about it being close but quickly retracted it and then it was? They're not supposed to be opened until after the polls close but they apparently do take the outer part off to check the signature beforehand.

 

I know a girl who works for Newham council who's been counting votes in our town hall for a few elections now, asked me to do it if she put a word in, and she says they're all piled up on one desk unopened. Then when they start to open them a member from each party witnesses it. Who knows thought what goes on around the country?

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Right, so imagine if someone filled it in in pencil and someone is coming along looking before the count. This should not be allowed. They need to be opened in a controlled enviornment in the counting. Who knows what could happen to them otherwise - forcibly spoiled ballots, changed ballots, missing ballots, etc. Nornally this would just be conspiracy theory stuff, but apparently we have people viewing postal votes ahead of time!! So basically, who the hell knows? It just casts doubt on the process. There's a reason why it is illegal to look at them before the count. This is incredibly dangerous for democracy. Not only that, but then REPORTING on what they say, which can influence how people vote, not to mention being illegal pre-count anyway, is just unbelievable. I reaally hope it's not true. Well, that's me finished with postal voting then.

They were discussing postal votes getting looked at beforehand on DS the other day and the general consensus was that some postal votes figures do get leaked. :o Didn't Sturgeon say something during the Scottish referendum about it being close but quickly retracted it and then it was? They're not supposed to be opened until after the polls close but they apparently do take the outer part off to check the signature beforehand.

 

I know a girl who works for Newham council who's been counting votes in our town hall for a few elections now, asked me to do it if she put a word in, and she says they're all piled up on one desk unopened. Then when they start to open them a member from each party witnesses it. Who knows thought what goes on around the country?

 

Everywhere should do it like her place does, as it is the law.

 

According to this lass, they're all in boxes on a seperate table away from the counters and other people and opened with a member of each party present if they want to be. I'll ask her if they check the signatures beforehand next time I see her? What's this outer part that they're talking about on DS that they can remove first to check the signature? I've never seen a postal vote form you see. They say they can check the signature without seeing hoow you've voted.

Edited December 11, 20195 yr by Crazy Chris-tmas

Everywhere should do it like her place does, as it is the law.

 

 

 

We know that Michael, as J told me, there are strict rules for how it's done but who's to say what happens elsewhere.

You fill in one sheet with dob and signature. That goes on the top over the voting envelope. You then fill in your vote, which goes inside a SEPARATE envelope. If they check the signature, they won't see the vote unless they open the second envelope.

Yes, the signatures will generally be checked before the count. Otherwise, there would be a long delay. However, the ballot paper itself should remain in its sealed envelope until the count. They will then be opened at the count. As with the rest of the process, parties can have representatives present to observe and ensure it is done properly.

You fill in one sheet with dob and signature. That goes on the top over the voting envelope. You then fill in your vote, which goes inside a SEPARATE envelope. If they check the signature, they won't see the vote unless they open the second envelope.

 

 

Right, so they can open the first envelope she says but NOT the second one, as they say on DS. I can't say if anything underhand goes on anywhere else can I but the returning officer should make sure it doesn't.

 

There have been rumours last week that Labour weren't doing well but how the hell do they know? :rolleyes:

Edited December 11, 20195 yr by Crazy Chris-tmas

Yes, the signatures will generally be checked before the count. Otherwise, there would be a long delay. However, the ballot paper itself should remain in its sealed envelope until the count. They will then be opened at the count. As with the rest of the process, parties can have representatives present to observe and ensure it is done properly.

 

 

Yes, Suedy we know what SHOULD happen.

But let's look at it from another angle. What if the Tory sources just PRETENDED it "looked grim" for Labour to Laura, and rhen she goes and repeats the lie? It's pure propaganda. What was she thinking repeating it!

I could have done it last time, 2015, but then as J said, they may find out and say I'm fit for work so thought it wouldn't be worth it for a few extra quid. She works in Finance and said they were short. She does a polling station all day too but you're not allowed to do your own, has to be further way from where you live. Then is up all night too!

Edited December 11, 20195 yr by Crazy Chris-tmas

But let's look at it from another angle. What if the Tory sources just PRETENDED it "looked grim" for Labour to Laura, and then she goes and repeats the lie? It's pure propaganda. What was she thinking repeating it!

 

She's going to be in trouble if this story gains traction. Well, you would think. So, probably not.

 

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Edited December 11, 20195 yr by blacksquare