I don’t want it to drop off the charts though? And it would be deserving of the most weeks at number one so what’s the problem? You would rather have fake #1s?

 

This forums double standards never fail to astound. When ACR is brought in to stop Drake having 19643 weeks at number 1 it's good to manipulate the charts. When the 3 songs rule is introduced to stop Ed Sheeran having every position in the top 10 it is relief. Both those things manipulate the chart already so that certain songs and artists don't dominate the charts because of streaming. Why shouldn't something else be introduced to stop Mariah and the onslaught of Christmas songs, because she is a female buzz jack fave?

 

If the OCC have already identified that streaming can let certain artists and songs dominate for too long creating a stale boring chart and done something about that they should absolutely do the same for Christmas songs.

Edited December 10, 20205 yr by sammy01

I don't know how this has suddenly become a "Buzzjack loves female artists lol" kinda thing? The issue here is different. ACR doesn't wipe out older songs entirely, it dulls their effect so we can get the best of both worlds - popular songs hang around well and new music can climb higher, faster. At this time of year, people CHOOSE to listen to Christmas songs (Mariah being just one of many). Their effect is already lessened by ACR - the OCC has dealt with their impact by introducing the permanent ACR rule for songs over 3 years old. There's not really much more they can do, short of removing them outright which is a far more ludicrous and over-the-top suggestion than ACR ever was.

I don't know how this has suddenly become a "Buzzjack loves female artists lol" kinda thing? The issue here is different. ACR doesn't wipe out older songs entirely, it dulls their effect so we can get the best of both worlds - popular songs hang around well and new music can climb higher, faster. At this time of year, people CHOOSE to listen to Christmas songs (Mariah being just one of many). Their effect is already lessened by ACR - the OCC has dealt with their impact by introducing the permanent ACR rule for songs over 3 years old. There's not really much more they can do, short of removing them outright which is a far more ludicrous and over-the-top suggestion than ACR ever was.

 

So it's a good thing when the charts let new music climb but just not in December obviously.

 

So it's a good thing when the charts let new music climb but just not in December obviously.

But people don't want to hear new music right now. The most-streamed non-Christmas song isn't even at 300k daily Spotify streams - that's VERY low!

It isn’t much lower than what we’ve seen throughout the year though, is it?

 

I for one definitely want to hear new music and I’m definitely not the only one.

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Thursday Top 40 Update

Missing Data: Spotify (for Wednesday) and YouTube (for Tuesday and Wednesday)

 

Singles

 

1 Mariah Carey - All I Want for Christmas Is You (35.2k)

2 Wham! - Last Christmas (31.6k)

3 Ariana Grande - positions (26.2k)

3 The Pogues feat. Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale of New York (24.5k)

5 Shakin' Stevens - Merry Christmas Everyone (22.6k)

 

6-10

7 Jess Glynne - This Christmas

8 Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas?

9 Michael Bublé - It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas

10 Elton John - Step Into Christmas

 

11-20

11 Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me

12 Chris Rea - Driving Home for Christmas

13 Wizzard - I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday

16 Kelly Clarkson - Underneath the Tree

18 Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree

19 Justin Bieber - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree

 

21-30

23 Leona Lewis - One More Sleep

25 Slade - Merry Xmas Everybody

26 The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU *

27 John Lennon, Yoko Ono & the Plastic Ono Band with the Harlem Community Choir - Happy Xmas (War Is Over)

28 Andy Williams - It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year

29 Michael Bublé - Holly Jolly Christmas

30 Paul McCartney - Wonderful Christmastime

 

31-40

33 Bobby Helms - Jingle Bell Rock

35 Justin Bieber - Mistletoe ^

39 The Weeknd - Blinding Lights ^

40 The Ronettes - Sleigh Ride ^

 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

Albums

 

1 YUNGBLUD - weird! (33.6k) *

2 Michael Ball & Alfie Boe - Together Again (20.8k - 59 sales ahead)

3 Arctic Monkeys - Live at the Royal Albert Hall (20.8k) *

4 Gary Barlow - Music Played by Humans (13.8k)

5 Neil Diamond & LSO - Classic Diamonds (13.4k)

 

6-10

6 Kelly Jones - Don't Let the Devil Take Another Day *

7 Andre Rieu & Johann Strauss Orchestra - Jolly Holiday

8 Michael Bublé - Christmas

10 Andrea Bocelli - Believe

 

11-20

11 Shawn Mendes - Wonder *

15 Johnny Cash & RPO - Johnny Cash and the RPO

16 Jamie Cullum - The Pianoman at Christmas

18 Sam Smith - Love Goes

 

21-30

28 Fleetwood Mac - Rumours

30 Abra Cadabra - Product of My Environment *

 

31-40

33 Paul Heaton & Jacqui Abbott - Manchester Calling ^

34 Russell Watson - 20 ^

37 Mica Paris - Gospel *

39 Robbie Williams - The Christmas Present ^

But people don't want to hear new music right now. The most-streamed non-Christmas song isn't even at 300k daily Spotify streams - that's VERY low!

 

How many big new songs are being released because they know they will get swallowed up by Christmas songs and 300k isn't much below average and certainly not for an 8 week old 'new' song.

 

Let's just hope Ed Sheeran releases a Christmas song next year and then everyone on here will call for an end to the Christmas songs dominance and the OCC might actually do something about it.

Not everything is to do with BuzzJack hating male artists 🥴

How many big new songs are being released because they know they will get swallowed up by Christmas songs and 300k isn't much below average and certainly not for an 8 week old 'new' song.

 

Let's just hope Ed Sheeran releases a Christmas song next year and then everyone on here will call for an end to the Christmas songs dominance and the OCC might actually do something about it.

Yes, everyone will suddenly start hating Christmas songs just because Ed Sheeran releases one.

so Mariah is extending her lead and Jess still top 10, Amazon must be reporting crazy (made up) figures :D but works for Mariah this week

 

unbelievable that Mendes is gonna miss the top 10

How many big new songs are being released because they know they will get swallowed up by Christmas songs and 300k isn't much below average and certainly not for an 8 week old 'new' song.

 

Let's just hope Ed Sheeran releases a Christmas song next year and then everyone on here will call for an end to the Christmas songs dominance and the OCC might actually do something about it.

:lol: You do make me laugh, fingers crossed for a Merry Sheeran Christmas next year. :lol:

 

I do somewhat agree with you thought tbh, but mainly due to my adversion to streaming.

 

Any update on where Steps are today? :wub:

L.MIX are #12 on albums ?

Yes at Mariah, surely its dead cert now.

 

Why has Kelly fell 2 places too 😩hope it can climb back up one to top 15

so Mariah is extending her lead and Jess still top 10, Amazon must be reporting crazy (made up) figures :D but works for Mariah this week

 

unbelievable that Mendes is gonna miss the top 10

 

Even though that Amazon have reported their streams and Spotify and YouRube haven’t reported all of theirs yet, Mariah is still ahead of Jess by at least 13k.

Is that Shawn with his bundles added in or have they still not been?

 

This era is near enough mirroring Camila's a year ago.

Any update on where Steps are today? :wub:

 

Mine are still between my hall and landing if that helps.

Is that Shawn with his bundles added in or have they still not been?

Still not dispatched :drama:

Any update on where Steps are today? :wub:

 

#14

 

L.MIX are #12 on albums ?

 

You answered your own question if that helps :D

On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely do you think it is that Mariah will be number 1 in the UK tomorrow?

Still not dispatched :drama:

 

What a monumental cock-up!