About my "Releasing Someone Like You" as a single thing, I don't think people understood me properly.

 

If Someone Like You is released as a single, radio stations will play Someone Like You.

If Someone Like You is not released as a single, radio stations will play Someone Like You.

 

I'm not sure it'd be as beneficial as people think. What's the point in asking radio stations to play a song that they're already playing all the time? Ask them to play a song that they're not playing!

 

If Set Fire to the Rain is released as the 2nd single, radio stations are NOT forced to stop playing Someone Like You.

 

Someone Like You not being released as single would also not be "one of the biggest mistakes in chart history" or whatever. I don't think anybody would notice if it wasn't released. Most of the general public think it's her 2nd single anyway. A simple Google search demonstrates this. Not to mention, most times I hear Someone Like You on the radio, they refer to it as "Adele's new single".

 

The main thing the song would miss out on if it wasn't released as a single is a physical release. Radio airplay is not a problem, in the slightest. Even Heart FM are playing it.

About my "Releasing Someone Like You" as a single thing, I don't think people understood me properly.

 

If Someone Like You is released as a single, radio stations will play Someone Like You.

If Someone Like You is not released as a single, radio stations will play Someone Like You.

 

I'm not sure it'd be as beneficial as people think. What's the point in asking radio stations to play a song that they're already playing all the time? Ask them to play a song that they're not playing!

 

If Set Fire to the Rain is released as the 2nd single, radio stations are NOT forced to stop playing Someone Like You.

 

Someone Like You not being released as single would also not be "one of the biggest mistakes in chart history" or whatever. I don't think anybody would notice if it wasn't released. Most of the general public think it's her 2nd single anyway. A simple Google search demonstrates this. Not to mention, most times I hear Someone Like You on the radio, they refer to it as "Adele's new single".

 

The main thing the song would miss out on if it wasn't released as a single is a physical release. Radio airplay is not a problem, in the slightest. Even Heart FM are playing it.

 

Errr, it would miss out on a video too which could bring it to a far wider audience...

 

If SFTTR was released as the 2nd single (or anything else on the album), especially when radio will be all over SLY for the next couple of months, there's a good chance it would be overlooked and probably underperform.

If SFTTR was released as the 2nd single (or anything else on the album), especially when radio will be all over SLY for the next couple of months, there's a good chance it would be overlooked and probably underperform.

 

Yeah, exactly. Sending out another "single" now or in the next few weeks would just produce such a messy situation - some stations would ignore it and carry on playing SLY, while other stations would drop SLY to start playing the new one (as big as Adele is right now, stations ain't gonna be clearing their schedules just so they can repeatedly play two songs by the same artist!).

 

Plus, what's the hurry? They can (and should) keep the album's campaign going for months yet. For instance, she's clearly going to have a lot of appeal to older audiences which have such a big impact on the charts towards the end of the year, so I'd be amazed if the label doesn't hold back one of the most commercial songs on the album for Christmas...

Her chart run may have been adversely affected by SB and Grammys, fair enough, but in her second week she dropped from the biggest first week sales by a female artist ever to #3 and then to #10 the next week. That's not 'impressive' any way you spin it IMO. It's just another frontloaded fanbase hit as it has been in every single other country. Not even the video saved it, it gave it a boost for a very short time and it's now falling again, because the general public is clearly not interested in HIAM.

 

I don't see why radio can even be considered a parameter of success, if radio DJs wanted to they could just play a song no one cares about so much that it becomes a 'hit'. This is why I think airplay is a stupid addition to the Billboard Hot 100. That's a different story though I suppose...

 

 

(I do realize i'm posting to the same poster just without the "BlindFaith" prefix, whose 'politeness i criticized' only recently) but as some one with a psychiatric diagnosis of doing an excessive amount of thinking (a potential risk to mental health eg Winston Churchill - though we might share this condition i BLATANTLY DON'T share his genius :lol:) - i could not agree with you above 2 current conclusions more - perhaps i could just copy + paste some of your first class impartiality, logic + rational to cut down on my 'thinking time' as i can't see how i could come to more sound conclusions ;)

 

PS. I think your doomsday prediction may be late by a few days :unsure:

Edited February 24, 201115 yr by ima

OMFG! AT LAST.....(only a week later than the rest of the stations that were really playing HIAM the http://boxmail.biz/constructor/img/320581.jpg as can be seen from it cataclysmic size collapse down the airplay chart this week :D - its like they've closed the stable door LONG after the horse has bolted :rolleyes: - clueless as ever (what can you expect when contradictory to its youth market there seem a lots of old fogeys (30+) involved with the decision making!) ....they've actually taken FLOPNEY.... = LESS PROMO + SUCCESS

>>>>>>>> than YOUR FAVES!!!

 

http://209.85.12.227/431/162/emo/rotfl.gif http://209.85.12.227/431/162/emo/rotfl.gifhttp://209.85.12.227/431/162/emo/rotfl.gif Shame you didn't remember that all the people you sh!tted on on the way up, will do the same 2 U twice as hard as Failney goes doooown.....http://209.85.12.227/431/162/emo/shy.gif ......OFF the playlist!

Oh how typical of radio 1 to get rid of Britney because her (rather disappointing) comeback has underperformed.

 

I can't tell if your SOH is as dry as mine but i hope so because usually R1, like the rest of UK Radio, treats Britney music like the (totally record company sausage machined/manufactured of course) PLAGUE - this was complete EXCEPTION (UNTIL LAST week; see airplay chart :lol:) its BOMBED weeks ago but there must be BRITARD(s)(Scot Mills is HIGHLY suspect - has the required personality traits + lack of IQ) involved in the decision making AS STILL they kept it on with the insane DELUSIONAL belief, the practically already shown with 99 clips, No Brit dance vid, would completely reverse HIAM fortunes instead of the resulting STILL a MUCH 'more than "rather" ' F-L-O-P way!

 

Had a feeling Britneys removal wouldnt go down to well. Suprised somewhat though, I realise the video hasnt quite been the kick up the arse it needed but I'd have given it another week at least.

 

HELLO!??Since when has R1 (LIKE the rest of UK radio) given much airplay to (socially stigmatizing) Britney music - shes like the most exceptional LOW UK RADIO AIRPLAY act EVER in COMPARISON to her UK singles success - though it pretty obvious to most of us why, unlike SOME ^^^ people! We aren't in the noughties anymore and Flopney been considered a MAJOR hasbeen since her breakdown (she'll never be like her old self despite fans being MAJOR indenial about the obvious now) , only the odd poor dumb kid gives one anymore - after all she is a SHADOW of her former self, can't dance like she used to - even many fans don't like the vid, she has no spark/interest/gives a toss like she used + does NO Promo even when her single BOMBS worldwide(+ even STANS are dumping her, sick of being strung along by Brit + Jive about promo).In FACT she'd much rather be a Mum than promote a Pop career in which she has no involvement as merely a PUPPET of Jive, indeed so much so the reason she can't be arsed with this period ESPECIALLY is cause shes only doing it to contractually end her deal then FULL TIME Mum for Brit :)

 

PS. Why do you always have your ENTIRE posts in a font size infinitely BIGGER than the rest of us - if you have trouble with your eyes i expect your web browser has a built in MAGNIFIER utility for more convenience! GOOD LUCK!

 

 

Why exactly does Britney need a "huge hit"? The only place "Hold It Against Me" has underperformed is in the UK, lord knows why. I have a feeling it's to do with the X Factor performance a few years back as it's not like she's promoted anywhere and she's doing well.

 

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Thanks for saving me the time, i couldn't have illustrated any better than your post can, the typical ignorance + cluelessness of a Britard! http://th104.photobucket.com/albums/m190/mbwhoosh/smiley/th_bow.gif

Edited February 24, 201115 yr by ima

I'm quite disappointed about Britney, I don't like her or rate her as an artist whatsoever but this is a fantastic pop song and so many leagues above dreck like '3' or 'Womanizer', this isn't gonna help its chart run now... such a shame her label buggered that up!

 

 

Well i am totally :http://s17.rimg.info/8ef36251abde67e9e2da253ba087ad40.gif after what i have seen you write in the Brit forum here - have you ever considered a job working with the public with that level of tact and diplomacy - you clearly got my share when it comes to such subjects(esp. Apple/Organized religion - both those terms unsurprisingly completely interchangeable with each other along with Britardom :lol: - all existences where belief dominates + totally subdues logic, rational + the associated scientific method ).

 

As Bray's logic suggests (+i've mentioned) HIAM despite all its exposure has not connected with the public ( with a (too) familiarity with Kylie's history i guess '2 Hearts' is a comparison - though i loved the change in direction and the song itself + that team wrote the 300k UK seller ATL :wub: (just like with again similar but much more extreme situation, the Manics written + produced SKOBliss - IMO just as good + catchy melodious as the MSP singles of the time but with a roaring/happy/powerful Devil type Kylie vocal - after getting over its associated chart shock + potential meaning for Kylie's Pop career i (still) loved it just as much again :)

 

People who think HIAM is a turkey mention how inferior: over familiar,lacklustre,dated + tired its sounds with Martin/Dr Luke's other KIDDY POP hits that have been saturating the market for a while, especially Ke$ha.That HIAM in comparrison lacks effort from BOTH producer/writers + Britney herself - whose performance is termed tired,spiritless + 'phoned in' - i remember a popular comment from people that heard the non-Britney demo that the original female(session/backing vocalist) singer sounded much better/brighter/fresher than Brits vocal track.

 

such a shame her label buggered that up!

I think THAT SAYS IT ALL about Britney but that also means they aren't soley to blame in this situation - but its still there fault - if it wasn't for their degree pf GREED + HEARTLESSNESS thats gone beyond human suffering (along with her parents) she may never have suffered such a life effecting mental breakdown or the other hand if Jive wasn't so ruthless i highly doubt she'd still be around to have such a career to effect. My point - Britney's SHOCKING TOTAL lack of promo EVEN when things were obviously going pear shaped ie the singles WORLDWIDE DISASTROUS sales collapse/out of most countries charts in only a couple of weeks after releasehttp://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/jaw-dropping.gif . Even stars with careers so long term established, successful + self promoting that don't need to do promo (like Madonna here/UK a decade ago) do (more) promo when things get that relatively bad thus the personal visit(unless she was living here still)/performances/promo from Madge the on the launch of COADF but Brits 'Circus'( aptly named the tour which was most definitely a (figurative) Circus) had hardly returned Brit to her previous levels of guaranteed success + security she wasn't (yet) in a position where she could afford to forget about doing significant promo ( especially with poor material)

 

I didn't think Brit was particularly unlikable as a person in contrast with many such successful celebrities - i thought she was a bit like Kylie in that she's rarely reported slagging/bitching people off but i know with Kylie eg with mega gaffs(classic NON urban myth) "What do you think about the South African situation Kylie?" Kylie "They should stop shooting the Rhinos!" she might have been unfeasibly famous back then but like most KIDS her age pretty ignorant about such things *BUT* at least her heart was in the right place despite that (ie clearly NOT a PR job :lol: ) came out with at the start of her career, busy acting from so young, so not having much advanced education or knowledge - she learnt the hard way to only make statements on things in public you KNOW ABOUT/ have plenty of knowledge/experience on, UNLIKE Britney whose never had anything much of (intellectual or otherwise) substance to say or much of a passion for a cause throughout her entire career.

 

I don't assume that you rate Kylie as much of an artist either ( + of course she isn't in the meaning i see Kate Bush as an ultimately talented musician,lyricist + song writer/producer that even old Mandonna in her greatest pretentious egotistic delusions could imagine herself to be - but rarely (if ever?) do those with such degree of musical talent have SUSTAINED commercial success to the degree to likes of the Kylies or Madonnas) but for, of course merely my point of view, a major point of my Kylie fandom in that Kylie (or rather her mind/mental skills - learning ability (incl from/with experience with gathered knowledge = gaining wisdom), adapting for survival, intuition etc) have played some essential,relevant role in her destiny, against the odds, of a POP star maintaining interest from the public/commercial success over 2 DECADES. Obviously i expect Kylie (like others with such longevity) that luck has played an essential role too.

Since 1990 Kylie began to take more responsibility/ control of her own destiny, when she gave her 'puppet masters' (S/A/W) AN ultimatum either they let her have SOME/MORE control over her **own** career since it was hers it could make her so miserable she no longer would do it at all OR SHE would leave them (regardless of any contractual disadvantage it would leave her). She picked an ideal time since by then S/A/W's chart dominance had all but collapsed - KYLIE was the only SURE thing they had left for them to have a hit anymore - she KNEW she had them by the balls + she only asked for complete control over her image (vids, pics, record covers etc) AT first, though she obviously pushed for more involvement in the music/direction later which SAW rarely allowed.

I think its only when an act from their previous established success and (hopefully) wisdom gained through their career that they can truly choose a new record contract + ultimately have the potential to have some influence(eg along with who inspires them, give them recommendations ideas eg Pet Shop Boys recommended Parlo to Kylie ) on their own destiny. Yes as Kylie transparently acknowledges endless times Kylie™ ltd. only exists because of the input of countless professional skilled artististic talents buts it Kylie who has developed the skill/intuition/has the vision of seeing the potential they could bring to her act/develop the entertainment of her act, she's the one that acts an guide/overseer of the whole Kylie™ project eg(?) the glue that brings it all together - ultimately its her decision - at least agreement to the direction of her career takes.Its the diminishing commercial music path(to IP) she of her own mind took at the risk/cost of commercial success but imo it gained her a respect + integrity that Britney can therefore never have but Christiana A. could have if she was wanted the direction of the last (relative bomb) album + there are endless examples that Kylie is not highly motivated by finance current eg The cost of this years elaborate tour means as usual she won't be making much of a profit for herself in ACHING contrast to YOU KNOW who, who most recent tour was regarded as her poorest ever yet the prices remained as high as demand(made on well past glories) would allow her but then for such unmatched/PEERLESS long term commercial success,nostalgia could be considered the award. In contrast to Britney i can't see much evidence of her influence into her career path at all, Jive always ultimately seem to exerted their complete RUTHLESS dominance + influence over Britney's even career influenced limited ideas eg 'Gimme More' vid her original concepts being utterly HACKED to pieces. She is so powerless against their RUTHLESS control that they even got her to keep working (making that HORRIFIC 'DEAD ZOMBIE look' vid for 'Piece of me') at the height of her nervous break down - she was hospitalised only months later - if they had ANY respect (+even a soul themselves) for her as a HUMAN and not a CASH cow they could have sent someone suitable( even pay- small change to them- some professionals) to see her + to try to find out what was wrong or what could be done to help her - because she worryingly seemed to have no GENUINE DECENT reliable friends (given her family ignored till they saw the chance of $$$) to give her basic support + advice at that a most crucial time in her life :no:

 

Yes i thought she obviously WAS a great performer (despite her lack of mind,ideas or personality) but not unique or special enough to even let LUCK account for the degree of success she's had. I think many people with Britney's PREVIOUS performing ability could have replaced Brit and had similar success - its that RUTHLESSNESS + $$$ SLICK PR + marketing from Jive that caused such success to be created.I've read anecdotes of delusional Britards - suggesting how at least she has the Potential for being in control of her own destiny eg complete subjective nonsense like how much INPUT she had into the creation of her mega hit "Everytime" - so Of COURSE its just complete coincidence that the main writer Annette Artani is a very accomplished songwriter - tards of course have just literally interpreted Brit saying casually 'this is the first song she wrote...duh' :lol:. If Britney was that good a songwriter GREEDY Jive would be using her on the cheap to make her own mega hits :rofl: .Another RETARDED idea they have it that it was her inspiration for the school uniform suggestively dressed girl, vid LMFAO - again it was just a complete coincidence that ( the idea/hint at)underage sex would be such a HUGELY WORLDWIDE KILLER successful MARKETING gimmick that has been part Jive's identifying HUGELY successful SLICK highly sex dependent marketing signatures NOT ONLY through Brits with mental health career but with their acts before and since.

 

Of course its all down to luck - Kylie was lucky to get (among other things :o ) a decent mind ( for one it decreases( NOT prevent) the chances of becoming victim to the exploiters/manipulators of this world) + GREAT, genuinely supportive parents while on the other hand Britney had NEITHER such advantages in life :snif:

Edited February 24, 201115 yr by ima

Oh ima. Get a hobby. Because yet again you've managed to sprout some unreadable crap and made a grand total of no sense. Congrats.

LOL.....

Has anyone made it past the first line of the drivel above?

Edited February 24, 201115 yr by ElectroBoy

I tried, but the grammar was BAD :/

Clearly the mental institution awaits him. Nobody spends that much time writing an essay about that kind of stuff.

Sack bray from his record label - no way should they drop another single so soon - even sly was nearly too soon after RITD!! ;)

To be honest I think SLY should be considered a single now, even if no video is filmed (which it should as i'm sure it'd be amazing) just show the live brits performance if thats aloud, and then Set Fire To The Rain (which HAS to be a single) can be released in April, no point of having all the songs out right now, especially with Rolling in the Deep so high still too. :wub: Its better to space them out a little at least to keep album sales high whole way throughout the year, it'll be the #1 selling album of 2011 and Set Fire To The Rain will be huge and sell so many more copies. :heart:

Glad its been added, to B-list too! :D

Sack bray from his record label - no way should they drop another single so soon - even sly was nearly too soon after RITD!! ;)

 

I didn't say anything about them putting out SFTTR right now. I just said pushing SLY as a single would be totally pointless as it's already massive.

 

:P

Are they going to be making a video for 'Someone Like You' or are they letting the BRITS performance be the video?

If it gets made a single, I think they might make a proper video for it.

 

If it doesn't get made a single, I don't think they'll bother with a video, but most other artists who are in a similar situation to Adele (e.g. an album track on the radio and high in the charts) use a live performance as the video. I think Alicia Keys did it with Empire State of Mind (well, that actually did get released as a single in the end, but it was only released as a single in the UK and some other countries, and since Alicia is a worldwide artist, and was releasing other songs like Unthinkable, Try Sleeping..., etc. in other countries, I don't think Empire State of Mind's release in a few European countries was her main priority).

 

When I went to France, Missing You by the Black Eyed Peas was released as a single there, and on MTV they also used a live performance as the music video. I guess they wouldn't bother making a video for a single just released in France (and maybe some other countries, I'm not sure).

 

I think the BRITs performance would be great as a music video. It had a massive impact on people! The song went in the top 10 almost immediately after the song was performed. I don't think any music videos are premiered to 5 million people in the UK at the same time, so we have nothing to compare it with tbh, but I think Adele's BRITs performance convinced more people to buy the song than the average music video would, so I think it'd make a good video.

 

If they don't release Someone Like You as a single in the UK, I'm almost certain it'll be released in the US, and worldwide in general, so it could get a proper music video from that. Not to mention, music videos for album tracks have happened many times before, and this is an exceptional case, so it could happen again.

 

I still think that Someone Like You shouldn't be released in the UK, although Euphorique made an extremely good point. Someone Like You could overshadow her 2nd single (probably Set Fire to the Rain), so it could undeservedly flop. I think that's the best reasoning I've heard for why Someone Like You should become a single. Radio airplay is most definitely not a problem. Video airplay can work out if they can get one of her live performances to use for it. Physical release for the song would be nice, but it won't be the end of the world if it misses out on a physical release from not becoming a single. But if it looks like people will ignore her actual 2nd single because everybody is still excited over Someone Like You, perhaps it would be best to just go an release it, for that reason.

 

Sorry I went on for ages btw. :( :lol:

Edited February 24, 201115 yr by Eric_Blob

I don't know how R1 gets away with it. One of the most boring playlists EVER!! So dull.

im not sure if bray (who knows most about the charts on this site imo) is being stubborn or just ridiculous.why not push SLY as a single.the album will sell of thsat and of course RITD.why not just release all the singles on 21 and really confuse the public.extended album campaigns make an album sell more not releasing 3 singles in a month?!?!

 

extending the album until next november would mean it will sell more because albums sell most round xmas time!!