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Carol was amazing at the end there! :wub: Honestly had enough of Courtney, so glad Carol said what she did to her. She really does give off the impression that she's nothing but a spoiled little teenage girl from America.
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Also, I realise I am mostly by myself but I am back to really liking Courtney. They need to stop worrying and constantly moaning about her, worry about yourself.

I quite like her too :lol: She really isn't that bad, she's a bit bratty and immature but everyone else is worse really for constantly going on and on about how awful everything about her is whenever she dares to do ANYTHING :/ Especially Carol as you said, she's funny at times but she really is a miserable old bag. Although she's still infinitely better than Louie, literally not a single thing even remotely redeemable about him :manson: Horrible, bitter, annoying as f*** and just a complete asshole.

 

 

I will only be happy with Charlotte or Lauren winning though. Anyone else would be a shit winner, gone off Mario too now. He was far more miserable than Charlotte over the comments, she just had a bit of an 'ARGH' moment and then stopped.

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It's funny how because Carol moans a lot you all refer to her as just an "old bag". :D

Well she refers to Courtney as a $l*t etc. constantly so ....

 

Take off the loon tinted glasses once in a while babe.

It's how because Carol lays into people, you call her 'AMAZING :wub:' :D
It's funny how because Carol moans a lot you all refer to her as just an "old bag". :D

 

No, because she moans a lot we call her a "moany old bag" the moany and being an old bag are separate.

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Well yeah, got to have some respect for the only one in there who's not afraid to say what's actually on her mind, or tell people what she thinks of them. Admirable quality. That makes her an "old bag" though, oh noes. :(
Well yeah, got to have some respect for the only one in there who's not afraid to say what's actually on her mind, or tell people what she thinks of them. Admirable quality. That makes her an "old bag" though, oh noes. :(

 

Speaking your mind does not add extra years to someones age so can you stop saying that because she is "truthful blah blah blah" people comment on her as an "old bag", it has nothing to do with it. Also may I say, speaking your mind is an admirable quality if used correctly, as in speaking up if someone is acting badly and giving them an insight into their own character if they need it. Carol uses her "truthfulness" in neither of these ways, instead using it to belittle people to make herself feel better and just to be downright nasty for no good reason, there is a big difference.

Gosh Carol is so cutting to people!

My favourite was Mario but even he was annoying me tonight!

Abz is growing on me because I feel I relate with him with the whole introverted thing (although only to an extent.)

That Noreen woman must be laughing at home right now. :P

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Speaking your mind does not add extra years to someones age so can you stop saying that because she is "truthful blah blah blah" people comment on her as an "old bag", it has nothing to do with it. Also may I say, speaking your mind is an admirable quality if used correctly, as in speaking up if someone is acting badly and giving them an insight into their own character if they need it. Carol uses her "truthfulness" in neither of these ways, instead using it to belittle people to make herself feel better and just to be downright nasty for no good reason, there is a big difference.

So really, you lot calling her an "old bag" is not really any different to Carol calling Charlotte a "geordie slag". Simple observation, wouldn't you say? Yeah, there's been times when she's been pissed and she's said a few things, albeit truthfully, that have offended people, but she's never (when sober) intentionally belittled somebody, or made them feel any such way. You can't really help being truthful about the observations you're making, and if you don't like them. People may disagree with what she's saying, but that's just the way it is. We're watching from a one-hour-a-night perspective, and Carol's in there on a twenty-four-hours-a-day perspective. The housemates will know a hell of a lot more about people, and Carol. She's made these types of observations from day 1, and has picked people up on them, because she can, and because she should.

So really, you lot calling her an "old bag" is not really any different to Carol calling Charlotte a "geordie slag". Simple observation, wouldn't you say? Yeah, there's been times when she's been pissed and she's said a few things, albeit truthfully, that have offended people, but she's never (when sober) intentionally belittled somebody, or made them feel any such way. You can't really help being truthful about the observations you're making, and if you don't like them. People may disagree with what she's saying, but that's just the way it is. We're watching from a one-hour-a-night perspective, and Carol's in there on a twenty-four-hours-a-day perspective. The housemates will know a hell of a lot more about people, and Carol. She's made these types of observations from day 1, and has picked people up on them, because she can, and because she should.

 

I am not really getting this whole 'you lot calling her an "old bag"' thing you seem to be driving home, point out where I for one have called her an "old bag" and I can't really see many times anyone else has, on here, either. Just because she has been intoxicated when she has been nasty about people, like the Sophie trout-pout impressions, the nastiness about Courtney etc. then that is fine is it? To be honest, I can't even tell when she is sober now because most of the time we see her she has had a drink and is even worse for it. Saying her observations (you're cover up word for bitchiness and snide behaviour) have more right to be heard than ours makes a mockery of the point in the show, just because she is living with these people does not mean therefore her comments on them have to be right, and it also basically saying that because we only see an hour of the show we shouldn't have any opinions on the housemates at all. I am sorry to say, that is the point in Big Brother, we see the most important and interesting stuff from the last 24 hours and make our opinions of the housemates based on them? Also on your last comment, just because you can do something does not necessarily mean you should.

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Gosh Carol is so cutting to people!

My favourite was Mario but even he was annoying me tonight!

Abz is growing on me because I feel I relate with him with the whole introverted thing (although only to an extent.)

That Noreen woman must be laughing at home right now. :P

I can relate to Abz as I have the same condition as him. He isn't that bad at all. Yeah he isn't the more exciting or entertaining but he's still very likeable imo.

 

Liking Courtney again after slowly going off her. I wish Louis & Carol would leave on Wednesday but fat chance that will even happen :(

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I am not really getting this whole 'you lot calling her an "old bag"' thing you seem to be driving home, point out where I for one have called her an "old bag" and I can't really see many times anyone else has, on here, either. Just because she has been intoxicated when she has been nasty about people, like the Sophie trout-pout impressions, the nastiness about Courtney etc. then that is fine is it? To be honest, I can't even tell when she is sober now because most of the time we see her she has had a drink and is even worse for it. Saying her observations (you're cover up word for bitchiness and snide behaviour) have more right to be heard than ours makes a mockery of the point in the show, just because she is living with these people does not mean therefore her comments on them have to be right, and it also basically saying that because we only see an hour of the show we shouldn't have any opinions on the housemates at all. I am sorry to say, that is the point in Big Brother, we see the most important and interesting stuff from the last 24 hours and make our opinions of the housemates based on them? Also on your last comment, just because you can do something does not necessarily mean you should.

Well it was actually just said on the previous page, so take a closer look. Don't really understand how you say she's an "old bag", yet slag her off (the hypocrisy) when she says that Charlotte's a "Geordie slag". :lol: Can't really condone either of their actions (re. the Sophie/Carol feud). They both hated each other, they were both saying things about each other. Yeah, Carol said a few things inside the house, but when Sophie got out the house, she really went for it and made a right twat of herself.

I don't really think saying she's making observations is a cover up for saying that she's bitchy at all. That's all she's doing - blunt, to the point, and saying what she thinks about what is happening before her eyes. That's about the bottom line, and people don't seem to like it because she's saying this about their favourites. Pretty sure they wouldn't mind it as much had she been saying this about somebody that nearly all of the audience hated, to some extent. Pretty sure she is allowed to have opinions of people in the house, and they're neither right or wrong, it's the general assumption she has made of the people she is living with having spent just over two weeks with them, and getting to know what they're like, and if that means saying that she thinks Courtney's just a spoiled child, then... guess what... observation.

If she can voice her opinions of people in the house, she definitely should. What's holding her back? Some people that don't seem to like the idea of a housemate they dislike airing their opinions of housemates who they have grown to love in the house? Don't think so. She has just as much right as anybody else in that house to say what she thinks of them, and make them aware of that. Wouldn't like to think that if I had a problem with somebody in the house I wasn't to say what it was in case I may offend the viewers at home.

It kicked off between Charlotte and Vicky on live feed.

Tell me Calum, what does Carol actually ACHIEVE by voicing her 'observations'? Does it make Courtney/Charlotte/whoever she slags off tomorrow listen to what she has to say and change their behaviour/ways for the better improving and growing in life? Does she always even do that to their faces? Is Carol an all-knowing prophet who cannot be mistaken and everyone should listen to because she's apparently 'truthful'? No, no and no.
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Well normally, having the ability to voice one's opinion isn't really an 'achievement'... Unless it is and Carol, myself, and nearly everybody else are due a Blue Peter badge. :o

Yeah but voicing an opinion doesn't entail repeating it over and over while bitching and moaning.

 

Her doing that grants everyone a right to call her a bitchy old bag ("old bag" actually always means older woman who is always grumpy and shit, and her age is nothing but a mere FACT). Not because it may be someone's opinion but because it's pretty much a FACT now. Don't give me all that bull about it being her 'observations'. She's being bitchy? Yes. She's being a grumpy moanful old bag? Yes.

 

Putting these together we have B I T C H Y O L D B A G.

 

ANNOYING it's not a video though.

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Lauren: "Abz just needs to find a good place. I mean, he lives in Cardiff" :wub:

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