The thing with choir tracks is that nobody streams them. I really think this is a last hurrah for any sort of choir song peaking in the top three, by the time the next one comes out the download market will be dead or thereabouts.

 

All I see happening to the Xmas number one going forwards is that it becomes like a normal chart week with little outside significance. Nobody will save up releases for Xmas because anyone of significance will release earlier in Q4 to serve as a vehicle for album sales and nobody else will have the power to debut at #1 with an OA/OS release. Campaigns will never build up enough streaming traction to contend either, unless the chosen songs are already charting and up in the top five already or something.

Another big increase for the NHS

So who is looking at being no.1 now guys?

 

They're both awful but if people here reaaaallyy have 300-500 quid on it then I'll have to support their choice as I don't want anyone here losing money which is more important tbh :o

 

Gooddelta makes a really good point though r.e streaming: this could be the end of the all-important Xmas no.1 as, really, who cares if a song is no.1 that week? With an oversaturation of charts, I know people who see iTunes as the official chart, Vodaphone, top40, it kinda loses significance, you know?

 

No one will release a pre-album single and with singles losing power, no act like Spice Girls or Westlife around, no second single or third will - usually, as I know we have a current exception - will drum up huge sales and any single will also have been released earlier to maximise album sales over the period. Campaigns will lack streaming and with collapsed sales ... I can't see the week being a chart phenomenon for the foreseeable future. We might have completely lost the tradition. Simon and streaming killed it!!

Edited December 23, 20159 yr by FrostytheBeaver

Oh this campaign is working :lol:

 

I reckon this will be it though.

That would mean at 0.4-0.5 they're only drawing level now, plus they've got to make up the fact that they've lost the past 4 days. 3 days to go, but like I say these campaigners will know whats needed to win and will adjust accordingly. If its 0.4 they need from here on in, they'll do it, if its 0.3 they need or 0.1 or whatever it is they'll do what it takes.

 

It will be interesting to if they keep this up but it looks like they've got the bit between their teeth now.

For some people it is, I don't dispute some people are buying it out of interest/good will, but the fact that Bieber's the poster boy who to beat doesn't help. :lol:

 

I don't really get this argument - surely they've just been aiming to have sales as high as possible all week? :unsure: It's not like they can just magically make their sales lead larger, they need to find people to be convinced to download it, and they've just been doing that as much as possible since the start of the week. There will be a limit to the number of people who will buy into this and I can't see that limit being high enough to beat Bieber no matter how hard they try. Unless they have some ridiculous trump card still to pull out in the last 48 hours... but why would they wait that long?

 

Once again, the NHS Choir's sales lead will be at most very slightly more than Bieber's streaming advantage. Bieber has higher streaming figures than sales figures, so a 2 to 1 lead on iTunes for NHS Choir is just breaking even, and they need to outpace him by at least 7,000 in the last 2 days to beat him. It's still very unlikely.

doesn't seem bieber cares much of number one, if he did a few tweets he could still be in the race

He's busy sitting at home in America counting his millions.

I doubt Bieber even knows anything about this :P Pretty sure it's just this country the Christmas #1 has ever been an actual thing.

I don't really get this argument - surely they've just been aiming to have sales as high as possible all week? :unsure: It's not like they can just magically make their sales lead larger, they need to find people to be convinced to download it, and they've just been doing that as much as possible since the start of the week. There will be a limit to the number of people who will buy into this and I can't see that limit being high enough to beat Bieber no matter how hard they try. Unless they have some ridiculous trump card still to pull out in the last 48 hours... but why would they wait that long?

 

Once again, the NHS Choir's sales lead will be at most very slightly more than Bieber's streaming advantage. Bieber has higher streaming figures than sales figures, so a 2 to 1 lead on iTunes for NHS Choir is just breaking even, and they need to outpace him by at least 7,000 in the last 2 days to beat him. It's still very unlikely.

Like I said before, the NHS choir only has to outpace JB by 3000 for yesterday, today and tomorrow to win and unless his streams have held up, it's very doable IMO.

Edited December 23, 20159 yr by Motor Bug2005

Both versions of NHS Choir in red now with the 2nd version dark red.

Think we will see a lot of media support for the NHS today along with encouragement to buy - Heart FM London already doing so.

Think we will see a lot of media support for the NHS today along with encouragement to buy - Heart FM London already doing so.

I've just voted for them over on the poll thread although I still hope that I am wrong. The 'momentum' is with them now and over the next couple of days there will be further doses of high-profile promo and things on social media are likely to become pretty frenzied.

Combined/Weighted

As of 1.5 hours ago

 

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01 - 1.0000 - The Lewisham and Greenwich NHS Choir - A Bridge Over You (Radio Edit)

02 - 0.4659 - Justin Bieber - Love Yourself

03 - 0.2802 - Justin Bieber - Sorry

04 - 0.2778 - Grace - You Don't Own Me (feat. G-Eazy)

05 - 0.2553 - Sigala - Sweet Lovin' (feat. Bryn Christopher) [Radio Edit]

06 - 0.2392 - One Direction - History

07 - 0.2371 - Adele - Hello

08 - 0.1872 - Coldplay - Adventure of a Lifetime

09 - 0.1509 - 99 Souls - The Girl Is Mine (feat. Destiny's Child & Brandy)

10 - 0.1446 - Fleur East - Sax

 

11 - 0.1425 - Stormzy - Shut Up (Studio Version)

12 - 0.1320 - Justin Bieber - What Do You Mean?

13 - 0.1087 - Jess Glynne - Take Me Home (BBC Children In Need Single 2015)

14 - 0.1083 - Sigma & Rita Ora - Coming Home

15 - 0.0971 - Robin Schulz - Sugar (feat. Francesco Yates)

16 - 0.0964 - Shawn Mendes - Stitches

17 - 0.0928 - Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You

18 - 0.0927 - Craig David & Big Narstie - When the Bassline Drops

19 - 0.0899 - One Direction - Perfect

20 - 0.0880 - Little Mix - Love Me Like You

 

21 - 0.0826 - The Pogues - Fairytale of New York (feat. Kirsty MacColl)

22 - 0.0781 - The Weeknd - The Hills

23 - 0.0751 - David Guetta - Bang my Head (feat. Sia & Fetty Wap)

24 - 0.0744 - WSTRN - In2

25 - 0.0738 - Naughty Boy - Runnin' (Lose It All) [feat. Beyoncé & Arrow Benjamin]

26 - 0.0657 - Drake - Hotline Bling

27 - 0.0647 - Sia - Alive

28 - 0.0637 - Olly Murs - Kiss Me

29 - 0.0625 - MNEK & Zara Larsson - Never Forget You

 

30 - 0.0598 - Years & Years - Eyes Shut

31 - 0.0595 - WALK THE MOON - Shut Up and Dance

32 - 0.0579 - The Weeknd - Can't Feel My Face

33 - 0.0576 - Jamie Lawson - Wasn't Expecting That

34 - 0.0551 - Louisa Johnson - Forever Young

35 - 0.0550 - Snakehips - All My Friends (feat. Tinashe & Chance The Rapper)

36 - 0.0467 - Nathan Sykes - Over and Over Again

37 - 0.0466 - Sam Smith - Writing's on the Wall

38 - 0.0444 - Taylor Swift - Wildest Dreams

39 - 0.0402 - Adele - When We Were Young

40 - 0.0400 - Little Mix - Secret Love Song (feat. Jason Derulo)

 

41 - 0.0393 - Major Lazer - Light It Up (feat. Nyla & Fuse ODG) [Remix]

42 - 0.0366 - KDA - Turn the Music Louder (Rumble) [feat. Tinie Tempah & Katy B] [Radio Edit]

43 - 0.0363 - Wham! - Last Christmas (Single Version)

44 - 0.0353 - Roy Wood & Wizzard - I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday

45 - 0.0344 - Fetty Wap - 679 (feat. Monty)

46 - 0.0341 - The Weeknd - In the Night

47 - 0.0338 - Little Mix - Black Magic

48 - 0.0332 - Shakin' Stevens - Merry Christmas Everyone

49 - 0.0316 - Jess Glynne - Don't Be So Hard On Yourself

50 - 0.0307 - Elle King - Ex's & Oh's

 

51 - 0.0290 - Jess Glynne - Hold My Hand

52 - 0.0279 - Taylor Swift - Shake It Off

53 - 0.0277 - Chris Rea - Driving Home for Christmas

54 - 0.0277 - Silentó - Watch Me (Whip / Nae Nae)

55 - 0.0271 - Pia Mia - Touch

56 - 0.0270 - Blinkie - Don't Give Up (On Love) [Radio Edit]

57 - 0.0262 - Stevie Wonder & Andra Day - Someday at Christmas

58 - 0.0255 - Selena Gomez - Hands To Myself

59 - 0.0247 - Mark Ronson - Uptown Funk (feat. Bruno Mars)

60 - 0.0245 - Stormzy - WickedSkengMan 4 (Studio Version)

 

61 - 0.0244 - Ariana Grande - Focus

62 - 0.0237 - Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree

63 - 0.0235 - Justin Bieber - I'll Show You

64 - 0.0229 - Calvin Harris & Disciples - How Deep Is Your Love

65 - 0.0226 - R. City - Locked Away (feat. Adam Levine)

66 - 0.0220 - Jason Derulo - Want to Want Me

67 - 0.0217 - Ellie Goulding - Love Me Like You Do (From "Fifty Shades Of Grey")

68 - 0.0217 - Kylie Minogue - Only You (feat. James Corden)

69 - 0.0215 - Chris Brown - Back to Sleep

70 - 0.0212 - Charlie Puth - One Call Away

 

71 - 0.0210 - Macklemore & Ryan Lewis - Downtown (feat. Eric Nally, Melle Mel, Kool Moe Dee & Grandmaster Caz)

72 - 0.0206 - Elvis Presley - Burning Love

73 - 0.0202 - Martin Solveig - +1 (feat. Sam White) [Radio Edit]

74 - 0.0202 - Years & Years - Shine

75 - 0.0201 - Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas?

76 - 0.0198 - James Bay - Let It Go

77 - 0.0196 - Ed Sheeran - Photograph

78 - 0.0193 - Disturbed - The Sound of Silence

79 - 0.0192 - Elton John - Step Into Christmas (Radio Mix)

80 - 0.0189 - Rudimental - Lay It All on Me (feat. Ed Sheeran)

 

81 - 0.0188 - Dean Martin - Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! (Remastered)

82 - 0.0187 - John Williams - Main Title and the Attack on the Jakku Village

83 - 0.0184 - AURORA - Half the World Away

84 - 0.0184 - One Direction - Drag Me Down

85 - 0.0182 - Lo-Fang - You're the One That I Want

86 - 0.0179 - Ellie Goulding - On My Mind

87 - 0.0177 - The 1975 - UGH!

88 - 0.0176 - Sigma - Glitterball (feat. Ella Henderson)

89 - 0.0174 - Diplo & Sleepy Tom - Be Right There

90 - 0.0172 - Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me

91 - 0.0170 - Taylor Swift - Bad Blood

So there is less thank 40 hours of selling time to go now... Nhs appear to be selling just over 2:1 at the moment but with bieber midweek lead and massive streaming I still think they need to outsell him 5:1 in the until the deadline to have a chance.

It's all promotion and a bit hypocrite. The people (for their legitimate fears of tax increases) have voted again for the government responsible for the NHS cuts, and now are backing this campaign to clear their conscience while it's obvious that one week of charity song is irrelevant to the NHS system

So there is less thank 40 hours of selling time to go now... Nhs appear to be selling just over 2:1 at the moment but with bieber midweek lead and massive streaming I still think they need to outsell him 5:1 in the until the deadline to have a chance.

 

5:1? OK. Your'e on something? 3:1 will be more than enough.

It's all promotion and a bit hypocrite. The people (for their legitimate fears of tax increases) have voted again for the government responsible for the NHS cuts, and now are backing this campaign to clear their conscience while it's obvious that one week of charity song is irrelevant to the NHS system

 

To be fair, the NHS campaign hasn't been about stopping the cuts (although I'm sure they all believe in this) but more to highlight a show of support for the NHS and it's staff.

Over on Amazon digital, the NHS choir is no1 and no2 (and no1 in digital albums). Justin Bieber is no5 and no58.

64 - Selena Gomez - Hands To Myself

 

This is climbing well.

Over on Amazon digital, the NHS choir is no1 and no2 (and no1 in digital albums). Justin Bieber is no5 and no58.

 

Google Play #2 and #11 for NHS, Bieber at #3 and #24.

 

 

#16 Stitches

#17 Sugar

#18 Craig David

if only those were the top 3 instead of NHS/Bieber :)