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The only bad thing is the Lib Dems take a bit of a battering in the polls as well, who will be needed to take seats off of the Tories. I thought Question Time was good last night and presents Labour with an opportunity. But massively clear some tax rises are needed, so I guess it now comes down to how that message is managed.
The only bad thing is the Lib Dems take a bit of a battering in the polls as well, who will be needed to take seats off of the Tories. I thought Question Time was good last night and presents Labour with an opportunity. But massively clear some tax rises are needed, so I guess it now comes down to how that message is managed.

 

Tbh I still expect tactical voting to hold in the South West and certain posh towns in Surrey, Oxfordshire etc... I hope Starmer doesn't get to agressive and rule out a pact. Nothing to be ashamed of - I think everyone who votes for either of the two parties will want the Tories out so even if the RW press try it and smear it as 'Coalition of Chaos' or 'Backroom deals' answer would be 'Yes SO?'

 

39 point lead though - my God!

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Initial polls for the first days of Sunak are NOT showing a significant bounce for him. You Gov lead went from a ridiculous Labour lead of 37 down to 28 but a Redfield Wilton went from 33 to 32 point lead. The previous polls were taken at the chaotic time of Truss resigning so Tories were at an extraordinarily low. And the austerity has yet to bite hard. Coupled with ridiculous decisions to place Braverman in a high position.
Initial polls for the first days of Sunak are NOT showing a significant bounce for him. You Gov lead went from a ridiculous Labour lead of 37 down to 28 but a Redfield Wilton went from 33 to 32 point lead. The previous polls were taken at the chaotic time of Truss resigning so Tories were at an extraordinarily low. And the austerity has yet to bite hard. Coupled with ridiculous decisions to place Braverman in a high position.

 

I'd be interested to see the polls post-budget. I have a feeling it's going to be very unpopular.

 

There was a poll in the Guardian yesterday with Labour on 42 or 44% and Tories at 28%. An improvement for the Tories yes but not sure for how long. Depends what the budget brings. If the public feel they are being penalised for the Truss administrations costly mistakes in terms of tax rises and austerity then I think the ratings will drop again. Either way - the Tories need to be held to account for 12 terrible years of governing.
Didn't last long for the conservatives. I feel like me matter what they do now, once an election comes along they're dust.
Didn't last long for the conservatives. I feel like me matter what they do now, once an election comes along they're dust.

 

I really hope so. We badly need a change. It’s just the same terrible government, with a few different faces but underneath same policies, lacking in any proper ideas and sheer incompetence. Kicking out the Tories will be the only way things will begin to improve in this country.

One thing worth watching out for in opinion polls in the next few weeks is the figures for Reform UK (aka the continuity Brexit Party). In two polls this weekend they've polled 9% and 8%, the highest they've polled under that name, and more than the Lib Dems. Whilst it could still be an anomaly due to some pollsters still including them as a default option for polling and being used as a "none of the above" protest with the respondees, if the numbers still remain high, and if they start getting notable numbers in polls where they're not listing as default option, it could cause further heartache for the Tories (especially if Nigel Farage decides he wants another crack at the whip).

 

Although regardless of them gaining ground, they've no shot of actually gaining any meaningful power due to FPTP - one of the great ironies of UKIP's meteoric rise is that it could not have happened without the EU Parliament, as PR allowed them to gain a foothold in UK politics.

 

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LAB: 50% (+1)

CON: 26% (-2)

LDEM: 9% (-2)

GRN: 5% (+1)

RFM: 4%

 

New Redfield & Wilton supporting the idea of basically no honeymoon period for Rishi Sunak.

 

Who would make the best PM:

 

Keir Starmer: 40% (+1)

Rishi Sunak: 36% (-2)

Will be interesting to see the poll numbers after the budget. Certainly looks like Labour's lead is pretty much cemented in and the public can see despite a new PM it's still the same government.
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