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    Not me in my Simon Cowell era of trashing an act in the hope it’ll generate more sympathy votes

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    Experiment IV is my Dad's fave Kate song! Surprised its in her bottom 10 streams (well its bottom 30 🤣 - Lee's sleuthing didn't pick that up!)

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5 hours ago, Calum said:

Mowgli's Road, however, has already been submitted (and there is another version of Mowgli's Road higher) x

How embarrassing trying to be “that person” and getting corrected so publicly.

I’ll be sure not to bring this up at any point @GhouLee_J kink

(Who am I kidding, I’m on my way to text you right away to laugh at you) xoxox

I know 2 songs here!

Very cheeky (but absolutely fair play) that Adele gets to use ‘Cold Shoulder’ in this round! Lmao.

Really hope whoever sent Robyn is ok! 😣

This is defo the strongest set of songs!

01 Definite stand out

02 This was good!

03 This was good!

04 Its good, but the top 3 were better

05 This feels like is behind the pack and a bit meh in comparison - decent, but the others are defo in front

  1. Lucky mentor, great song!

  2. Fabulous new discovery, must listen to that album fully one day.

  3. The highest I have rated this person the whole contest, nice bop.

  4. Really don't get the love for this act personally but the song was OK.

  5. The lowest I have ranked this person, and kind of gutted to do so. Thought it was the obvious weaker one. 😔

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  1. Very happy to see this here, I know why it's not streamed as much as her other songs but it deserves to be

  2. Very different to the artist's other songs so it's refreshing to have it here

  3. Good production and chorus, I remember hearing it before and liking it

  4. I thought I'd enjoy this more but it's good

  5. This is also solid but the one I'm least likely to return to

Also intrigued that lots of people are picking a clear weakest in each category, as for me there's not much in it. Wondering if people mean the same songs!

Edited by gooddelta

Having slept on it, I must say I’m a bit conflicted with Mother Larsson’s choice. (Yes I’m gonna be THAT guy.. again 😂)

The category is “barely steamed on Spotify” and the rule was that it must appear in the bottom region of the artists Spotify streaming list. Zara is not “barely streamed”, in fact it’s not streamed at all!

Every other act has seemingly gone out of their way to pick an actual flop song and so Zara choice doesn’t really sit well with me and is not really in the spirit of the round.

That being said, the song was probably my favourite of the five. The question is, how do I rank it against the other 4 genuine “flops” 🤔

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I didn’t say the song must be on Spotify though. And I did already allude that it would be okay to submit something not on Spotify when Rich asked the question (which, imo, surely is more of a risk and puts someone at a likely disadvantage?) If we’re going to call Zara out then we have to call out Texas and Fontaines D.C. because it’s a clever way of getting around it. I don’t think anybody’s really gone out of their way to get a leg up. unsure

Regardless of how it’s been interpreted, it’s not specifically a ‘flops’ theme either.

11 minutes ago, GhouLee_J said:

Having slept on it, I must say I’m a bit conflicted with Mother Larsson’s choice. (Yes I’m gonna be THAT guy.. again 😂)

The category is “barely steamed on Spotify” and the rule was that it must appear in the bottom region of the artists Spotify streaming list. Zara is not “barely streamed”, in fact it’s not streamed at all!

Every other act has seemingly gone out of their way to pick an actual flop song and so Zara choice doesn’t really sit well with me and is not really in the spirit of the round.

I have to say, I kinda do very much agree with this kink

4 minutes ago, Calum said:

I didn’t say the song must be on Spotify though. And I did already allude that it would be okay to submit something not on Spotify when Rich asked the question (which, imo, surely is more of a risk and puts someone at a likely disadvantage?) If we’re going to call Zara out then we have to call out Texas and Fontaines D.C. because it’s a clever way of getting around it. I don’t think anybody’s really gone out of their way to get a leg up. unsure

Regardless of how it’s been interpreted, it’s not specifically a ‘flops’ theme either.

Not starting anything (for a change 🤭), but to come to Lee's defence...

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But yeah, stop being THAT guy @GhouLee_J 😎😂 (Love ya! ❤️)

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Well yes, I get that. But there’s wasn’t a rule stating that if the song isn’t on Spotify then it’s not acceptable, therefore people finding a way around that is entirely within the rules because it wasn’t set out.

If there were major problems with any of the songs submitted in any round I’d talk with those concerned. But otherwise I’d hope everyone votes on the quality of the music itself rather than accusing people of deliberately going against the spirit of the round/competition.

Just now, Calum said:

Well yes, I get that. But there’s wasn’t a rule stating that if the song isn’t on Spotify then it’s not acceptable, therefore people finding a way around that is entirely within the rules because it wasn’t set out.

If there were major problems with any of the songs submitted in any round I’d talk with those concerned. But otherwise I’d hope everyone votes on the quality of the music itself rather than accusing people of deliberately going against the spirit of the round/competition.

I'm just teasing. I don't really care it's just a game, (always got my 5'4 troll's back though 😂).

Also I thought it was Zara's best entry so far and my vote reflects that is all I'm saying. (I'm aware that might make me give away one of my "cryptic" rankings, apologies). ❤️

A lot of acts have b-sides and bonus tracks that aren't on Spotify, which is why I asked that question. I highly doubt most of these would be highly streamed anyway. Imo it's not much different to choosing songs under 100k, unless they are highly regarded fan favourite songs that just don't happen to have made it to Spotify for some reason.

Dear Jimmy (which I'm delighted to see!) kind of fits the latter category as it was on a popular Popjustice compilation 20 years ago and Sophie has since released it as part of two different album reissues (Make A Scene and Read My Lips). It's very popular among her fans but the stream count is only that low and 'a flop' because it only just made it to Spotify earlier this year with the latter reissue. So it's just as much a kind of loophole (being a recent "release" to Spotify for such an old track) as a Zara leak nobody has heard imo. Different people used different loopholes and power to them if they found a way!

All along I've thought you were Zara Lee but will have to rethink that now unless it's a heroic act of throwing oneself under a bus to avoid being detected 😂

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2 minutes ago, gooddelta said:

All along I've thought you were Zara Lee but will have to rethink that now unless it's a heroic act of throwing oneself under a bus to avoid being detected 😂

Not me in my Simon Cowell era of trashing an act in the hope it’ll generate more sympathy votes kink

4 minutes ago, gooddelta said:

All along I've thought you were Zara Lee but will have to rethink that now unless it's a heroic act of throwing oneself under a bus to avoid being detected 😂

Oh do not trust him one bit! 🤣 I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if this isn't some kind of double bluff!!! 😂

01 fabulous discovery! heart Really wasn't sure what she'd play this round but this was impressive.

02 one of my favourites from the album, good to see this era get some attention finally! kink

03 this is criminally underrated. Smart play from their mentor!

04 aww the low ranking doesn't reflect my thoughts on this song: one of my favourites of the songs she's played so far. Just a tough round!

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