June 3, 20241 yr Two members defected from the Conservatives in 2014 and held their seats for UKIP in by-elections. In the 2015 General Election one of them (Douglas Carswell) held his seat. He later resigned from UKIP following the Brexit vote and stood down as an MP ahead of the 2017 election. Ah ok; I must’ve been in ignorant bliss and wanting to believe Farage’s party has never won a seat :lol:
June 3, 20241 yr Author Farage returning to the fray will undoubtedly make this a more unpleasant election to follow sadly. To be honest I'm likely to not follow it as in depth as I otherwise would have if he's going to be turning up at leadership debates.
June 3, 20241 yr The Lib Dem’s are seemingly just going into this election to try and stay in the headlines with these daily stunts aren’t they?
June 4, 20241 yr So who is going to be watching this evening’s TV debate? :kink: Watch Sunak Gaslight and lie for an hour... i'm good thanks :lol: Edited June 4, 20241 yr by ElectroBoy
June 4, 20241 yr Author So who is going to be watching this evening’s TV debate? :kink: Definitely not me.
June 4, 20241 yr I will be watching as I like a robust debate where they have no where to hide. One reason why its better to have some debates with only the 2 main contenders to be PM debating. Couldnt find STV on my sky box lastnyt to watch the Scottish debate.
June 4, 20241 yr I will be watching as I like a robust debate where they have no where to hide. One reason why its better to have some debates with only the 2 main contenders to be PM debating. Couldnt find STV on my sky box lastnyt to watch the Scottish debate. Glad I’m not the only one on here. :lol: though I’m sure I’ll be raging at it at some point. :P
June 4, 20241 yr Re: TV debate One senior Labour figure said Sir Keir Starmer was "the country’s former chief prosecutor who will put 14 Tory years in the dock". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-69088663 :cheeseblock:
June 4, 20241 yr Hate Farage but that's counter productive in gaining him stmaothy votes and just encourages abuse of politicians on all side.
June 4, 20241 yr I'm no Farage fan but it's just more publicity for him and I don't think throwing things at politicians is a good thing, regardless of who they are.
June 4, 20241 yr It's very funny though. We used to be a proper country re: eggings in the 80s. Honestly while in previous elections he'd creep me out and stunts like this indeed wouldn't help, now he's an irrelevance and will only take votes off the dying Tories. A problem for Clacton and going to be an annoying loudmouth for a bit longer but he'll just cannibalise the right vote now so I haven't been dooming about him.
June 4, 20241 yr I will quote what I said five years ago the last time that "milkshaking" became a thing, as it still holds up (unfortunately even more so now, given that there's been a murder of another MP during the last parliament sitting). Firstly, whilst I violently disagree with the politics of Tommy Robinson & Carl Benjamin, I am utterly, totally opposed to throwing projectiles in their direction, for many reasons. Firstly, it gives them a sense of edginess, a feeling of taboo breaking, that they are saying things that "the establishment" don't want them so say. Their type use these incidents to rally their base, so resisting them in a physical way will only help their cause. I am also troubled that we are normalising such attacks on individuals, and in many cases this cheerleading is being led by those who really should know better. Without naming names, like Owen Jones for example, we've seen people rightly condemn physical attacks on Remainers in the past few months, yet when these physical attacks are against those they dislike, it suddenly becomes a laughing matter (and of course, let's not forget we've seen an MP being murdered in the past few years). And to anyone who may disagree with my point by saying "but it's only milkshake". You're right. This time it is. Note that this occured a few weeks before Farage's last "milkshaking" in the run up to the European Elections in 2019 which is why I didn't mention him. And what happened then? The Brexit Party went from nowhere to winning the European Elections. Also, the same year someone lobbed an egg at Jeremy Corbyn. He got 28 days in jail. And rightly so.
June 4, 20241 yr Hate Farage but that's counter productive in gaining him stmaothy votes and just encourages abuse of politicians on all side. Nope. He's fash. Don't tolerate fash. He destroyed this country with brexshit. It eill be very very hard to recober from that.
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