3 hours ago, rio309 said:

Will the streams still count for the chart? I don't know where the OCC gets their data from, do they just pull it from the daily charts same as us on here?

They get their data from Kantar Milward Brown I believe?

I reckon Spotify will know Arctic Monkeys' UK streaming figures for yesterday even if their charts have glitched.

4 hours ago, rio309 said:

Also wondering if there's been precedent of this before, and what happened? Did OCC somehow find out the actual streams, or use estimated streams, or just treat it as zero streams?

Yes - I believe one year several Christmas songs got their streams muddled up, and possibly ‘Rocking Around The Christmas Tree’ was combined with ‘White Christmas’ on the Spotify Chart. It didn’t seem to have a negative impact on the Official Chart.

Likewise, the Amazon chart is always really messy. For example over Christmas, Little Drummer Boy was number 1 for a long time, and for weeks at a time, ‘Last Christmas’ was absent. Neither of these, or similar occurrences, have impacted on the Official Chart.

Aperture only did 5.5M globally on Spotify yesterday

Day 2 streams on Spotify for Aperture - 608,328

Arctics back at 31

Man I Need almost back at #1 already!

Big drop as expected for Harry but still a great second day for a 5 minute song that's not hugely commercial, probably another drop tomorrow (maybe losing the #1 spot) but hopefully stabilising come Monday.

Spotify

 

01 [01] Harry Styles - Aperture (608,328)

02 [02] Olivia Dean - Man I Need (585,110)

03 [03] Dave & Tems - Raindance (516,225)

04 [04] Djo - End of Beginning (478,828)

05 [05] RAYE - Where is My Husband (447,511)

06 [06] Bruno Mars - I Just Might (368,618)

07 [10] Zara Larsson - Lush Life

11 [09] Sienna Spiro - Die on this Hill

18 [15] PinkPantheress & Zara Larsson – Stateside

22 [23] Haven - I Run

31 [RE] Arctic Monkeys – Opening Night

34 [28] The Cure - Boys Don't Cry

40 [38] Prince - Purple Rain

47 [41] Lil Uzi Vert - What You Saying

48 [57] Harry Styles - As It Was

54 [56] Fetty Wap - Trap Queen

64 [60] Sean Paul - Give It Up to Me

66 [64] Zara Larsson - Midnight Sun

68 [95] Tyla - CHANEL

89 [82] Sonny Fodera, D.O.D & Poppy Baskcomb - Think About Us

132 [139] t.A.T.u - All the Things She Said

137 [85] Harry Styles - Sign of the Times

165 [61] M Huncho - Championship

180 [109] Harry Styles - Watermelon Sugar

187 [RE] Disney & Shakira - Zoo

60% is the biggest Day 2 drop I remember, though big names seem to have often suffered a lot from curiosity streams in the last year or two.

It's a shame we won't know where Arctic were yesterday!

2 minutes ago, WhoOdyssey said:

It's a shame we won't know where Arctic were yesterday!

If it remains in the top 200 for the remaining 5 days of the week we should be able to deduce from the weekly chart

I guess when we get the weekly chart we can go back and figure out what the missing day of streams was and what position that would be (assuming it stays top 200 for the rest of the week, and also assuming the weekly chart has the same filtering rules which I am not sure if it does or not?) Very unfortunate that they just disappeared from the chart on the day that was probably their peak!

I did notice Harry fell off #1 on Apple Music quite quickly in the US and Australia (though he's still #1 here) so figured that was foreshadowing a pretty big day 2 drop on Spotify but not that it shouldn't have been expected anyway, definitely will be more telling how it holds for the remainder of the week. Am sure it has an official #1 debut in the bag already anyway (unless V-Beckz has been shifting tens of thousands of iTunes sales from her publicity ofc xo)

People who are saying that Harry‘s second day of streaming is good, I completely disagree with you. That is a massive drop, and nothing to be proud of.

It just shows that people are not enjoying the track.

I hope As It Was doesn’t get reset. We endured it enough in 2022 and we don’t want to endure it now

22 minutes ago, GreyAsh said:

People who are saying that Harry‘s second day of streaming is good, I completely disagree with you. That is a massive drop, and nothing to be proud of.

It just shows that people are not enjoying the track.

Context is everything though - if he'd had such a big drop with a song as commercial as As It Was then it'd be a problem. Aperture is distinctly less commercial and I assume this is entirely expected by Harry and his team.

Aperture’s performance was obvious from first listen and I have to assume that Harry’s second single will be the radio friendly hit because there’s no way his team or the label would’ve expected this to be a huge smash.

Not surprised at such a big drop, its not being well received in most places plus you only need to stream 30 seconds of a song to count , harry doesn't even start singing until 46 seconds in so we dont even know how many of those curiosity streams gave up half way through I know I felt like it was going on for ages myself 🤣

4 minutes ago, 777666jason said:

its not being well received in most places

I wouldn't say this at all! It's certainly getting mixed reviews online, as you'd expect, but it has a lot of love (the fanbase in particular are very on board with it, and I've seen a lot of non-fans, or at least people who were more ambivalent to him before, enjoying the song!)

WW it's even worse, nice song - not a single material for sure.

Clearly no other artist in the world could take a track like this to the top or anywhere near it because it isn't mainstream commercial. Even if it ends up being a one week No.1 I don't think it means anything in the context of the era or the success of future singles or the album. I still respect him for releasing a brave lead and not letting the label force him into something more radio friendly (which they surely would have done when they heard it).

I think any artist that is destined to remain a superstar for a long time and across different generations needs to musically evolve and some things will be less successful than others commercially but they are all important. Sign Of The Times, Lights Up, As It Was and Aperture is a remarkably diverse set of lead singles. When you're too big to fail, like Harry is currently, is exactly the right time to gamble on a lead single, because you can always release the big radio hit later. The album will sell in huge quantities regardless and you need more commercial stuff for future singles to stabilise it. Clearly if Aperture was a second or third single it would never perform as well as being a lead. It's a good tactic to get multiple big hits from an album.