December 20, 20241 yr I’d rather Stop The Cavalry got Christmas #1. Shame it got stopped from Christmas #1 in 1980 I'd definitely be up for that. The song was still widely played at Xmas 20+ years ago but seems to have all but disappeared in recent years sadly. I can remember back in 2000 when I worked on a deli it was played over the shops speakers and the 6 of us serving on the counter spontaneously started marching up and down whilst we served our customers (possibly not the wisest idea in the close vicinity of mechanical ham slicers...) but I can't imagine anyone doing that nowadays and can't imagine it even gets publicly played much now.
December 20, 20241 yr New entries and new peaks outside the top 40: 55. Mark Ambor - Run Rudolph Run (+5) 57. Laufey - Santa Baby (+25) 62. Frank Sinatra - Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas (+13) 66. Kesha - Holiday Road (+19) more importantly, Cher is once again in the top 65 :cheeseblock:
December 20, 20241 yr I'd definitely be up for that. The song was still widely played at Xmas 20+ years ago but seems to have all but disappeared in recent years sadly. I can remember back in 2000 when I worked on a deli it was played over the shops speakers and the 6 of us serving on the counter spontaneously started marching up and down whilst we served our customers (possibly not the wisest idea in the close vicinity of mechanical ham slicers...) but I can't imagine anyone doing that nowadays and can't imagine it even gets publicly played much now. We play it loads on our local radio station. Probably our top Christmas song aside from Last Christmas :)
December 20, 20241 yr R1 seem to refuse to play every anti government song that goes top 40 Don’t bite the hand that feeds you
December 20, 20241 yr Author R1 seem to refuse to play every anti government song that goes top 40 They have to be politically impartial so yes, that's exactly what they do.
December 20, 20241 yr R1 seem to refuse to play every anti government song that goes top 40 Radio can't play anything political unless it's "justified by context". Playing a song explicitly about the government's treatment of pensioners and complaining about immigrants at 4pm during a hits showcase would not be deemed suitable. In addition, the BBC is forced to be impartial so by law cannot appear to have bias towards any political party. In other words if they play an anti-government track they'll get in a right pickle.
December 20, 20241 yr Does anyone of you think there will be a high profile campaign next year to stop Wham making it three in a row?
December 20, 20241 yr Wham getting the headlines and news app notifications to everyone's mobile devices... like it's a huge moment of news. :rolleyes: Most of us saw this coming and it's not a shock.
December 20, 20241 yr Does anyone of you think there will be a high profile campaign next year to stop Wham making it three in a row? Even if there is, there's no way this year will be the last Christmas that Wham are the Christmas #1. The real question is how many years in the future will they manage to claim before the chart rules are changed again.
December 20, 20241 yr Author Wham getting the headlines and news app notifications to everyone's mobile devices... like it's a huge moment of news. :rolleyes: Most of us saw this coming and it's not a shock. But to be fair, not many will have been following the midweeks like us chart nerds.
December 20, 20241 yr Does anyone of you think there will be a high profile campaign next year to stop Wham making it three in a row? Doubt it. It goes in waves. X-factor, Ladbaby, Wham. Who knows what will be next. Maybe it’ll be the Amazon exclusive every year once every home has an Alexa
December 20, 20241 yr Does anyone of you think there will be a high profile campaign next year to stop Wham making it three in a row? Could be. It could involve Jona Lewie, Pogues, Mariah Carey and the non Christmas song that will be #1 at the time of the run up to next years Christmas Radio can't play anything political unless it's "justified by context". Playing a song explicitly about the government's treatment of pensioners and complaining about immigrants at 4pm during a hits showcase would not be deemed suitable. In addition, the BBC is forced to be impartial so by law cannot appear to have bias towards any political party. In other words if they play an anti-government track they'll get in a right pickle. Like they ignored the Kunts when they made songs about Boris Johnson and Prince Andrew
December 20, 20241 yr That's a brilliant idea! Let's keep modifying the charts beyond all recognition. I agree that if anything it needs simplifying, rather than adding yet another layer of complexity. I think as the chart gets more and more complicated it gets harder and harder for the average member of the public to even understand what any of it represents, which means it gets less and less relevant to them. In my opinion the whole thing needs a rethink. I wonder if the rethink needs to come from the streaming companies end. Keep separate stats for the single version and the album track version. The album track version counts only to the album chart, the single version counts only to the singles chart. That way a new big album release won't monopolise the top 10-20 places of the singles chart, and a new popular single doesn't have to be artificially deducted after the fact from an album's streaming total. Also a catalogue track like the many Xmas songs or Mr Brightside is more likely to be on streaming as a track on a studio album or compilation album than as as a stand alone single track, so that would also temper most vintage tracks from swamping the singles chart, unless they were being actively repromoted. For current artists and songs the streaming companies algorithms could ensure that casual searchers stumble upon the single version first unless they actively search for the name of the album. And maybe let all streams count equally again, whether audio or video and whether paid or free. Maybe also turn the metric on its head and convert physical and download sales into an equivalent number of streams so that the entire metric is streams rather than sales, which would surely be more relevant to the young demographic crucial to the charts. The current teens and twenties something clearly love music as the ones I know rarely take their wireless earbuds out, yet they also have zero interest in the charts as at this stage the way it works is becoming impenetrable to people that haven't spent a decade or more in a forum like this. Edited December 20, 20241 yr by DanChartFan
December 20, 20241 yr Last Christmas sells 59,426 units this year to achieve Christmas number 1 compared to 61,784 last year. Two days further away from Christmas though.
December 20, 20241 yr I’d rather Stop The Cavalry got Christmas #1. Shame it got stopped from Christmas #1 in 1980 Were it not for the death of John Lennon Stop the Cavalry would have made no.1, but not in Christmas week. Not that this song was ever intended to be a Christmas song anyway. It's an anti-war song describing wars down the ages that had been no.1 in France the previous summer. There s only one line in the song that is festive - 'Wish I was I was at home for Christmas'. Edited December 20, 20241 yr by Col1967
December 20, 20241 yr Were it not for the death of John Lennon Stop the Cavalry would have made no.1, but not in Christmas week. Not that this song was ever intended to be a Christmas song anyway. It's an anti-war song describing wars down the ages that had been no.1 in France the previous summer. There s only one line in the song that is festive - 'Wish I was I was at home for Christmas'. It was the death of John Lennon that stopped the cavalry from getting Christmas #1
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