What's the point of a lockdown if schools have to still open? "Oh no bonfire or fireworks this year because of Covid but you have to still go to school" :rolleyes:

Edited October 19, 20204 yr by Crazy Chris

What's the point of a lockdown if schools have to still open? "Oh no bonfire or fireworks this year because of Covid but you have to till go to school" :rolleyes:

 

The point is to do everything we can to stop the NHS being overwhelmed to the point of descending into chaos whilst ensuring young people have the least possible disruption to their education having already lost half a school year. Missing one year of bonfire and fireworks is hardly going to have the same impact as closing schools for a second time long term.

What's the point of a lockdown if schools have to still open? "Oh no bonfire or fireworks this year because of Covid but you have to still go to school" :rolleyes:

 

Yes because children's education is very much on par with fireworks night.

 

I can't work out if you're just a troll these days, or if you really think what you're posting

I do feel for the pupils though. 7 probably very difficult weeks of school then when they finally get a break they can't do anything or go anywhere. But it certainly makes sense to implement such a tactic using one of the half-term weeks.

Yes because children's education is very much on par with fireworks night.

 

I can't work out if you're just a troll these days, or if you really think what you're posting

 

He's always been like this in my 14 years as a member of this forum, so I don't think it's anything especially new.

Yes because children's education is very much on par with fireworks night.

 

I can't work out if you're just a troll these days, or if you really think what you're posting

 

 

I was just pointing out how it looks from a parents/ child point of view.

I was just pointing out how it looks from a parents/ child point of view.

 

You weren’t though as the comparison was pointless

Can we stop pretending that schools staying open is all about the importance of education? That keeps being pedalled out but actually look at the evidence-primary schools stay open and Years 7 and 8? This is more about childcare. And that’s the message I have received loud and clear from the Welsh government today: I’m childcare.

 

I was prepared to have to work in the second week of lockdown, thinking that they’d want Years 10 and 11 in because they’re our exam groups. But no, the want the non essential year groups in. Losing 5 days of education would have made no difference and now because of this the lockdown will more than likely be extended. I’m not best pleased that my week of holiday is the start of all this so I can’t do anything but I was prepared for that.

 

I’m sure I’ll get a load of responses about the importance of education but unless any of you are living it like me, I doubt I’ll take any notice.

 

Thanks for the half arsed lockdown, Drakeford.

Another press conference from Boris Johnson this evening at 1700, will be joined by Deputy CMO Jonathan Van Tam and Steve Powis from NHS England.

 

No news yet on Greater Manchester and the move to Tier 3, call between Boris Johnson and Andy Burnham was still ongoing at 1200 - which was the deadline for an agreement being reached.

Another press conference from Boris Johnson this evening at 1700, will be joined by Deputy CMO Jonathan Van Tam and Steve Powis from NHS England.

 

No news yet on Greater Manchester and the move to Tier 3, call between Boris Johnson and Andy Burnham was still ongoing at 1200 - which was the deadline for an agreement being reached.

 

And Hancock addressing the Commons at 7pm. Either we're moving some more regions or there is another announcement.

 

When do we think we will know whether there will be a circuit breaker announcement? My best guess will be Thursday.

 

I still think the restrictions are a waste of time while Universities stay open.

I didn't think there would be any imminent circuit breaker lockdown announcement tbh, just tighter tier 3 restrictions but we will see!

 

I kind of hope we do go into full lockdown,it's the only way to get out of this mess now.

I didn't think there would be any imminent circuit breaker lockdown announcement tbh, just tighter tier 3 restrictions but we will see!

 

I kind of hope we do go into full lockdown,it's the only way to get out of this mess now.

 

There's no way we will go in to a full lockdown. Few reasons for this - we know more about the virus now, how it works, transmits etc. and plus it would tank our economy. A circuit breaker wouldn't be ideal, but if the Government stumped up the cash I think it could work to bide the time necessary.

 

Like I say, the big problem will be in in 6-7 weeks when everyone buggers off home for Christmas from Universities. Add that to households mixing for Christmas. If you don't put out the smoke now we're going to be chaotic in January.

Oh when I said full lockdown I meant circuit breaker haha! Isn't that the same as a "full lockdown" though, in the sense that it would be the same rulings back in April/March? Or am I missing something

 

I think it's the same other than not all shops have to close, unlimited exercise and schools remain open (so 1000 people in a building with no social distancing...the logic x).

 

I'm very very opposed to another full lockdown, I really think it'd just do more harm than good. I get the need for the restrictions we have in Scotland but we shouldn't have much more than them. I worry about the impact of people missing cancer appointments etc (which could already have claimed lives) if there's another lockdown.

Edited October 20, 20204 yr by Hallo'Riheen

Oh when I said full lockdown I meant circuit breaker haha! Isn't that the same as a "full lockdown" though, in the sense that it would be the same rulings back in April/March? Or am I missing something

 

Nah the idea of a circuit breaker is a half lockdown, pretty much the entire country going in to Tier 3. So no household mixing, but restaurants are still open - just maybe schools closed for 2 weeks. It won't be anywhere near as bad as the national lockdown.

Ahh I had in mind a circuit breaker was exactly the same as the first lockdown but just for a shorter, defined period and with only schools remaining open.

Another press conference from Boris Johnson this evening at 1700, will be joined by Deputy CMO Jonathan Van Tam and Steve Powis from NHS England.

 

No news yet on Greater Manchester and the move to Tier 3, call between Boris Johnson and Andy Burnham was still ongoing at 1200 - which was the deadline for an agreement being reached.

 

 

Burnham says he'll take it to court if Tier 3 is imposed without an agreement.

I think the main things that need to happen is virtual learning for universities, enforced and not guidance for working from home, no public transport unless urgent or key worker and no mixing of households.

 

I think the other measures are fine with maybe schools getting an extended half term break as well on top of this. But what do I know lmao

Ahh I had in mind a circuit breaker was exactly the same as the first lockdown but just for a shorter, defined period and with only schools remaining open.

 

Who knows really but I cannot see it being anywhere near as strict. I still think just lockdown Universities or keep them in bubbles on campus and you solve one massive problem. Tbh I find the whole situation daft in Manchester, the rates are coming down yet now they want to impose even stricter measures which is why Burnham was fighting so hard for extra resource. He has a great point.

Nah the idea of a circuit breaker is a half lockdown, pretty much the entire country going in to Tier 3. So no household mixing, but restaurants are still open - just maybe schools closed for 2 weeks. It won't be anywhere near as bad as the national lockdown.

 

 

Think non-essential shops would be closed too.