Let’s wait and see what the MaFIA give max in penalties. Abu Dahbi could be over before it even starts

Let’s wait and see what the MaFIA give max in penalties. Abu Dahbi could be over before it even starts

Lewis has been summoned too

I saw. But I’m a realist. Fully expecting Max to be given some nasty penalties that makes the next race a foregone conclusion.

 

Have lost all faith in the FIA

 

 

 

Still can’t believe the absolute shitshow that was the officiating today. The on track stewards were diabolical but the race director was even worse. Alonso was right. There should have been a proper safety car to allow the track to be cleaned up

At the moment I don't see any evidence to suggest Max brake tested Lewis. None of the extensive footage demonstrates he did. It's only Lewis and Toto who are saying this, and that's exactly what Seb said about Lewis in Baku a few years back - right before Lewis was exonerated.

 

All other incidents were dealt with.

 

But my concern too is that Lewis was unaware Max was letting him by. Masi might be to blame if he told Red Bull before Mercedes but I'm not sure it wasn't Red Bull who made the decision and then informed Masi. Either way Lewis should have just cruised passed when Max slowed

I will feel sorry for Max Verstappen if he misses out on winning the Drivers Championship after being in the lead for the whole season and the fact that it would be his 1st Drivers Championship. The collision between him and Lewis in the British Grand Prix could be what makes the difference in the end and I think there has been some bitterness from Max towards Lewis ever since then but it is understandable.

I won’t feel sorry for either of them if they don’t win. There have been many incidents between them this year and it hasn’t always been the same driver at fault so I’m just going to see how the final race pans out.

 

Max has had more than his fair share of dodgy moments this season, it can’t all be pinned on Silverstone.

10 second penalty to Max. FIA statement that data shows he did brake, 2.4g deceleration just before impact.

 

With the track how it is there was always a chance that the race was going to be incident packed, but really felt like Masi had lost control of that today.

 

I am fully rooting for a Hamilton win next week, I don't think I've ever wanted an outcome in this sport more.

 

Certainly seems Max is most to blame in that case, but Lewis isn't without some fault too as he should have been smarter there. Not sure he'll earn a penalty too but it's possible. Won't make any difference either way.

 

 

I still think Max has been the better driver across the season but he has been getting a bit over zealous in the last couple of races and it's bordering on unacceptable.

As a MotoGP fan, this championship reminds me a lot to our 2015 season. Rossi led the championship for like 17 rounds, but lost to Lorenzo in the final round because of his penalty for causing an accident with Marquez. This might to happening to Verstappen as well this weekend.

 

Good luck to both Hamilton and Verstappen! Both drivers have been amazing this year and have made me watching F1 again.

 

 

I won’t feel sorry for either of them if they don’t win. There have been many incidents between them this year and it hasn’t always been the same driver at fault so I’m just going to see how the final race pans out.

Maybe they'll both do something horrendous in Abu Dhabi, get all their points discounted and Bottas will be champion.

 

Now that would be funny.

I'm bracing myself for a title deciding collision in the final round at Abu Dhabi.

actually a tie would be the best outcome for the season

so rooting for a crash on lap 1 and a tie :D

 

I was rooting for Max earlier in the season, but last few races he's behaving like a spoiled brat undeserving of the championship

 

If that’s a requirement, can we retroactively strip Hamilton of all of his WCs? Coz footballers cry less than he does.

One of the few times I've miss a race live and what a one to miss! (The others this season were Monaco & "Spa" tbf so I was due a chaotic one). I did at least manage to avoid what happened and watch the highlights without prior knowledge but wanted to rewatch all the replays etc.

 

Re "that" incident, at the time I was sure it was a brake test but having watched it again from other angles I really think it was miscommunication/confusion. Max didn't exactly make it obvious what he was doing yes but there was enough space for Lewis to pass and I think his hard braking at the end was to force Lewis to go by as he'd been told. Plus he would have then got the DRS back which ties in with his engineer telling him to do it strategically. Disagree with the 10 second pen for Max on that one (not that it made a jot of difference in the end but still).

 

However his antics into turn 1 was definitely justified in the other penalties. Couldn't believe the first restart especially, that's the sort of thing I do on F1 online :lol: I do lowkey kinda love it though, the win at all costs mentality is something to be admired and has made this season one of the best ever. As if they're actually tied on points going into Abu Dhabi, let's just hope he doesn't pull a Senna Suzuka '90 if they're both on the front row.

 

It's only been one race there but definitely getting Baku vibes from Jeddah as opposed to Abu Dhabi so already looking forward to the next one there in only 3 races time.

Re "that" incident, at the time I was sure it was a brake test but having watched it again from other angles I really think it was miscommunication/confusion. Max didn't exactly make it obvious what he was doing yes but there was enough space for Lewis to pass and I think his hard braking at the end was to force Lewis to go by as he'd been told. Plus he would have then got the DRS back which ties in with his engineer telling him to do it strategically. Disagree with the 10 second pen for Max on that one (not that it made a jot of difference in the end but still).

 

 

I largely agree with you here.

Max's passing off track rightly meant he was forced to cede the position back both times.

I think you are right about what Max was doing. Not an intentional brake test but an attempt to force Lewis to pass him. He got it wrong and I wouldn't argue too much over the time penalty in the end, if he hadn't have braked as he moved right he would have escaped the penalty.

It certainly was to gain DRS and repass him immediately which, although punishable in the past, seems to be allowed recently. I can't remember where but I'm sure Sainz did the same thing on some else this year and nobody had a problem with it then.

I'd also argue that Lewis was playing silly buggers here too by slowing as much as he did when he should have breezed passed Max. Lewis had both pace and tyre advantage and should have expected to pass Max again if needed.

 

I honestly thought that Lewis would have a reprimand for his part in the accident at Turn 27, until I realised it would have been his third this year and would have incurred a 10 place grid penalty for the final race

 

 

I still think George Russell's actions during the Perez/Leclerc accident should be looked at too. He had space to go in to but hit the brakes so hard that Mazepin's car went underneath his rear end, riding up over the halo, in what could have been fatal contact were the device not present.

Edited December 7, 20213 yr by Severin

Oh yeah forgot about the Mazepin/Russell incident (so much happened in this race) - it was like a less severe version of the Mugello crash from last season but still very dangerous. I've just rewatched the Mazepin onboard and perhaps a bit of an overreaction on the brakes from Russell but on his left he had Latifi jinking quickly to the right to avoid Perez. As was mentioned all weekend it being a very narrow track any sort of small reaction to a crash in front of you could easily mean you brush the walls but if one driver is cautious and another less so it can cause even bigger consequences.

Something which I've not really seen mentioned in relation to the incident to let Lewis passed is that was the 6th(?) time in the race that the leader has suddenly slowed down, there had been I think 3 VSC, 2 RF and 1 SC although 2 were the same incident, 4 with Max leading and 1 with Lewis. I would have thought your first thought when seeing the car infront slow right down again is that there's been another incident and he's seen the trigger for it first.

Something which I've not really seen mentioned in relation to the incident to let Lewis passed is that was the 6th(?) time in the race that the leader has suddenly slowed down, there had been I think 3 VSC, 2 RF and 1 SC although 2 were the same incident, 4 with Max leading and 1 with Lewis. I would have thought your first thought when seeing the car infront slow right down again is that there's been another incident and he's seen the trigger for it first.

Initially that may have been in Hamilton's thoughts but in the post race conference he appears to suggest he realised Max was going slow and trying to gain DRS which is why he also slowed excessively

Best driver:

Worst driver:

Best team:

Worst team:

Best overtake:

Worst overtake:

Best moment:

Worst moment:

 

And the race in a sentence:

Best driver: Hamilton

Worst driver: Tsunoda

Best team: Mercedes

Worst team: Haas

Best overtake: Verstappen 2nd restart

Worst overtake: Verstappen 1st restart

Best moment: 2nd restart, heart in mouth stuff

Worst moment: FIA "bargaining" with RB - dafuq was that all about?

 

And the race in a sentence: Chaos & carnage leaves title fight on a knife-edge (I know, get me into journalism :P)