I understand that but has it not already ran amok? I don't think an instant return to complete normalcy is feasible for those reasons but what I am saying is I fail to see a discernible between the entire country being in say tier 2 levels of restrictions and the shoddy tier 1-4 system we currently have. Either do a proper lockdown (including schools ffs) or stick with the lighter restrictions (still excluding mass gatherings etc) because whatever the f*** is going on right now is not helping.

I know it sounds crazy but I think the Tier 4 areas should not lift any restrictions at all until March, they should shut the schools until then as well.

If this new strain is as transmissable as they claim then Tier 4 will do a fat lot of good and I can't support it. If it was still spreading like wildfire during lockdown then you simply have to temporarily stop schools otherwise there literally is little point. It's a no from me otherwise this time around.

Yeah I know we should.be feeling positive about the vaccine but ...I'm just not. I had my hopes up earlier in the year that we would be in a good position come Christmas so I wont fall for that again.

I feel exactly the same way, Jack.

If anyone wants a beacon of positivity, have a look at this

 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Epxzu1AXYAE3uAy...amp;name=medium

 

I know it's shit and I'm also in a weird mood after losing my dad and just feeling a bit meh in general and even thinking, perhaps we have to make some human sacrafices. But that's also a horrible way to look at it and is also not the answer. Times are shit now but they will get better. It really is complete roll reversal since September/October with the south badly affected now.

 

Going to have to close schools in January surely, to do anything else would be absolute madness.

I'm really sorry to hear about.losing your Dad, Rooney.

 

 

I feel sorry for all the lorry drivers stuck in Kent. Hundreds of them awaiting tests and it's doubtful they'll all get home by tomorrow. Supermarkets have sent vans full of sandwiches, wraps, savouries, cakes and biscuits and bottles of water for them.

Edited December 24, 20204 yr by CHRIS-TMAS

I feel sorry for all the lorry drivers stuck in Kent. Hundreds of them awaiting tests and it's doubtful they'll all get home by tomorrow. Supermarkets have sent vans full of sandwiches, wraps, savouries, cakes and biscuits and bottles of water for them.

And the government has sent precisely nothing.

The French government didn’t do much either though!

And the government has sent precisely nothing.

 

 

Which is very wrong. Thanks goodness for Asda and Tesco stepping up to the mark today.

The French government didn’t do much either though!

Well we know what Jack Mogg thinks about offers of help from out the UK.

And the government has sent precisely nothing.

Not even a thought or a prayer in a tweet? :o

Not even a thought or a prayer in a tweet? :o

:lol:

We’re lucky we’re not dealing with MERS. If MERS was spreading as fast as COVID, there would be a lot more deaths

Which is exactly why diseases like MERS dont spread as fast. They have severe symptoms way too early to infect a lot of others.

If you put them in order from most contagious to least contagious, it would go COVID, SARS and MERS then if you put them in order from most deadly to least deadly, it would go MERS, SARS and COVID

If you put them in order from most contagious to least contagious, it would go COVID, SARS and MERS then if you put them in order from most deadly to least deadly, it would go MERS, SARS and COVID

 

That's why covid is such a bitch, it's easily transmissable but not deadly enough to kill most people it infects.

 

Also as suspected, most of the world is picking up the new covid variant, which might not have even originated in the UK, we just detected it first.

That's why covid is such a bitch, it's easily transmissable but not deadly enough to kill most people it infects.

 

Something like ebola is arguably scarier than covid though because it has such a high fatality rate, even if it is only spread by sweat not by air particles like ebola is, that still means any surface could have it on it.

According to the Mail, Boris is being urged by SAGE to close schools until at least mid-Feb in tier 4.

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-90...ol-opening.html

 

 

Pressure was growing on Boris Johnson last night from within his own party to keep pupils out of school at the start of the new term as it was revealed students in Tier 4 may be at home until mid-February.

 

Schools in the stay-at-home areas could be set to remain closed until February half term in a circuit-breaker style delay, as Scientists warn that the new coronavirus mutation appears to spread quickly among youngsters.

 

Education minister Gavin Williamson is set to formulate plans in crunch talks with Downing Street officials and the Department for Education today.

 

Under current plans, all primaries will return as normal on January 4, along with GCSE and A-level pupils and those on vocational courses.

 

Mr Williamson has warned allies he faces an 'enormous battle' to keep children attending secondary schools, with one Whitehall source telling The Sun that schools in Tier 4 will be closed until February 15.

Edited December 28, 20204 yr by CHRIS-TMAS

Makes no sense to have a lockdown but have schools open imo!

I can’t wait for it to be confusing, inconsistent and last minute.