He's a repugnant vile rancid evil c**t.

The state of British politics is almost as depressing as the US right now. I had high hopes for Theresa but over the last few months it's become QUITE CLEAR she's basically Trump in a wig. Except we will have her/her party for longer than he will be around. YAY.

 

 

I think a 2017 General Election is looking increasingly likely as time passes. Politics is such a state right now. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see one in May with the local elections. I just hope the Tories wouldn't make too many gains (although it's very likely) and hopefully Lib Dems will gain a strong foothold in remain areas.

 

It will be tragic if Labour still can't make any gains on the Tories in the next opinion polls given all that's happened in the past week. It shows how bad a state the Labour Party is in right now.

I think a 2017 General Election is looking increasingly likely as time passes. Politics is such a state right now. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see one in May with the local elections. I just hope the Tories wouldn't make too many gains (although it's very likely) and hopefully Lib Dems will gain a strong foothold in remain areas.

 

It will be tragic if Labour still can't make any gains on the Tories in the next opinion polls given all that's happened in the past week. It shows how bad a state the Labour Party is in right now.

 

The longer term issue is people are just going to be disillusioned with politics in general. The Tories are there for the taking, but there is no opposition. I don't see how we can encourage people to vote when there is nothing good to vote for. I mean, maybe the polls disagree with me, but 10-20 years time, from the Millennials and future generations, I don't think we will see 'traditional Tory/Labour' voters the way we do today. It will literally be, who is offering the best deal on the table!

The Green party took a council seat off UKIP tonight LOL

I see the latest ICM has an EIGHTEEN point lead for Saint Theresa.

 

Wake me up when the 2020s end.

Headline figures for the most recent opinion poll, carried out by Opininum on behalf of The Observer -

 

CON 38 (-3)

LAB 29 (+1)

LD 7 (-1)

UKIP 14 (+1)

GRN 5 (+2)

SNP 5 (-1)

 

If you drill down to just voters in Scotland, it makes for interesting reading -

 

Scotland subsample (usual caveats)

SNP 48%

CON 30%

LAB 10%

GRN 6%

LD 4%

 

Labour in 3rd, barely scraping double figures, whilst nearly 1 in 3 people in Scotland support the Tories? (Disclaimer - the sample of Scottish that make up the poll is 124, so might not be entirely representative).

It's more that people are migrating to Ruth because she's the 'only one who stands up to the SNP' or some yoon bullshit like that. That and barely anybody believes that SLab are even capable of boiling a kettle, they're just a shambles. It's insane to think that 3 years ago they were the dominant party in Scottish politics.

 

 

 

Scotland is on the road to being a 2-Party state between the SNP and the unionist shades of Tory.

 

 

Hoping to see a bit of a fall for Ruth soon though with her backing the Rape Clause (but only via spokesperson coz she's too chickenshit to actually face the public) and now 7 of her candidates been suspended for outright racism.

I think that despite Kezia's conversion into die hard unionist, unionists still see the Tories as the stronger party to stand up for the UK (there's not exactly much competition :kink:) and that's why they're doing so well. Still shocking though when you think back to before 2011 :o

Hoping to see a bit of a fall for Ruth soon though with her backing the Rape Clause (but only via spokesperson coz she's too chickenshit to actually face the public) and now 7 of her candidates been suspended for outright racism.

There are two ways of interpreting Davidson's defence of the rape clause...

 

1) The maak has slipped and she is now showing herself in her true Tory colours

 

2) She has abandoned her claims that she is not interested in a Westminster career and is attempting to appeal to English Tories who might select her for a safe seat.

As deplorable as I find the "rape clause" to be, what needs to happen is not the revoking of said clause, but a reversal of the policy that lead to it being introduced in the first place, namely the withholding of tax credits to parents who have more than two children.

 

Given that this "Catholic Tax" (a name I give it based on the group of people this policy is most likely to affect, although someone should A/B test it alongside "Muslim Tax" to see which one evokes more outrage with the public, presumably the latter) was introduced by Gideon & Cameron, I really hope that it is one that Theresa May, if she has a scintilla of humanity, and any understanding of her more socially conservative base, will scrap at the next possibly opportunity.

As deplorable as I find the "rape clause" to be, what needs to happen is not the revoking of said clause, but a reversal of the policy that lead to it being introduced in the first place, namely the withholding of tax credits to the parents of children who have more than two children.

 

Given that this "Catholic Tax" (a name I give it based on the group of people this policy is most likely to affect, although someone should A/B test it alongside "Muslim Tax" to see which one evokes more outrage with the public, presumably the latter) was introduced by Gideon & Cameron, I really hope that it is one that Theresa May, if she has a scintilla of humanity, and any understanding of her more socially conservative base, will scrap at the next possibly opportunity.

 

The whole policy is addressing a problem that doesn't exist outside the tabloid press. There is no evidence whatsoever that there are lots of women trying to get pregnant so that they can claim benefits.

Precisely. I can't imagine anyone getting pregnant for the sake of £54 a week.

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/1522694...ef=mrb&lp=9

 

 

Don't think Glasgow is going to be backing Ruth anytime soon. How much damage is inflicted depends on how much coverage the Unionist print and TV media gives it. BBC have been rather quiet and the tory leaning papers have been parroting the Davidson line that it's all the SNPs fault.

Not really surprising that Scotland is so polarised it's a bit like NI since the referendum divided constitutionally between unionism and nationalism and who's gonna support labour to defend that unionism when you have true blue conservatives doing it. Doubt Davidson will move south when she's the most effective defender of the union in the north!

 

Also good to see labour fighting back in the U.K. as a whole!

Also good to see labour fighting back in the U.K. as a whole!

Where?!

One poll lol. They gained 4 points!!

As deplorable as I find the "rape clause" to be, what needs to happen is not the revoking of said clause, but a reversal of the policy that lead to it being introduced in the first place, namely the withholding of tax credits to parents who have more than two children.

 

Given that this "Catholic Tax" (a name I give it based on the group of people this policy is most likely to affect, although someone should A/B test it alongside "Muslim Tax" to see which one evokes more outrage with the public, presumably the latter) was introduced by Gideon & Cameron, I really hope that it is one that Theresa May, if she has a scintilla of humanity, and any understanding of her more socially conservative base, will scrap at the next possibly opportunity.

 

Well, quite. With birth rates at 1.9 (up very slightly since the start of the century, yet still below the replacement threshold of 2.1) you'd have to wonder what the point of this policy was beyond preventing the poor from having more children. The consequences of an ageing population are not going to be pretty!

Today's polls 26/4/17

 

Conservative 45% (-3)

Labour 29% (+4)

Liberal Democrats 10% (-2)

UKIP 7% (+2)

Other 9% (+1)

As deplorable as I find the "rape clause" to be, what needs to happen is not the revoking of said clause, but a reversal of the policy that lead to it being introduced in the first place, namely the withholding of tax credits to parents who have more than two children.

 

Given that this "Catholic Tax" (a name I give it based on the group of people this policy is most likely to affect, although someone should A/B test it alongside "Muslim Tax" to see which one evokes more outrage with the public, presumably the latter) was introduced by Gideon & Cameron, I really hope that it is one that Theresa May, if she has a scintilla of humanity, and any understanding of her more socially conservative base, will scrap at the next possibly opportunity.

You really think anti-Catholicism is an element here or are you just being contrarian?

 

I find it a little difficult to get angry at the rape clause itself, which is still causing a shitstorm in Scottish politics. The principle is horrible, but I feel like we're widely missing the bigger picture - are there really many women, who already have two children and then go on to give birth to a third through rape? I don't think I want an answer to that question, but I'd like to think that the it's more of a philosophical rather than a pragmatic debate. It has indeed raised many wider questions about the purpose of the Scottish parliament and what it means for the Scottish Conservatives to be in opposition.