Thought that was pretty decent today. Both Chrissie and Cindy getting humanising moments (though there was still too much OTT villain Chrissie.)

And Mo has been back one episode and there were no fewer than 3 jokes about her underwear 🤢

And all 3 of those jokes were within 2 minutes!

I did like today's episode though, felt a tad more business as usual but that's probably because Bryan Kirkwood wrote it.

Oh Vicki/Chrissie felt a bit weak but at least it happened. Cindy/Chrissie was iconic though.

Big lols at Chrissie being prepared to ring the police on Jake in one breath and then leaving with him in the next.

I'd only just realised when Zack said about it being a year since Martin that the Jasmine reveal is the 'anniversary' story.

How have they not give Jasmine one likeable quality over the past few months? One act of kindness? I honestly am not invested in her proving her ‘innocence’ and would be perfectly happy if this was the end of her character.

She doesn't embody any of the iconic slater traits either, I cba with her at all

1 hour ago, T Boy said:

How have they not give Jasmine one likeable quality over the past few months? One act of kindness? I honestly am not invested in her proving her ‘innocence’ and would be perfectly happy if this was the end of her character.

Ya i would be happy for her to go aswell plus i think Oscar has more potential been away from her as i really like his character and think there is so much more potential in him.

Its hard to see what direction they will go with Zoe when she is free, also not sure if the fans will really buy into either as her return story so far hasnt exactly gone down well with the fans.

Weirdest moment tonight was when they put Many Rivers To Cross on in The Vic and none of the cast appeared to know any of the words they were supposed to be singing along to! 🤣

And...

"I'm going to shop you to the police for murder."

"Oh please don't... Marry me instead."

"Go on then..."

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Jasmine is the best part of the story she needs to hang around for a while IMHO

Jasmine's just awful, and saying Kat screams, which we never saw before, to have her do it, and then hqve her come back from central London on a milk float, was just ... no. She's really bad

10 hours ago, 777666jason said:

Jasmine is the best part of the story she needs to hang around for a while IMHO

I’d love to hear your thoughts on this. I can’t actually find anything for her to I’m intrigued by those who can. I think she’s a good actor but that’s as far as it goes. The character herself is horrific and paper thin with no tangible likeable qualities. It’s like they think her being blood related to Kat is enough for us (and Kat) to root for her but that’s just bad writing.

26 minutes ago, T Boy said:

I’d love to hear your thoughts on this. I can’t actually find anything for her to I’m intrigued by those who can. I think she’s a good actor but that’s as far as it goes. The character herself is horrific and paper thin with no tangible likeable qualities. It’s like they think her being blood related to Kat is enough for us (and Kat) to root for her but that’s just bad writing.

I think she plays the part really well, troubled , doesnt fit in sticks out like a sore thumb literally all qualities youd expect from someone who has grown up not knowing their real family

1 hour ago, 777666jason said:

I think she plays the part really well, troubled , doesnt fit in sticks out like a sore thumb literally all qualities youd expect from someone who has grown up not knowing their real family

I guess but she doesn’t seem to have one positive personality trait. She’s never even been that kind to Oscar unless she’s trying to get something from him.

I mean Zoe herself is pretty horrendous but at least they had her caring for Mini Mo.

Just now, T Boy said:

I guess but she doesn’t seem to have one positive personality trait. She’s never even been that kind to Oscar unless she’s trying to get something from him.

I mean Zoe herself is pretty horrendous but at least they had her caring for Mini Mo.

Isn't that the point though she isn't supposed to be likeable yes very troubled though

I dunno I wouldnt even say thats a good thing with zoe, Michelle Ryan has definitely destroyed the original legacy of zoe with this return

2 hours ago, T Boy said:

I’d love to hear your thoughts on this. I can’t actually find anything for her to I’m intrigued by those who can. I think she’s a good actor but that’s as far as it goes. The character herself is horrific and paper thin with no tangible likeable qualities. It’s like they think her being blood related to Kat is enough for us (and Kat) to root for her but that’s just bad writing.

I think her qcting is atrocious as well!

Jasmine has to have some endearing qualities, she can be a bratty, troubled teenager who is filled with anger and revenge but we should also get a glimpse of who she is without that - the opportunity is there with Oscar and the Truemans if she isn't going to fit in with the Slaters.

Think of all the iconic "villain" types of the past, Janine and Suki in particular - both have done terrible things and were just straight up nasty at times but they still had good moments. I genuinely think this new EP just can't write anything or anyone with depth or complexity

Michael, you think everyone’s acting is atrocious 😂

Zoe’s original legacy was overblown anyway. She wasn’t that likeable a character, she just ended up in two massive stories the latter of which had people feeling sorry for her. If anyone’s original legacy has been destroyed, it’s Anthony. He was never the most dynamic character but he was never the villain he suddenly was.

Jasmine, however, has kind of only been a villain but it’s clear the writers want us to root for her. There have been some lines about how it was a good thing she killed Anthony and so on. But, like Zoe in the initial return, we’re meant to feel sorry for these things happening to her but all she does is use people and be nasty to them. She’s never even treated Oscar well.

They also haven’t bothered delving into why she’s like this. Ok, they’ve got the ‘abandoned at birth’ angle but we haven’t seen why that was so bad for her. The opportunities to show that she’s suffered some sort of abuse have been there but haven’t been utilised. We met her adoptive mother but I can’t really remember anything about that episode already. It’s just the awful soap cliche that only your blood family can care for you properly. Everything is so vague, does she know her brother? Were they adopted together, did she know she was a twin? There are so many GAPs.

She is a character who appears to be as paper thin as the plot. The only good thing in this story has been Sam’s contributions and they’ve been few and far between.

I’m staying in Cardiff this week and have just been to watch 2:22. A Ghost Story at the New Theatre starring James Bye almost a year to the day he finished at Eastenders!

Really enjoyed it and I still feel like killing Martin off was a mistake.

"I get PTSD every time I see steps"

Okay Cindy, you were having a such a good week as well x

Well my money was on Max or Cindy having Jasmine’s phone so I was at least partially correct.

Still think they should just cut their losses and introduce the brother instead though.

3 hours ago, lewistgreen said:

"I get PTSD every time I see steps"

What did Lee, Claire, H, Lisa and Faye ever do to her?