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This is the official streaming services thread, the go-to topic for the discussion of playlists and charts from services such as Spotify, Apple & Amazon!

 

Spotify FAQs

 

What is streaming? What are the chart rules regarding streaming?

 

For streaming and chart rules related FAQs read this thread.

 

How do I see today's Spotify chart?

 

To see the daily top 50 update on desktop, log in to Spotify, click 'Browse', then click 'Charts', then click 'United Kingdom Top 50', or click the link below. The desktop top 50 may update before anything else so is always worth checking if the website is not up to date. However recently it has been known to not to do (even when the website has), so do check all sources. Also note that the Spotify Website will update before external websites (Kworb, LivePopBars). Occasionally there will be a delay in the Spotify chart updating which could even take days.

 

Useful web links:

 

Spotify App [top 50]

Spotify Website [top 200]

Kworb [top 200 and extra data]

 

Hot playlist links:

 

 

How often does the chart update?

 

It should update once every day, usually in the early afternoon - although this is not 100% guaranteed. Sometimes the top 200 on the website will update but without the top 50 on the app updating, and sometimes there will be no update at all.

 

How many plays on Spotify equals one download sale?

 

100 plays if you are on Spotify Premium, or 600 if you are using the ad-supported free tier. However you cannot simply play a song that many times in one day to give it one sale, you are limited to 10 plays per day in terms of what counts to the chart. (Spotify will let you play a song on repeat 600 times if you really want to).

 

The number changes to 200 or 1200 plays when a song moves to ACR. For more information on the rules of ACR see this thread. For information on what songs are currently on ACR and what songs will be moving to ACR, refer to this thread.

 

How much does Spotify contribute to the chart?

 

Streaming contributes over 90% to the singles chart as a whole, although the #1 still can be decided by who has better paid-for sales. Spotify counts for a good chunk of streaming sales (approximately half if not more), so doing well on Spotify is essential for doing well in the chart.

 

Why is my fave not doing well on Spotify?

 

Is it being promoted on one of Spotify's major curated playlists? If it isn't, it's unlikely to really take off! Hot Hits UK is the biggest of these playlists, with over a million followers. The playlist usually updates itself to include breaking hits once or twice a week, though there is no guarantee that your fave will get a place on the playlist. Also, the UK Top 50 is a largely followed playlist and that songs often experience a 'top 50 effect', when they enter the top 50 and get the additional exposure of being on the playlist.

 

Often sales hits don't cross over to being streaming hits, this is usually the case for songs with an older target audience, reality or campaign songs. Also keep in mind that it often takes longer for a song to take off on Spotify than it would on iTunes.

 

My fave didn't debut high and is falling already, does this mean they're flopping?

 

Not necessarily. Most songs debut relatively low as they aren't instantly well-known, and experience a sharp decline on Day 2 as they no longer have the promoted 'New Music Friday' effect. A lot of songs manage to recover through gaining popularity and additions to playlists. Exceptions to the rule of course come from massively hyped artists/releases such as Justin Bieber/Ed Sheeran/Drake who will of course enter straight at the top.

 

What do the numbers mean?

 

The streaming figures cited in the daily chart are the number of streams each song received the previous day. Unlike the iTunes chart, Spotify is not a rolling chart so the numbers will only change once per day.

 

[FAQs written by Dan]

 

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Apple Music:

1 & 64 B.O.T.A

2 Afraid To Feel

4 Hold Me Closer

5 I’m Good (Blue)

6 History

8 My G

15 Not Over Yet

 

18 Arctic Monkeys

21 Chris Brown - Under the Influence

32 Tom Grennan - All These Nights

121 Not Over Yet Remix

Spotify

 

:up: 01. Eliza Rose - B.O.T.A (286,456 + 123,166 = 409,622)

:up: 07. David Guetta and Bebe Rexha - I'm Good (227,953)

:down: 11. Arctic Monkeys - There'd Better be a Mirrorball

:up: 16. Chris Brown - Under the Influence

:down: 28. Elton John and Britney Spears - Hold Me Closer

:up: 32. Ghost - Mary on a Cross

:up: 92. Alesso and Zara Larsson - Words

:up: 140. Lizzo - 2 Be Loved (Am I Ready)

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BOTA is 130K ahead of LF, so done deal for the week :)

 

Arctics did not half bad, 200K is decent for a very uncommercial song

 

surprised Elton/Brit are not climbing more, they got decent support

 

 

 

 

Do we think Arctic monkeys will sneak into the top 40 tomorrow or do we think they released too late in the week to have any chance?
Do we think Arctic monkeys will sneak into the top 40 tomorrow or do we think they released too late in the week to have any chance?

 

I think so, I was doing some calculations...

so bare with me, so far this week they've done 350+200K on Spotify + 1 day to go, which will be estimated

but they should easily do like 150K... of course it all depends on what the occ estimates/makes up

but it's like 700K in these 3 days total on Spotify alone... which is approx 7K

Then i'd usually double that amount to account for all the other platforms + a bit of itunes but not very much for what I can see (they're on 0.1 relative to #1)

 

so 7K x 2 = 14K, probably much less cos it's doing far worse on Apple, no clue about Amazon, and of course some of the Spotify streams are free

but at least it should be 10K for these 3 dys

 

and you actually only needed 9K last week to go top 40, so think they should do it :D

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Spotify Chart Update (31/08)

 

:up: 01 04 Eliza Rose, Interplanetary Criminal – B.O.T.A. (Baddest Of Them All) - Edit 286,456 [*PEAK*]

:right: 02 02 Harry Styles – As It Was 281,492

:right: 03 03 LF SYSTEM – Afraid To Feel 280,195

:up: 04 05 OneRepublic – I Ain't Worried 259,270

:up: 05 06 Kate Bush – Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God) 243,669

:up: 06 09 Burna Boy – Last Last 235,372

:up: 07 10 David Guetta, Bebe Rexha – I'm Good (Blue) 227,953 [*PEAK*]

:right: 08 08 Nicki Minaj – Super Freaky Girl 226,256

:down: 09 07 Steve Lacy – Bad Habit 222,776

:up: 10 11 Central Cee – Doja 216,504

 

:down: 11 01 Arctic Monkeys – There’d Better Be A Mirrorball 204,025

:right: 12 12 KSI, Tom Grennan – Not Over Yet (feat. Tom Grennan) 201,063

:right: 13 13 James Hype, Miggy Dela Rosa – Ferrari 199,748

:right: 14 14 Beyoncé – BREAK MY SOUL 195,704

:up: 15 23 Calvin Harris, Justin Timberlake, Halsey, Pharrell Williams – Stay With Me (with Justin Timberlake, Halsey & Pharrell) 184,764

:up: 16 17 Chris Brown – Under The Influence 184,093 [*PEAK*]

:down: 17 15 Luude, Mattafix – Big City Life 179,865

:down: 18 16 Glass Animals – Heat Waves 175,332

:up: 19 20 Harry Styles – Late Night Talking 164,842

:down: 20 19 George Ezra – Green Green Grass 162,897

 

:down: 21 18 Arctic Monkeys – 505 161,665

:down: 22 21 Lizzo – About Damn Time 152,640

:down: 23 22 Tom Odell – Another Love 145,042

:right: 24 24 David Guetta, Becky Hill, Ella Henderson – Crazy What Love Can Do 143,977

:up: 25 28 Future, Drake, Tems – WAIT FOR U (feat. Drake & Tems) 136,463

:right: 26 26 Dave – Starlight 134,691

:up: 27 31 Aitch, Ed Sheeran – My G (feat. Ed Sheeran) 132,183

:down: 28 25 Elton John, Britney Spears – Hold Me Closer 131,067

:down: 29 27 The Killers – Mr. Brightside 130,491

:down: 30 29 Joji – Glimpse of Us 129,218

 

:up: 31 34 Bru-C – No Excuses 127,467

:up: 32 33 Ghost – Mary On A Cross 127,114

:down: 33 32 Arctic Monkeys – Do I Wanna Know? 126,225

:down: 34 30 Coldplay – Yellow 124,785

:up: 35 36 Tion Wayne, La Roux – IFTK 123,538

:down: 36 35 Eliza Rose, Interplanetary Criminal – B.O.T.A. (Baddest Of Them All) 123,166

:up: 37 38 Sigala, Talia Mar – Stay the Night 120,992

:down: 38 37 Doja Cat – Vegas (From the Original Motion Picture Soundtrack ELVIS) 119,275

:up: 39 40 Nathan Dawe, Ella Henderson – 21 Reasons (feat. Ella Henderson) 115,985

:up: 40 41 Joel Corry, Becky Hill – HISTORY 115,178

 

:right: 45 45 Nicky Youre, dazy – Sunroof 108,304

:down: 46 43 DJ Khaled, Drake, Lil Baby – STAYING ALIVE (feat. Drake & Lil Baby) 107,999

:right: 48 48 Rosa Linn – SNAP 106,392

:right: 50 50 BLACKPINK – Pink Venom 104,214

:up: 51 64 Oxlade – KU LO SA - A COLORS SHOW 103,874 [*PEAK*]

:up: 58 60 Fred again.., Swedish House Mafia, Future – Turn On The Lights again.. (feat. Future) 95,815

:down: 62 58 KSI, Headie One, Nines – Not Over Yet Remix (feat. Headie One & Nines) 91,470

:up: 66 68 Lil Tjay – Beat the Odds 88,734

:right: 67 67 Beach Weather – Sex, Drugs, Etc. 86,502

:up: 70 71 Tiësto, Charli XCX – Hot In It 84,517

:up: 72 83 Burna Boy, Ed Sheeran – For My Hand (feat. Ed Sheeran) 82,760

:up: 92 105 Alesso, Zara Larsson – Words (feat. Zara Larsson) 75,283 [*PEAK*]

:up: 94 97 Diplo, Miguel – Don’t Forget My Love 74,699

 

:right: 102 102 Tom Santa – Rainfall (Praise You) 72,076

:up: 111 124 JAE5, Dave, BNXN fka Buju – Propeller (feat. Dave & BNXN) 69,641

:up: 114 116 Beyoncé – CUFF IT 69,329

:up: 118 123 Seafret – Atlantis 66,563 [*PEAK*]

:down: 121 120 HStikkytokky, J Fado – Hold This 65,969

:up: 122 129 Beyoncé – ALIEN SUPERSTAR 65,747

:up: 123 137 Alok, Ella Eyre, Kenny Dope, Never Dull – Deep Down (feat. Never Dull) 65,463

:up: 127 128 D-Block Europe – Man In The Mirror 63,666

:up: 140 172 Lizzo – 2 Be Loved (Am I Ready) 61,234

:down: 146 139 Katie Gregson-MacLeod – complex (demo) 59,991

:down: 150 149 Cian Ducrot – All For You 59,033

:down: 158 152 Jax – Victoria’s Secret 58,385

:up: 168 192 Wet Leg – Wet Dream 56,711

:down: 173 170 AJR – World's Smallest Violin 56,093

:down: 190 177 DJ Khaled, Future, SZA – BEAUTIFUL (feat. Future & SZA) 54,135

:down: 192 186 James Arthur – Car's Outside 53,944

:up: 193 200 Fred again.. – Jungle 53,926

:down: 200 181 Kordhell – Murder In My Mind 53,144

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Apple Music Chart Update (31/08-01/09)

 

:right: 01 01 Eliza Rose & Interplanetary Criminal - B.O.T.A. (Baddest Of Them All) [Edit]

:right: 02 02 LF SYSTEM - Afraid To Feel

:right: 03 03 Burna Boy - Last Last

:right: 04 04 Elton John & Britney Spears - Hold Me Closer

:right: 05 05 David Guetta & Bebe Rexha - I'm Good (Blue)

:right: 06 06 Joel Corry & Becky Hill - HISTORY

:right: 07 07 Beyoncé - BREAK MY SOUL

:right: 08 08 Aitch & Ed Sheeran - My G

:right: 09 09 OneRepublic - I Ain't Worried

:up: 10 11 James Hype & Miggy Dela Rosa - Ferrari

 

:down: 11 10 Harry Styles - As It Was

:right: 12 12 Luude & Mattafix - Big City Life

:up: 13 16 Burna Boy - For My Hand (feat. Ed Sheeran)

:right: 14 14 Nicki Minaj - Super Freaky Girl

:right: 15 15 KSI - Not Over Yet (feat. Tom Grennan)

:down: 16 13 David Guetta, Becky Hill & Ella Henderson - Crazy What Love Can Do

:right: 17 17 Alesso & Zara Larsson - Words

:up: 18 19 Fred again.. & Swedish House Mafia - Turn On The Lights again.. (feat. Future)

:down: 19 18 Arctic Monkeys - There’d Better Be A Mirrorball

:right: 20 20 George Ezra - Green Green Grass

 

:up: 21 26 Chris Brown - Under the Influence

:down: 22 21 Nathan Dawe - 21 Reasons (feat. Ella Henderson)

:right: 23 23 Central Cee - Doja

:right: 24 24 Bru-C - No Excuses

:down: 25 22 Lizzo - About Damn Time

:up: 26 29 Oxlade - KU LO SA - A COLORS SHOW

:right: 27 27 Calvin Harris, Justin Timberlake, Halsey & Pharrell Williams - Stay With Me

:up: 28 30 Tom Grennan - All These Nights

:down: 29 28 DJ Khaled - STAYING ALIVE (feat. Drake & Lil Baby)

:down: 30 25 DJ Khaled - GOD DID (feat. Rick Ross, Lil Wayne, JAY-Z, John Legend & Fridayy)

 

:up: 31 32 Harry Styles - Late Night Talking

:down: 32 31 Sigala & Talia Mar - Stay the Night

:up: 33 36 D-Block Europe - Man In The Mirror

:up: 34 35 Tom Odell - Another Love

:down: 35 33 Tion Wayne & La Roux - IFTK

:up: 36 37 Drake - Massive

:down: 37 34 Coldplay - Yellow

:right: 38 38 Tiësto & Charli XCX - Hot In It

:up: 39 40 Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God)

:up: 40 42 Nicky Youre & Dazy - Sunroof

 

:up: 43 44 Tom Santa - Rainfall (Praise You)

:up: 44 45 Steve Lacy - Bad Habit

:up: 52 58 Lizzo - 2 Be Loved (Am I Ready)

:right: 55 55 Diplo & Miguel - Don’t Forget My Love

:down: 56 54 Asake - Terminator

:up: 58 61 Lauren Spencer Smith - Narcissist

:up: 61 63 Rosa Linn - SNAP

:up: 64 65 Meduza & James Carter - Bad Memories (feat. Elley Duhé & FAST BOY)

:up: 65 66 Lewis Thompson & David Guetta - Take Me Back

:up: 66 67 Beyoncé - CUFF IT

:down: 67 64 Eliza Rose & Interplanetary Criminal - B.O.T.A. (Baddest Of Them All)

:up: 68 71 Sam Ryder - Somebody

:right: 69 69 Beyoncé - ALIEN SUPERSTAR

:down: 70 68 JAE5 - Propeller (feat. Dave & BNXN fka Buju)

:down: 71 70 MK & BURNS - Better (feat. Teddy Swims)

:down: 73 72 Katie Gregson-MacLeod - complex (demo)

:down: 78 75 Caity Baser - X&Y

:up: 85 86 Headie One, Abra Cadabra & Bandokay - Can't Be Us

:up: 91 93 Bugzy Malone & MIST - Energy

:down: 92 82 DJ Khaled - BEAUTIFUL (feat. Future & SZA)

:up: 93 94 Mabel - LOL

:ne: 99 NE Cat Burns - ghosting

:ne: 100 NE Cian Ducrot & Ella Henderson - All For You

David/Bebe coming for that #1 spot on spotify *_* Happy to see Lizzo climbing quite nicely now and Alesso/Zara getting a new peak.

 

 

1-11 isn’t too bad of a drop for Arctic Monkeys considering it could have absolutely tanked after curiosity streams, hope it stabilises and can get a good chart position.

Like with '505' the AM song has done a lot better on Spotify than other platforms though so making the top 40 with only 3 days of tracking (one of which is the janky non-transparent estimated streams day) seems like it might be a tall order, I have a feeling it will miss out. It could climb in next week though of course depending on how well it holds up beyond the expected second day drop - failing that this may be a rare case of a midweek release actually making a difference between peaking in the top 40 or not. (Although it could have another chance on the week of the album release anyway).

 

Cool to see Eliza getting a #1 Spotify peak, I wondered if it might end up never getting there despite obviously being #1 combined for a while already (that happened to 'Old Town Road' iirc).

 

Also I finally heard that Chris Brown song the other day and I'm rather confused about how it's blown up, it doesn't sound much like a hit to me (not sure what part of it has gone viral on TikTok, nothing really jumped out to me as an obviously viral moment). It's not the worst thing I've ever heard from him but not one I'm in a rush to hear again either, it's a bit of an all vibe no substance type of song and the vibe doesn't even really hit, kind of like Doja Cat's 'Streets' I guess but like 1% as good.

NMF - Arctic Monkeys have also been added quite high to HHUK

 

1. Arctic Monkeys

2. Sigala/David Guetta/Sam Ryder

3. Dermot Kennedy

4. Ari Lennox/Summer Walker

5. YUNGBLUD

6. TSHA ft. Clementine Douglas

7. Giggs

8. The 1975

9. Ava Max

10. S Dog

Meanwhile, on Apple's HHUK equivalent "Today's Top Hits": The 1975 have been added at #6, Dermot Kennedy at #12, Sigala/Guetta/Sam Ryder at #14 & Arctic Monkeys at #15
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