52 minutes ago, GreyAsh said:

I like it for its nostalgic, singalong qualities. Whenever I hear it in a public place, such as the club, it always gets everyone going.

But I agree – it’s not one of Kylie‘s best singles. I prefer its AA side ‘All I Wanna Do Is Make You Mine’

It still gets played in a club 40 years later??

2 hours ago, Steve201 said:

And yet the best song won that year you have to agree 😃

One of my best friends has that as his birth #1 and loathes the fact

3 hours ago, JosephCarey said:

I said it before but disliking the song Together for Palestine have released is totally fine, I'd rather this debate didn't turn political, and it's a very good cause, so please let's avoid any negativity surrounding that (and if you feel negatively about the cause, you may, once again, be on the wrong forum).

That said, there's also nothing wrong with anyone who wants Kylie to be #1! It doesn't mean you can't support the cause of Together for Palestine, without investing in a song you may not enjoy.

Is it political though, joseph?

5 minutes ago, Steve201 said:

It still gets played in a club 40 years later??

If you go to nights run by ‘Cheer Up’ then yes. On several nights a year, that’s the last song they play.

1 minute ago, Allllly said:

Is it political though, joseph?

Give it a rest. You attacked me for simply saying the song was rubbish which it is! I think it's a fantastic cause but I don't have to like the actual song which to me is dreary and in my personal opinion they could of done so much more to make it more thought provoking and relevant to the UK (Given they're trying for a UK Christmas number one) in the lyrics to make people stop and think about the horrors going on during the festive period especially where alot of people over indulge in food / gifts etc...

When the song is played on Radio what message is it sending? It's just my personal opinion but they could of done so much more.

Edited yesterday at 10:151 day by Mr. C. Joel

Why are Wham still favourites at the bookies even after the official chart midweek update?

2 minutes ago, Mr. C. Joel said:

Give it a rest. You attacked me for simply saying the song was rubbish which it is! I think it's a fantastic cause but I don't have to like the actual song which to me is dreary and in my personal opinion they could of done so much more to make it more thought provoking and relevant to the UK (Given they're trying for a UK Christmas number one) in the lyrics to make people stop and think about the horrors going on during the festive period where alot of people over indulge etc...

When the song is played on Radio what message is it sending? It's just my personal opinion but they could of done so much more.

Ah, gotcha. Makes sense. You feel as though it needs to be more relevant to the UK. So, you want to remove the Palestinian artists singing in their own language?

Apologies if I’ve misunderstood. However, I am genuinely curious as to what you’d have preferred they did? If you were in charge, how would you personally make it more relevant to the UK, whilst keeping the songs entire message? Important to note that this is a reimagined Palestinian classic.

I’m not attacking or arguing with you, I’m just genuinely curious.

In terms of the Palestine song , checked it out yeah it's not the greatest song but it's also not as awful as people are making out 😅

I do think some people are being overly harsh on it when looking around the forum there are actually plenty of people that do enjoy it

Edited yesterday at 10:261 day by 777666jason

5 minutes ago, Allllly said:

Ah, gotcha. Makes sense. You feel as though it needs to be more relevant to the UK. So, you want to remove the Palestinian artists singing in their own language?

Apologies if I’ve misunderstood. However, I am genuinely curious as to what you’d have preferred they did? If you were in charge, how would you personally make it more relevant to the UK, whilst keeping the songs entire message? Important to note that this is a reimagined Palestinian classic.

I’m not attacking or arguing with you, I’m just genuinely curious.

I've no doubt that it's a Palestinian classic, but given that it's not most people's first language in the UK, I think it's hard for the general public to relate to what they're singing about in the lyrics. Also it's not a terrible song but personally I didn't find it very memorable.

9 minutes ago, Allllly said:

Ah, gotcha. Makes sense. You feel as though it needs to be more relevant to the UK. So, you want to remove the Palestinian artists singing in their own language?

Apologies if I’ve misunderstood. However, I am genuinely curious as to what you’d have preferred they did? If you were in charge, how would you personally make it more relevant to the UK, whilst keeping the songs entire message? Important to note that this is a reimagined Palestinian classic.

I’m not attacking or arguing with you, I’m just genuinely curious.

Stop straw manning what people are saying, this is a forum about charts not lecturing. Take your virtue signalling elsewhere.

10 minutes ago, chartdj1 said:

Why are Wham still favourites at the bookies even after the official chart midweek update?

Kylie fell from 5 - 16 last week. Amazon Exclusives tail off during the week (Perhaps not so much this week though) so I guess they still think Wham! is more likely.

2 minutes ago, jayson1982 said:

Stop straw manning what people are saying, this is a forum about charts not lecturing. Take your virtue signalling elsewhere.

The song is sitting at number 5 on the "check notes" midweek charts they are allowed to discuss it just as much as any song on the charts

Scared to post the link cos you know, but the extended and instrumental versions can now be downloaded on Kylie’s webstore.

Will be an incentive to those who can’t access Amazon.

16 minutes ago, Allllly said:

Ah, gotcha. Makes sense. You feel as though it needs to be more relevant to the UK. So, you want to remove the Palestinian artists singing in their own language?

Apologies if I’ve misunderstood. However, I am genuinely curious as to what you’d have preferred they did? If you were in charge, how would you personally make it more relevant to the UK, whilst keeping the songs entire message? Important to note that this is a reimagined Palestinian classic.

I’m not attacking or arguing with you, I’m just genuinely curious.

Maybe you should of lead with this before attacking me. In all honestly I haven't a clue as I've said it would have been nice if they did something which appealed to the masses in the UK with something thought provoking so when people heard the song on radio they could actually understand it and take something away from it AKA change someone's mind or make people google / question / research what's going on.

I also never said they should remove the artists or the Palestinian language they could have just made this a section of the song.

I'm sure the words are beautiful but I haven't a clue what they're singing so it kind of proves my point that it's not really achieving anything but getting some downloads and raising some money which isn't a bad thing but I always think charity songs should send clear messages which actually stop and make people engage or make them relatable.

I'm sorry but I just don't like the song and I do think it's awful it's Christmas too and personally I favour more uplifting songs rather than something depressive :/

Edited yesterday at 10:411 day by Mr. C. Joel

Haven’t looked back at previous charts but is it normal for this many non-festive songs to be in the charts - I feel like at most points the majority of the Top 40 is taken up with them at this stage?

Just now, ___∆___ said:

Haven’t looked back at previous charts but is it normal for this many non-festive songs to be in the charts - I feel like at most points the majority of the Top 40 is taken up with them at this stage?

Yeah it's very normal as Christmas day falls next week you always get less non Christmas songs on the charts the week after

24 minutes ago, chartdj1 said:

Why are Wham still favourites at the bookies even after the official chart midweek update?

I guess on the basis of it Wham are #1 on Apple, Spotify and Amazon and the video is #1 on YT, they have 44 versions available for 59p on iTunes as well as physicals.

So if they are using that as part of their metrics can see why they still have them as the favourites.

The Kylie data is a lot less visible too - store and Amazon downloads, same for the physicals.

27 minutes ago, Allllly said:

Ah, gotcha. Makes sense. You feel as though it needs to be more relevant to the UK. So, you want to remove the Palestinian artists singing in their own language?

Apologies if I’ve misunderstood. However, I am genuinely curious as to what you’d have preferred they did? If you were in charge, how would you personally make it more relevant to the UK, whilst keeping the songs entire message? Important to note that this is a reimagined Palestinian classic.

I’m not attacking or arguing with you, I’m just genuinely curious.

I mean, you are the one that waded into this and said people are "tone deaf" for discussing Kylie when Together For Palestine exists let's not forget 🤷‍♀️

12 minutes ago, Mr. C. Joel said:

Maybe you should of lead with this before attacking me. In all honestly I haven't a clue as I've said it would have been nice if they did something which appealed to the masses in the UK with something thought provoking so when people heard the song on radio they could actually understand it and take something away from it AKA change someone's mind or make people google / question / research what's going on.

I also never said they should remove the artists or the Palestinian language they could have just made this a section of the song.

I'm sure the words are beautiful but I haven't a clue what they're singing so it kind of proves my point that it's not really achieving anything but getting some downloads and raising some money which isn't a bad thing but I always think charity songs should send clear messages which actually stop and make people engage or make them relatable.

I'm sorry but I just don't like the song and I do think it's awful it's Christmas too and personally I favour more uplifting songs rather than something depressive :/

I respected your reply right until the very last word: depressive… Come on…. Please just be more mindful. What’s happening in Gaza is BEYOND depressive. Please choose your words more wisely.

Just now, Allllly said:

I respected your reply right until the very last word: depressive… Come on…. Please just be more mindful. What’s happening in Gaza is BEYOND depressive. Please choose your words more wisely.

I disagree a song can still be depressive to listen to. It’s no reflection on what’s happening in Gaza.

This is a music forum I’m simply referring to the song and the song only.