Heidi is more a member than Siobhan ever was.

 

and they are still the same band, you can still recognise one of their songs regardless of which line up its sung by. Just because they have had 2 line up changes doesn't make them any less of a success.

 

 

Heidi is more a member than Siobhan ever was.

 

and they are still the same band, you can still recognise one of their songs regardless of which line up its sung by. Just because they have had 2 line up changes doesn't make them any less of a success.

 

Lol, yeah sure okay. I should know better now than to argue with a fan on these forums over logic and fact.

 

Just one question....is Wings the same as the Beatles??? One of the members is the same after all.....

The noughties has been the most faceless decade yet - every single sub-scene has been suffocated within months by stacks of copycat acts and those who created the sub-scenes don't seem to have the talent to go on and start the next, they just fizzle out while those who copied them come in with a safer, more commercial sound that isn't all that different to what's already out there.

 

well said....

 

The noughties will be remembered, for me, for the emergence of really class crossover acts like Goldfrapp, Antony and the Johnsons, Client and Editors among others.

 

The pop acts have been too glossy, too over-produced, the indie acts too clever by half.... the innocence and naiivety of pop music seems to have died - it's all big business management teams who control music these days - and with these lot in charge, it's little wonder the 00's have been little more than a stream of radio-friendly eye-candy factory-produced fodder. Which, of course, sells by the bucketload.

:wacko: Well lets be honest....only one member has survived. They are barely the same band.

 

Yep, the Sugababes brand then...after all, they're really only as strong as their principal songwriters (and, yes, I am aware that they get lyrics credits - "Seven hours since you went away, eleven coffees, Ricki Lake on play" is testament to that).

 

I really do think the songs of the decade are going to be:

'Umbrella'

'Where Is The Love'

'Crazy'

 

Arguable 'Bleeding Love' could be here, depending on Leona's progression over the next two years.

 

So basically they are pop songs with a twist of R'n'B, this decade has had a lot of mixture between genres, and on reflection we have had some amazing songs and artists come about.

 

I don't really know though, things could be different from other people's opinions. Personally, I like indie music, and although it has a had higher prevelance in the charts recently, I still don't feel certain indie songs could be "songs of the decade".

 

 

We have had loads of BIG SELLERS EVER! Probably had more comebacks in this decade than any other decade!

 

At least you didn't say million sellers, 'cos all we've had in that category are:

 

-> It Wasn't Me - Shaggy

-> Pure And Simple - Hear'Say

-> Anything Is Possible/Evergreen - Will Young

-> Unchained Melody - Gareth Gates

-> Do They Know It's Christmas - Band Aid 20

 

And, I'm not sure about this one, Tony Christie: Is This The Way To Amarillo.

 

Therefore making a grand total of 5 million sellers in 8 years. Not that great, is it?

 

(I may have missed a couple out, but I don't think we've had 8 million sellers this century.)

At least you didn't say million sellers, 'cos all we've had in that category are:

 

-> It Wasn't Me - Shaggy

-> Pure And Simple - Hear'Say

-> Anything Is Possible/Evergreen - Will Young

-> Unchained Melody - Gareth Gates

-> Do They Know It's Christmas - Band Aid 20

 

And, I'm not sure about this one, Tony Christie: Is This The Way To Amarillo.

 

Therefore making a grand total of 5 million sellers in 8 years. Not that great, is it?

 

(I may have missed a couple out, but I don't think we've had 8 million sellers this century.)

 

Shayne Ward sold 1.1 million of That's My Goal.

Kylie passed a million with Can't Get You Out Of My Head as did Bob The Builder's Can We Fix It...and yep Tony Christie passed a million too :)

interestingly I've just compiled a tracklist of the 100 most 'classic' tracks of the decade for various reasons e.g. big sellers, long running No.1's, well remembered songs etc...I will burn the CD off on December 31st next year and I'm sure I will be making some amendments as we get some hopefully massive hits in the next two years :)

 

CD One

 

1. S Club 7-Don’t Stop Movin’

2. Shakira feat Wyclef Jean-Hips Don’t Lie

3. Britney Spears-Toxic

4. All Saints-Pure Shores

5. Scissor Sisters-I Don’t Feel Like Dancin’

6. Natasha Bedingfield-These Words

7. Mika-Grace Kelly

8. Suagababes-About You Now

9. Westlife-You Raise Me Up

10. Wheatus-Teenage Dirtbag

11. Melanie C-Never Be The Same Again

12. LeAnn Rimes-Can’t Fight The Moonlight

13. Atomic Kitten-Whole Again

14. Gabrielle-Out Of Reach

15. Pink-Get The Party Started

16. Lily Allen-Smile

17. Liberty X-Just A Little

18. Girls Aloud-Love Machine

19. Christina Aguilera-Dirrty

20. Will Young-Evergreen

 

CD Two

 

1. Kylie Minogue-Can’t Get You Out Of My Head

2. Madonna-Hung Up

3. Fragma-Toca’s Miracle

4. Eric Prydz-Call On Me

5. Spiller feat Sophie Ellis Bextor-Groovejet (If This Ain’t Love)

6. Darude-Sandstorm

7. Modjo-Lady (Hear Me Tonight)

8. DJ Sammy & Yanou feat Do-Heaven

9. Basshunter-Now You’re Gone

10. Cascada-Everytime We Touch

11. Fedde LeGrand-Put Your Hands Up For Detroit

12. Infernal-From Paris To Berlin

13. Robyn with Kleerup-With Every Heartbeat

14. Ultrabeat-Pretty Green Eyes

15. Ian Van Dahl-Castles In The Sky

16. Sonique-It Feels So Good

17. Shapeshifters-Lola’s Theme

18. Sophie Ellis-Bextor-Murder On The Dancefloor

19. Elvis vs. JXL-A Little Less Conversation

20. So Solid Crew-21 Seconds

 

CD Three

 

1. James Blunt-You’re Beautiful

2. Ronan Keating-Life Is A Rollercoaster

3. Robbie Williams-Rock DJ

4. Daniel Powter-Bad Day

5. Coldplay-Clocks

6. U2-Beautiful Day

7. Take That-Patience

8. Gorillaz-Clint Easwood

9. Snow Patrol-Chasing Cars

10. David Gray-Babylon

11. Oasis-The Importance Of Being Idle

12. Kaiser Chiefs-I Predict A Riot

13. Linkin Park & Jay-Z-Numb/Encore

14. The Killers-Mr Brightside

15. Evanescence-Bring Me To Life

16. The Fray-How To Save A Life

17. Nickelback-How You Remind Me

18. My Chemical Romance-Welcome To The Black Parade

19. Enrique Iglesias-Hero

20. Daniel Bedingfield-If You’re Not The One

 

CD Four

 

1. Rihanna feat Jay-Z-Umbrella

2. Kelis-Milkshake

3. Jamelia-Superstar

4. Blu Cantrell feat Sean Paul-Breathe

5. Gnarls Barkley-Crazy

6. Amy Winehouse-Rehab

7. Destiny’s Child-Survivor

8. Nelly Furtado-Maneater

9. Timbaland feat OneRepublic-Apologize

10. 50 Cent-In Da Club

11. Black Eyed Peas-Where Is The Love

12. Mary Mary-Shackles (Praise You)

13. R Kelly-Ignition (Remix)

14. Shaggy feat Rikrok-It Wasn’t Me

15. Mis-Teeq-Scandalous

16. Nelly feat Kelly Rowland-Dilemma

17. Outkast-Hey Ya!

18. Beyonce feat Jay-Z-Crazy In Love

19. Pussycat Dolls feat Busta Rhymes-Don’t Cha

20. Leona Lewis-Bleeding Love

 

CD Five

 

1. Eminem feat Dido-Stan

2. Justin Timberlake-SexyBack

3. Maroon 5-This Love

4. Kelly Clarkson-Since U Been Gone

5. Anastacia-Left Outside Alone

6. Blue-All Rise

7. t.A.T.u-All The Things She Said

8. Lemar-If There’s Any Justice

9. Mark Ronson feat Amy Winehouse-Valerie

10. KT Tunstall-Suddenly I See

11. McFly-Obviously

12. Gwen Stefani-What You Waiting For?

13. Duffy-Mercy

14. Mariah Carey-We Belong Together

15. Busted-Year 3000

16. Avril Lavigne-Complicated

17. Kate Nash-Foundations

18. Tony Christie-(Is This The Way To) Amarillo

19. Shayne Ward-That’s My Goal

20. Gareth Gates-Unchained Melody

I'm afraid I have to agree.

 

Any decade that has seen the death of Top Of The Pops; and the nightmarish emergence of Reality Pop TV talent shows acts (with the honourable exceptions of Will Young, Girls Aloud & to a lesser extent Darius) with muppets going out and buying what Simon Cowell tells them to buy destroying the battle for Xmas #1.

 

Also record company's are too much like businesses, so that 80-90% of acts release a successful first album before fading / falling away, as acts are not allowed to develop anymore like a Blur, a Radiohead or even a Take That did in the previous decade. All of those acts in today's climate would probably have been dropped after one album).

 

Also Radio stations in America are now awful so that it is a rarity for a non Urban/Rap track to top the Billboard charts; whilst Radio 1 have been similarly uninspired adopting the cancer of the decade with the slavish love of "personalities" and "celebrities" as DJ's ahead of people who are music fans and care about the music they are playing with it's nadir being the shameful treatment of the flagship Sunday Chart show.

 

As with all decades there is great new music around but you have to look more and more outside of the Top40 or Top75 for it:

 

For example something as new and innovative as this track below, in the late 1970s & early 1980s (pre Live Aid / Stock Aitken Waterman domination) would have been heralded for the great new music that it is by the likes of Radio 1 in the past:

 

Late of The Pier - Bears Are Coming

It is almost pointless for me to post as my feelings about this decade have been summed up above, brilliant post! Lets forget the whole 'sound like this or you're dropped' attitude some major labels have these days <_< Not to mention the fact that 'Indie' has been taken over by MAJOR labels and now you see some people are uneducated on what it actually is as they think it's the watered down $h!te major labels tag onto their POP acts so people would think they're 'cool' the thread in the Indie forum is an example of what I mean. But the fact that some bands set up their own labels nowadays and way its so easy to record a song yourself and with downloads etc. I'm glad there is still hope that being artistic through music can still live on. Though of course probably the bands that will still be talked about in 10+ years time will be actual Indie bands like The Libertines and The Strokes who brought it all back into 'fashion' in the early 2000s and of course the band who every band in the music industry should follow in terms of attitude Arctic Monkeys, you should be in it for the music rather than worrying about 'selling records' etc. then again I should also praise labels like XL and Domino with this kind of thing are one that I'm sure will be talked about more than anyone. Will Young will be probably be talked about considering he's the most famous and something actually good that came out of the unfortunate Reality TV Show boom. Amy Winehouse simply for being a memorable brilliant performer and artist, Robbie Williams will be someone a lot of people will be telling their kids about :lol: Maybe even Busted after all maybe they've had an even bigger impact than The Libertines? :lol: The kids wanted bands with instruments after them! Sugababes, yes for surviving so long and having a lot of memorable songs too!

 

The tracks may be:

 

Black Eyed Peas - Where Is The Love

Coldplay - Yellow

Shaggy - It Wasn't Me

Kaiser Chiefs - I Predict A Riot

The Killers - Mr. Brightside

Arctic Monkeys - I Bet You Look Good On The Dancefloor

Kylie Minogue - Can't Get You Out Of My Head

Gnarls Barkley - Crazy

The Strokes - Last Nite

S Club 7 - Don't Stop Movin'

James Blunt - You're Beautiful :( :lol:

Scissor Sisters - I Don't Feel Like Dancin'

Modjo - Lady

Sophie Ellis-Bextor - Murder On The Dancefloor

Snow Patrol - Chasing Cars

Eminem feat. Dido - Stan

 

Of course everyone will have their own bands and songs they'll remember but just remember that people won't remember songs or artists just because 'they sold' well, who still talks about Gareth Gates or Hear'Say NOW for example?

 

That's my take on this decade anyway.

Pretty decent tracklist there, Gooddelta.

 

Though I do think there should be more indie on there, not just because it's my preferred genre, but because it's made far more of an impact than about 2/3 of 1 cd. 'I Bet You Look Good On The Dancefloor' and 'Take Me Out' certainly deserve to be there, especially ahead of stuff like Gabrille and Lemar!

Edited March 5, 200817 yr by RabbitFurCoat

Hmm...I forgot Arctic Monkeys though I didn't even think about including Franz Ferdinand...still I had a shortlist of about 120 so I had to delete 20 tracks already...

I'm afraid I have to agree.

 

Any decade that has seen the death of Top Of The Pops; and the nightmarish emergence of Reality Pop TV talent shows acts (with the honourable exceptions of Will Young, Girls Aloud & to a lesser extent Darius) with muppets going out and buying what Simon Cowell tells them to buy destroying the battle for Xmas #1.

 

Also record company's are too much like businesses, so that 80-90% of acts release a successful first album before fading / falling away, as acts are not allowed to develop anymore like a Blur, a Radiohead or even a Take That did in the previous decade. All of those acts in today's climate would probably have been dropped after one album).

 

Also Radio stations in America are now awful so that it is a rarity for a non Urban/Rap track to top the Billboard charts; whilst Radio 1 have been similarly uninspired adopting the cancer of the decade with the slavish love of "personalities" and "celebrities" as DJ's ahead of people who are music fans and care about the music they are playing with it's nadir being the shameful treatment of the flagship Sunday Chart show.

 

As with all decades there is great new music around but you have to look more and more outside of the Top40 or Top75 for it:

 

For example something as new and innovative as this track below, in the late 1970s & early 1980s (pre Live Aid / Stock Aitken Waterman domination) would have been heralded for the great new music that it is by the likes of Radio 1 in the past:

 

Late of The Pier - Bears Are Coming

 

i agree and diagree,..lol.

 

whilst business has governed music this decade, and there has been alot of production decisions that have influenced whats been released... i reckon there has been some classics even within the top 40. and the re-invention of 'indie' (which is actually traditional pop) is something i welcome being a long time fan of guitar based pop.. ok many of it may be derivetive, but so what? if its done well then thats ok by me! i reckon the best sounds of the 60's evolved too quickly, as did the original indie sound post punk, leaving plenty of scope for new material to be produced .

 

i think 'feel good inc' and 'hey ya' for eg are damn good pop music and would have sounded good in any decade.

 

oh yeah...and i REFUSE to go along with the young here, refering to 'pop' as the light fluffy disposable manufactured sounds... pop music was played by pop groups :P

One thing I'm sure a lot of you will agree is the general sense of everything being so 'managed'. I struggle to think of many acts that have established themselves organically. Like someone has pointed out, there is little room for acts to develop. I guess the same rules apply to TV shows aswell.

The track 'Bears are Coming' added by thisispop - WOW! That's fabulous! :wub:

I honestly feel that for the most part, music has become so faceless, so corporate. I can barely think of any music that's really changed or defined the era. There's nothing particularly new or refreshing.

 

90s > 00s

 

 

interestingly I've just compiled a tracklist of the 100 most 'classic' tracks of the decade for various reasons e.g. big sellers, long running No.1's, well remembered songs etc...I will burn the CD off on December 31st next year and I'm sure I will be making some amendments as we get some hopefully massive hits in the next two years :)

 

CD One

 

1. S Club 7-Don’t Stop Movin’

2. Shakira feat Wyclef Jean-Hips Don’t Lie

3. Britney Spears-Toxic

4. All Saints-Pure Shores

5. Scissor Sisters-I Don’t Feel Like Dancin’

6. Natasha Bedingfield-These Words

7. Mika-Grace Kelly

8. Suagababes-About You Now

9. Westlife-You Raise Me Up

10. Wheatus-Teenage Dirtbag

11. Melanie C-Never Be The Same Again

12. LeAnn Rimes-Can’t Fight The Moonlight

13. Atomic Kitten-Whole Again

14. Gabrielle-Out Of Reach

15. Pink-Get The Party Started

16. Lily Allen-Smile

17. Liberty X-Just A Little

18. Girls Aloud-Love Machine

19. Christina Aguilera-Dirrty

20. Will Young-Evergreen

 

CD Two

 

1. Kylie Minogue-Can’t Get You Out Of My Head

2. Madonna-Hung Up

3. Fragma-Toca’s Miracle

4. Eric Prydz-Call On Me

5. Spiller feat Sophie Ellis Bextor-Groovejet (If This Ain’t Love)

6. Darude-Sandstorm

7. Modjo-Lady (Hear Me Tonight)

8. DJ Sammy & Yanou feat Do-Heaven

9. Basshunter-Now You’re Gone

10. Cascada-Everytime We Touch

11. Fedde LeGrand-Put Your Hands Up For Detroit

12. Infernal-From Paris To Berlin

13. Robyn with Kleerup-With Every Heartbeat

14. Ultrabeat-Pretty Green Eyes

15. Ian Van Dahl-Castles In The Sky

16. Sonique-It Feels So Good

17. Shapeshifters-Lola’s Theme

18. Sophie Ellis-Bextor-Murder On The Dancefloor

19. Elvis vs. JXL-A Little Less Conversation

20. So Solid Crew-21 Seconds

 

CD Three

 

1. James Blunt-You’re Beautiful

2. Ronan Keating-Life Is A Rollercoaster

3. Robbie Williams-Rock DJ

4. Daniel Powter-Bad Day

5. Coldplay-Clocks

6. U2-Beautiful Day

7. Take That-Patience

8. Gorillaz-Clint Easwood

9. Snow Patrol-Chasing Cars

10. David Gray-Babylon

11. Oasis-The Importance Of Being Idle

12. Kaiser Chiefs-I Predict A Riot

13. Linkin Park & Jay-Z-Numb/Encore

14. The Killers-Mr Brightside

15. Evanescence-Bring Me To Life

16. The Fray-How To Save A Life

17. Nickelback-How You Remind Me

18. My Chemical Romance-Welcome To The Black Parade

19. Enrique Iglesias-Hero

20. Daniel Bedingfield-If You’re Not The One

 

CD Four

 

1. Rihanna feat Jay-Z-Umbrella

2. Kelis-Milkshake

3. Jamelia-Superstar

4. Blu Cantrell feat Sean Paul-Breathe

5. Gnarls Barkley-Crazy

6. Amy Winehouse-Rehab

7. Destiny’s Child-Survivor

8. Nelly Furtado-Maneater

9. Timbaland feat OneRepublic-Apologize

10. 50 Cent-In Da Club

11. Black Eyed Peas-Where Is The Love

12. Mary Mary-Shackles (Praise You)

13. R Kelly-Ignition (Remix)

14. Shaggy feat Rikrok-It Wasn’t Me

15. Mis-Teeq-Scandalous

16. Nelly feat Kelly Rowland-Dilemma

17. Outkast-Hey Ya!

18. Beyonce feat Jay-Z-Crazy In Love

19. Pussycat Dolls feat Busta Rhymes-Don’t Cha

20. Leona Lewis-Bleeding Love

 

CD Five

 

1. Eminem feat Dido-Stan

2. Justin Timberlake-SexyBack

3. Maroon 5-This Love

4. Kelly Clarkson-Since U Been Gone

5. Anastacia-Left Outside Alone

6. Blue-All Rise

7. t.A.T.u-All The Things She Said

8. Lemar-If There’s Any Justice

9. Mark Ronson feat Amy Winehouse-Valerie

10. KT Tunstall-Suddenly I See

11. McFly-Obviously

12. Gwen Stefani-What You Waiting For?

13. Duffy-Mercy

14. Mariah Carey-We Belong Together

15. Busted-Year 3000

16. Avril Lavigne-Complicated

17. Kate Nash-Foundations

18. Tony Christie-(Is This The Way To) Amarillo

19. Shayne Ward-That’s My Goal

20. Gareth Gates-Unchained Melody

 

If that CD was to be released I would buy it! :w00t:

 

But One song i would put in there would be Shakira - Whenever, Wherever! I would probably exchange it with KT Tunstall - Suddenly i See! lol But thats my preferation! lol But apart from that i LIKE Every single song just about! lol

one song per artist I'm afraid John and she already has Hips Don't Lie on there :P KT will probably come off after the next 22 months of music

Surely we've had more million sellers this decade than we ever had in the 90s? Record sales are on the up (despite the majors gurning about 'illegal piracy') but the quality has gone further and further down. People said the 80's was all about big business, yuppies etc. They just simply don't compare to the stranglehold corporations have over what we're getting to and going to get to listen to. In the public domain at least, nothing to stop us trawling myspace and last.fm for new acts, but then how do you have a conversation down the pub about unknown acts like 'Ian Pike and his Funk Truckers' or 'The Chunky Teapots'?

But i love the contrasts this decade has been though, one year dominated by pop, the next dominated by indie/rock, the next dominated by hip-hop/rnb etc...

 

I disagree somewhat here - For the the last 10 years the UK music scene has been dominated by Hip-Hop and RNB. Though other genres have glanced the scene on occasion, no other genre has dominated. IMO it's time for a change, what we need now is a trance/techno and country come-backs.