June 27, 20205 yr oops just seen I've given points to only 3 semi one countries (Hendinia, Wholune and Singerpurear being the lucky ones), one AQ and 11 semi two countries. Guess semi two was the better semi final!
June 27, 20205 yr Semi 2 was clearly the pop hoe semi, at least in terms of its qualifiers xx (though interesting to note that POPHub actually had a slight bias to semi 1, false advertising!!)
June 27, 20205 yr Right so here's some fascinating stats following on from discussion in this thread xx Headline conclusion: with a small handful of exceptions, the bias towards songs from one's own semi-final is pretty distinct and clear-cut, this month at least. It's such a clear correlation that I'd be pretty surprised if this isn't something that's always the case, but I'll investigate a few older contests at some point to double check! I ended up pretty close to the middle (still a small bias to my own semi, but below average among semi 1 voters) which I choose to believe is also good evidence that listening to both semi-finals helps to eliminate that bias. Though that may just be a coincidence. Countries in blue were in semi 1, countries in red were in semi 2. Ordered by % of points given to semi 1 songs (ignoring any points given to the auto-qualifiers), so if the bias exists, you'd expect the top half to be mostly blue and the bottom half to be mostly red, and well... This has been FiveThirtyBréight x (well done to Flynnonda for being the ultimate non-biased nation!)you need to do these for future contests, just for experimental fun :P
June 28, 20205 yr Congrats to Altyr! Yay for a nailbiting finish, and I think this is decent justice served for Nova not winning before with 'Anything For U'. I never would've guessed she's only 18! I wonder where she would rank among BJSC's youngest winners :o 26th doesn't quite meet my expectations but I won't complain, since it's my highest finish since January. I enjoyed getting as high as 14th but sure enough peaked at the halfway mark, with all of Semi 1's votes revealed and none of Semi 2's, so the theory about the semi bias/familiarity applies there for sure. Speaking of, I did notice while I was voting that my votes were more skewed toward my own semi than probably ever before, so not surprised at all that I was indeed the most biased to Semi 1 :kink: Can't say the top 10 was much to my tastes, only voted for three of them! Pleased that Flynnonda (my 18) got as high as 12th and a bit shocked that my 15 and 13 (Cadelicia and Greenfroze) ended up in the bottom half, both seemed like potential dark horses to me. I'm glad Singerpurear finished in a respectable place! The hosting was thorougly enjoyable, thank you Jupiter!
June 28, 20205 yr Also here are the stats for the inverse (i.e. which songs received the most points from semi 1 countries vs. semi 2 countries). The outliers should match up to which songs had the worst 'wrong semi' effect (out of those that qualified obvz). I am fully vindicated in thinking I was in the wrong semi, I had the only song that was more reliant on semi 2 countries than the average semi 2 song!!! (note that there's a small inherent bias to semi 1 as there were 29 voters from semi 1 compared to only 27 from semi 2 - though interestingly semi 2 songs as a whole received more points than semi 1 songs, so the consensus seems to be clear that semi 2 was the better semi)
June 28, 20205 yr so just checked thebscoreboards and I was very much screwed over by Frandoot not voting
June 28, 20205 yr Caerfyddia and Oslol are next: Caerfyddia Oslol Note that Oslol originally provided their votes in the form of an image so this is a clarification from the host of the figures. I feel censored.
June 28, 20205 yr Well, congratulations to John! Not a track I had on my radar at all so that's a nice surprise and it's very pleasant. And great hosting from Jupiter, I really enjoyed reading through these threads I just wish I'd qualified to be more involved with it all. Especially interesting discussion on biases within voting, I've been fairly aware they exist for a while, I think this month was just weird for me specifically because a lot of really good songs managed to qualify from Semi 1 (Aelandor deserved far better, despite his slander) and make up the top edge of my votes even with most of my semi 2 votes also qualifying.
June 28, 20205 yr Ahh congratulations Altyr! :cheer: A very enjoyable bop & worthy winner. Also Ultraviolenceland is a fantastic runner up, Faded was such a great discovery for me! That was such a close result :o Great hosting, J00psy :heart: Interesting stats re: the bias towards the songs from your semi. I was pretty close to being straight down the middle, but ultimately my fave from my semi ended up being my fave in the final (Ojnoj)
June 28, 20205 yr Congrats John, just missed points from us, fab top 12 or so, the top 3 is terrific, thank you Jupiter for hosting beautifully and what a torturous way to end the results on :lol: Thanks all who voted for Sam Cooke, and update thank you mentions to silver Suedonia and golden FARC - my fave of the comp by some distance was FARC, currently obsessed with it, so thanks Jake :yahoo:
June 28, 20205 yr Thank you for hosting Jupiter and congrats to John for winning!!!! And oop 8 from Hendinia in the semi down to 0 in the final
June 28, 20205 yr Very interesting to see the breakdown, particularly with me being so high in the rank of people that favoured our own semi more. My votes (I think) are usually a lot more evenly spread between semis (and AQs) but I definitely did end up in the semi more aligned to my tastes this time, which I guess was vindicated by Hayley doing so well in it. Although she did have solid, if unspectacular, support from the other semi as well; I believe her projected finish would have been just outside the top ten based on the semi result.
June 28, 20205 yr Good to be somewhere near the middle of the bias chart. I always spend the week the semi's are up only listening to songs from that semi, then the following week will give the same amount of listens to qualified songs from the other semi, before giving a final listen in one go to determine the order. I always listen to the Spotify without knowing who's sent what either and only add country names on my PM to the host, to try and make sure I show no bias to certain countries.
June 28, 20205 yr amazing hosting j00ps, stress really brings it out in a queen x quite literally a diamond!
June 28, 20205 yr thank you joops for fabulous hosting and congrats john, obv a fabulous winner also congrats cody on finishing 4th!
June 28, 20205 yr The top 4 scores in my final vote were all from my own semi which is quite unusual. It's normally a lot more even than that. When I listened to the semi 2 qualifiers,I was waiting for a really good song to grab me but it never happened.
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