4 minutes ago, chartjack2 said:

Last original and new Xmas song to be Xmas #1?

Saviour’s Day in 1990?

Could you count all the ladbaby tracks they used old melodies but the songs were all brand new

7 minutes ago, chartjack2 said:

Last original and new Xmas song to be Xmas #1?

Saviour’s Day in 1990?

Spice girls - Goodbye

Edited December 17Dec 17 by jayson1982

But yes I do agree it's trickery from Amazon, and even moreso this year when Kylie has actually been underperforming compared to past focus exclusives up to this week - almost as if Alexa was being programmed not to go to full strength on it until Christmas week. But I can't think of anybody in this country that can mobilise fanbase support quite in this way to buy multiple copies as Kylie can. Hence why I put that bet on, as I know what Kylie fans are like. I'm one of them, I've got a flat full of her stuff 🤣

On 04/11/2025 at 23:07, gooddelta said:

The physical CD singles should be released on Christmas week! Alexa plus Kylie's devoted fanbase and a cause worth fighting for (she never had a Christmas No.1) would be quite a force.

Lewis Capaldi maybe could also do the same kind of thing, as he has demonstrated on so many occasions that he is a physical force, and it wouldn't surprise me to see him do it in the next couple of years. But apart from that, unless Amazon really go rogue, Alexa streams enough won't ever be enough to get a song past Wham! on Christmas week without some sort of pure sales backup (which is very hard to mobilise) so I don't see which other acts are going to be capable of achieving such a feat. I should imagine the OCC won't have much to worry about this year, particularly as Kylie is a national treasure, so I doubt the media are going to turn on her for getting to No.1 in some unscrupulous manner. If it keeps happening year after year then sure it will be a major issue, but I don't see it.

Was Mr Blobby a Xmas song?

Die Hard IS a Xmas movie but Stay Another Day / 2 Become 1 aren’t Christmas songs IMO

52 minutes ago, gooddelta said:

SayHey will have an industry mole among its members.

Back in 2019/20 when Ellie got the No.1 after Christmas I was dead against the Alexa trickery - and I even was one of the probably very few people to pay to download River on Amazon myself when it came out as I like it, but let’s be honest barely anyone else did and it felt unfair.

I don’t care as much anymore for three reasons:

1) XMAS is at least somewhat popular

2) I hate the same song being Christmas No.1 every year and it’s nice to have a battle - now if it was stopping a single that had never been there before that was organically popular then I might not be siding with Kylie

3) Spotify are almost as bad as Amazon forcing Kylie onto people with their playlist position choices dominating the charts in almost the order they set. Are we really supposed to believe that Wizzard is suddenly only the 22nd most popular Christmas song in this country behind a load of crooners that never charted here before? I dare them to switch Bobby Helms’ position with Wizzard (which is down in the 60s!) on the Christmas Hits playlist next year and see what happens

100% agree with this.

I dare them to switch Ariana and Leona’s placements around, or Leona and Brenda. Then we’d see One More Sleep pushing the top 5 next year.

Yes realised I read wrong.

and Goodbye definitely isn’t a Xmas song hahaha

Some of the LadBaby ones are but they’re all covers tbh

What number is Cher's DJ Play a Christmas Song?

4 minutes ago, StephenN18 said:

What number is Cher's DJ Play a Christmas Song?

Not top 40, would be in the update if it were!

1 hour ago, Vülker said:

I think I got this list right, but Kylie's "XMAS" will be only the second yearly "focus track" Amazon Original to go #1, and of course the first to go #1 on the Christmas chart:

• 2018 - Katy Perry - Cozy Little Christmas - #56 (hit #23 the following week, peaked at #22 the following year)

• 2019 - Ellie Goulding - River - #11 (hit #1 the following week)

• 2020 - Jess Glynne - This Christmas - #4 (peaked at #3 the following week)

• 2021 - George Ezra - Come On Home for Christmas - #10 (peaked at #8 the following week)

• 2022 - Lizzo - Someday at Christmas - #15 (peaked at #8 the following week)

• 2023 - Sam Ryder - You're Christmas to Me - #2 (repeaked at #2 the following week)

• 2024 - Tom Grennan - It Can't Be Christmas - #4 (peaked at #3 the following week)

2022 was a strange one - a remix of Stormzy’s ‘Firebabe’ was the main one pushed in the UK.

37 minutes ago, Mr. C. Joel said:

They have they released a picture disc, snowflake white vinyl, Black Standard vinyl and CD single (Released on the 5th December this year) No one really bothered buying because they sold 6k physicals last year for the 40th Anniversary so they were just repressed for this year. Kylie will more than likely sell more, Andrew also did a signing event in London for fans (Either these were excluded or hardly anyone turned up).

I think they'd be allowed if they were bought first, then Andrew signed them. It's a technicality, but they can't be offered as signed to begin with and the event would have to let you bring previously purchased items to swerve the risk of the charts company voiding all sales.

I'm not sure if Wham or George have an active enough fanbase motivated enough to buy another set of physicals year on year. I mean, most of the fanbase must be in their fifties and it was hard enough trying to convince them the value in buying both a CD1 and a CD2 back in the 90s (or my dad "why do you buy singles when you already have the album?").

That said, this is the most invested in a #1 singles chart battle I've been in a long long time. The last 15 years I've been more stressed about whether a song could register in the top 100 never mind hit the top spot.

So if I'm reading that right Kylie has increased her lead?

Far from guaranteed but she's in the box seat now to claim the Christmas #1 I feel.

I believe, if Xmas hits 50K units in a single week, in the singles chart, it will be the first time since Can’t Get You Out Of My Head in September 2001.

Also, I think, if this does indeed reach #1 - only The Beatles and Kylie would be the only artists to have #1 singles in a physical media dominant world, and the digital/streaming dominating world in the UK.

If Xmas is top 3 (it will be) only Kylie and Cliff Richard will have achieved top 3 singles in 5 consecutive decades.

Some chart facts (I hope they are) that I would love to be picked up on in the commentary….

Edited December 17Dec 17 by Knightr634

1 minute ago, Knightr634 said:

I believe, if Xmas hits 50K units in a single week, in the singles chart, it will be the first time since Can’t Get You Out Of My Head in September 2001.

Also, I think, if this does indeed reach #1 - only The Beatles and Kylie would be the only artists to have #1 singles in a physical media dominant world, and the digital/streaming dominating world in the UK.

If Xmas is top 3 (it will be) only Kylie and Cliff Richard will have achieved top 3 singles in 5 consecutive decades.

Some chart facts (I hope they are) that I would love to be picked up on in the commentary….

'In Your Eyes', 'Love at First Sight' and 'All the Lovers' also had weeks above 50k.

Just now, Liam.k. said:

'In Your Eyes', 'Love at First Sight' and 'All the Lovers' also had weeks above 50k.

Ok scratch that one out lol

This has been an exciting week. Just what the charts needed. There is money in Christmas tracks even if they don't chart so highly right away (Kelly Clarkson and Leona Lewis).

I remember 10 years ago we were talking about the last great Christmas Song being Mariah's. Now there is a whole new canon of them with Kelly, Leona, Ariana, Coldplay and Ed Sheeran.

Edited December 17Dec 17 by Paramore

And Cher! Don’t forget Cher!

7 hours ago, mkirilenkofan said:

Everyone is excited (for a god awful song) for Kylie but let’s all wait for the week 2 drop cos all you guys be buying this week only hahaha! Ellie 2.0

Well thats your personal opinion but whatever.. Who cares about next week , This is the Christmas week that goes down in the history books!!!

1 minute ago, Knightr634 said:

Also, I think, if this does indeed reach #1 - only The Beatles and Kylie would be the only artists to have #1 singles in a physical media dominant world, and the digital/streaming dominating world in the UK.

Technically this can apply to Wham!, Mariah Carey and Kate Bush, albeit their digital/streaming dominated #1s were released back in the physical era

Eminem, Beyoncé, Elton John, Take That (and Gary solo), Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears, Coldplay, The Black Eyed Peas and Usher have all had #1s in both the physical and digital/streaming eras (and I've only gone back as far as 2010 as I know physicals were still playing a diminishing role more or less up to then). Take the first three if we're looking at streaming specifically and not so much the download era.

2 hours ago, 777666jason said:

Not to take away from her success but if wham released as many physicals versions or other artists did they would make lots of revenue too, id say that point is a bit mute 😅

‘Moot Point’ is the proper term plus as has been said since my post and yours, Wham have also released and are promoting physical copies.