February 25, 200817 yr Are HIT 40 UK really not skipping out songs no more that was 1 thing i found annoying because lucio didn't mention who was at the numbers so i had to wait till later on and the 2nd thing mainly which turned me off hit40uk last year was lucio for bitching about cascada saying she is compared to miss piggy :angry: :lol: :o All 40 songs! 2 or 3 new tracks per week. Commercial free Top 10. And the Top 10 albums.
February 27, 200817 yr I think the low point in the chart show came when JK and Joel played something like "top twenty British selling pop songs of the decade" a few years ago, instead of the week's 21-40! Edit: that was a one-off, but there were weeks when a good number of the bottom twenty were not played out to make up for lost time. At least now we get 90-95% of the chart played each week. Edited February 27, 200817 yr by jargon
February 27, 200817 yr I think the low point in the chart show came when JK and Joel played something like "top twenty British selling pop songs of the decade" a few years ago, instead of the week's 21-40! Oh, I Thought it was the album chart they replaced. That would have been even worse!
February 27, 200817 yr They did play the 21-40 section of the singles chart (it was the album chart that was replaced), but they cut short a lot of the songs (even some in the top 10).
February 27, 200817 yr I can remember a few years ago when they only played the new entries from 40 - 21 between 5.15 and 5.30 when they counted down the whole top 20. They played the previous week's top3 (I think) and some new releases until 4.30 and then played the album chart featuring 6 tracks up to 5.00 and then there was the retro before they moved on to the singles chart. Can't remember who was hosting the show, but I think it may have been when JK & Joel started. Edited February 27, 200817 yr by Bigger Al
February 27, 200817 yr I can remember a few years ago when they only played the new entries from 40 - 21 between 5.15 and 5.30 when they counted down the whole top 20. They played the previous week's top3 (I think) and some new releases until 4.30 and then played the album chart featuring 6 tracks up to 5.00 and then there was the retro before they moved on to the singles chart. Can't remember who was hosting the show, but I think it may have been when JK & Joel started. Must have been them - 'cos I remember Wes doing the album chart, then playing most (but not all) of the songs between 21 and 40 from 4.30 to 5.30.
February 27, 200817 yr Must have been them - 'cos I remember Wes doing the album chart, then playing most (but not all) of the songs between 21 and 40 from 4.30 to 5.30. No this wasn`t JK and JOEL it was Wes Butters. How long did he last? Just one ghastly year!!!!!! When Wes started he missed most of the 40 - 21 part, and then in the final 6 months of his reign, he did start the format, later used by JK and JOEL. Of course by then (if we lived in the right area), we switched to Mark Goodier, on the brilliant Smash Hits Chart...where downloads arrived 3 years early, by the use of requested songs, from the Box, the Hits, and Smash Hits tv. Then we had new number ones, up to 3 weeks, before the Radio one top 40. In the newspapers the headline read, "Radio One Chart Show, Become`s Chat Show, with unknown DJ Wes Butters"...The butter certainly slipped the show, right out of the ratings!! Although Independant Radio lost out too, because all 3 radio groups, broadcasted either the Hit40, Smash Hits Chart, or the dire "A" List. Edited February 27, 200817 yr by trevs
February 27, 200817 yr Not true - Wes did two years (Feb 2003 to Feb 2005) and he always had the same format: half an hour of random stuff, half an hour on the albums, half an hour on 40-21 (playing all new entries in full), then the top 20. When JK & Joel started they introduced the retro (from 5 to 5:15) followed by skimming through 40-21 in 15 minutes.
February 28, 200817 yr Not true - Wes did two years (Feb 2003 to Feb 2005) and he always had the same format: half an hour of random stuff, half an hour on the albums, half an hour on 40-21 (playing all new entries in full), then the top 20. When JK & Joel started they introduced the retro (from 5 to 5:15) followed by skimming through 40-21 in 15 minutes. Either way, still an utter load of nonsense/waste of time, that does not befit a chart show. Glad I made the switch to the Smash Hits Chart, where many weeks Mark Goodier, or Robin Banks more often than not, got 47 records into 3 hours, and no ads. I did forget that Wes Butters did 2 years, because that used to be the minimum contract, back then. Edited February 28, 200817 yr by trevs
February 28, 200817 yr To be fair to Wes Butters, he didn't have any control over the chart countdown, its format and its various features. He was basically told to do the programme in a certain way. In fact I ended up feeling sorry for him, during his last programme he gave an explanation of why the format of the show had been changed after Mark Goodier left and what he had been told to do. He actually sounded a bit upset as he explained it all! I got the impression he felt a bit upset by all the criticism when the format was not of his choosing. But the show was poor and his inability to say "Busted" ("Boosted" anyone?) made him a bit of a joke at the time... I just wish they would go back to one presenter and someone who will play it straight and not mess about with the format. Lets' have the top 40 in its entirety, the album countdown and the odd interview if needed. And finish the programme at 7pm, not be playing the number one before 6.50pm.
February 28, 200817 yr Radio 1 started playing all 40 around 1993 AFAIK - when Neil Fox took over from David Jensen and the Pepsi chart as it was at the time went from a 2 hour show playing the Top 30 to a 3 hour show with a Top 40 Radio One played the whole 40, from January 1991, when Goodier, started the show at 4.30. It grew to 3 hours in 92, when Bruno Brookes returned to host it. The Network Chart and Kid Jensen grew to a top 40, in 92 with 3 hours. The Pepsi Chart was launched in August 93, with Neil Fox, when the airplay factor, grew to a big proportion. Although the top ten, was the official Milward Brown researched one. As is today, Hit40uk and the airplay factor, is just too much, even slower moving than, the Radio One chart has become. It`s possible for Independant Radio, to broadcast a chart on a Saturday. All they have to do, is use a different compiler, play it in full, and then they would have the most up to date chart in Britain, just like the original Network Chart Show. I think that would knock Radio One, sideways!! A proper Saturday chart, is so close to Sunday`s chart, so the Independant Radio people, should go ahead, and do it. Apart from the chart on Radio One, does anyone actually bother to listen, to any other of it`s output? Radio One even seems to try to push, it`s playlist on the top 40 show. Who`s interested in their playlist? Taken in to acount, the amount of times, the Top 40, in recent weeks, missed out Amy Macdonald, but still managed to play all of Rihanna`s material, even though the songs, had been in for months!
February 29, 200817 yr I just wish they would go back to one presenter and someone who will play it straight and not mess about with the format. Lets' have the top 40 in its entirety, the album countdown and the odd interview if needed. And finish the programme at 7pm, not be playing the number one before 6.50pm. I agree - which is why I should do the chart. (My Scottish-mixed-with-Lancashire accent may be a problem, though.)
February 29, 200817 yr To be fair to Wes Butters, he didn't have any control over the chart countdown, its format and its various features. He was basically told to do the programme in a certain way. In fact I ended up feeling sorry for him, during his last programme he gave an explanation of why the format of the show had been changed after Mark Goodier left and what he had been told to do. He actually sounded a bit upset as he explained it all! I got the impression he felt a bit upset by all the criticism when the format was not of his choosing. But the show was poor and his inability to say "Busted" ("Boosted" anyone?) made him a bit of a joke at the time... I just wish they would go back to one presenter and someone who will play it straight and not mess about with the format. Lets' have the top 40 in its entirety, the album countdown and the odd interview if needed. And finish the programme at 7pm, not be playing the number one before 6.50pm. Another issue that was beyond Wes' control was that during the time he did the Chart Show, the singles chart was generally perceived to be c**p. However, album sales were at their overall highest during this time, so IMO it made sense to concentrate on the album chart more than the Chart Show does nowadays.
February 29, 200817 yr To be fair to Wes Butters, he didn't have any control over the chart countdown, its format and its various features. He was basically told to do the programme in a certain way. In fact I ended up feeling sorry for him, during his last programme he gave an explanation of why the format of the show had been changed after Mark Goodier left and what he had been told to do. He actually sounded a bit upset as he explained it all! I got the impression he felt a bit upset by all the criticism when the format was not of his choosing. But the show was poor and his inability to say "Busted" ("Boosted" anyone?) made him a bit of a joke at the time... I just wish they would go back to one presenter and someone who will play it straight and not mess about with the format. Lets' have the top 40 in its entirety, the album countdown and the odd interview if needed. And finish the programme at 7pm, not be playing the number one before 6.50pm. I agree it was the fault of R1, not the presenter. Wes was okay, it's just the format let him down.
March 1, 200817 yr If someone like Scott Mills did the show, he'd probably be able to exercise some influence over the format. As long as R1 were keen enough to get him on the show, I'm sure they'd be prepared to change the format of the show to suit him. As I've said before, the star of a chart show should be the chart, not the presenter(s). Bring back a presenter who knows about music and is interested in the chart rather than their own ego(s). That describes Scott Mills rather well :)
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