It would be us dealing with our own shit, and not other countries deciding how we should act, and basically forcing us to do exactly as they want, when they want, how they want. Our own government we can change if they decide to bullshit us, the EU we cant cause we're stuck with them.

Its funny how the EU leaders are already saying the EU needs to change, maybe this is their wakeup call, but somehow I doubt. If it does eventually change its policies, I'm open to change my mind about the organization, right now, this is how I feel.

 

I don't know if you have ever taken any european politcal classes but this is really not how the EU is working :lol:

See, I got the distinct impression that both yourself and Vidcapper would have been extremely annoyed if Remain had won. But then again, that's just the aura you both give off.

 

 

Well I'd have been annoyed but some people here seem to be going a bit over the top with their anger and saying such nasty things about us Brexiteers. It was disgusting how Boris was jeered by yobs this morning as he left his house. Could have turned ugly. It's like they were disrespecting the Democratic process.

Our border is the *sea*

 

Last time I looked at a map I'm pretty sure there was no sea between Northern Ireland and the Republic, or England and Scotland. I feel like you might have taken the same cartography class as Buster Bluth if you've missed that little fact.

Well I'd have been annoyed but some people here seem to be going a bit over the top with their anger and saying such nasty things about us Brexiteers. It was disgusting how Boris was jeered by yobs this morning as he left his house. Could have turned ugly. It's like they were disrespecting the Democratic process.

Well I think I would be mad if someone full of hatred and xenophobia won on a campaign solely based by lies. Oh wait - that will probably happen in November.

Well I'd have been annoyed but some people here seem to be going a bit over the top with their anger and saying such nasty things about us Brexiteers. It was disgusting how Boris was jeered by yobs this morning as he left his house. Could have turned ugly. It's like they were disrespecting the Democratic process.

 

I'm sorry but you would need a f***ing CRANE to get you to a point of being close to taking the moral high ground on this, OR ANYTHING.

Our say never stopped counting for something. The EU didn't elect any government in the UK against the wishes of the people of the UK. Most businesses will still need to meet the vast majority of those regulations in order to trade with the EU and most of that infrastructure is there as a force for good, not as some kind of malevolent entity.

 

As for policy, almost everything policy related is decided by the government elected by the people of the UK. So if you don't like that, that's an entirely separate issue.

 

Well if that's how you see it, fair enough. I just feel like we should have our own infrastructure and shouldn't at all be governed by an overriding constitution.

I just can't believe people are so angry here at the result. It's not like it on DS, a much bigger forum. Come on, life's not going to suddenly change. The world's still spinning. I wouldn't have been so angry if Remain had won. Maybe because I expected it.

If Remain had won narrowly, the Leave brigade would have started preparing for another referendum in a few years' time. Anti-EU Tories would have tried to dump as many pro-EU MPs as they could. They would have used the boundary view to make that easier. In other words, a Remain vote would not have been as permanent as a Leave one. It is true that life is not going to change next week. However, it will change over the next few years, and it won't be a change for the better.

Well I'd have been annoyed but some people here seem to be going a bit over the top with their anger and saying such nasty things about us Brexiteers. It was disgusting how Boris was jeered by yobs this morning as he left his house. Could have turned ugly. It's like they were disrespecting the Democratic process.

I haven't noticed a single Leave campaigner condemning the moron who thought it was a good idea to fly a plane trailing a campaign banner over Trafalgar Square while the memorial for Jo Cox was taking place. That act is far more disrespectful than a few boos.

Y'all are more than welcome to come and live in The Netherlands xxxx

 

I still can't grasp the fact that Britain aparantly has so many brainless farts who can't think outside their own happy little rainbow worlds and see what this does, not only to your economy, but also to your nation, Europe as a whole, dozens of other economies and how this divides y'all even further from Europe. It's a massive mess.

 

The Leave side has done nothing else but lie, as has been said before and has now been confirmed by that Nigel guy himself on GMB

It isn't better here, we may get Wilders as PM next year and he already screams for Nexit Referendum

I haven't noticed a single Leave campaigner condemning the moron who thought it was a good idea to fly a plane trailing a campaign banner over Trafalgar Square while the memorial for Jo Cox was taking place. That act is far more disrespectful than a few boos.

 

I would have condemned it, if I had heard about it at all.

 

BTW, have you heard about this?

 

Could Britain face a second EU referendum already? MPs could be forced to debate staging another vote after petition tops 100,000 target within hours of Brexit result

 

I won't bother with the URL, as you won't like the source. ;)

 

The gov't petition website that carries it has apparently crashed though... :rolleyes:

 

https://petition.parliament.uk/

Even when I thought Remain would win, I thought this sort of decision never should have been given to the public. And considering 17.5 million people who voted based their vote on the bullshit published by The Daily Mail and The Sun, I say this never should have been a referendum.

 

Cameron resigning, on any other occasion, would have been great, but in a few years we'll be regretting these days. Well, if the UK still exists in 2016, that is, and that's unlikely.

I would have condemned it, if I had heard about it at all.

 

BTW, have you heard about this?

 

Could Britain face a second EU referendum already? MPs could be forced to debate staging another vote after petition tops 100,000 target within hours of Brexit result

 

I won't bother with the URL, as you won't like the source. ;)

 

The gov't petition website that carries it has apparently crashed though... :rolleyes:

 

https://petition.parliament.uk/

I think it's reasonable to assume a similar petition would have appeared if there had been a narrow vote for Remain. I still think there is a possibility that there will be another referendum when the details of the exit terms are known, particularly if there is clear evidence of a significant number of Leave voters having changed their minds.

The biggest problem with the rubbish printed by the right-wing press over the years is that pro-EU politicians have done next to nothing to counter it. They should have made sure people knew more about how EU decisions are made. Their failure to do that has meant that many people genuinely seem to think that all decisions are made by a group of bureaucrats with no elected politicians getting involved at all.

 

Ideally, the BBC would do more to educate people on this, but they seem to be afraid of showing pro-EU bias if they contradict the rubbish in the tabloids.

I haven't noticed a single Leave campaigner condemning the moron who thought it was a good idea to fly a plane trailing a campaign banner over Trafalgar Square while the memorial for Jo Cox was taking place. That act is far more disrespectful than a few boos.

Nor the far right anti immigrant facebook page of her murderers organisation headlined Death Of A Fool.

 

We are pissed off at racist lies which is why we are leaving the eu. How about leavers expressing outrage at her murder and the evil organisstion behind it.

 

Thought not.

 

If the ref had been won thanks to a rational campaign on the facts we would all be totally fine with the result. It wsnt though. Anyone who has spken to leavers know its based on emotion and 3 basic lies repeated ovr and over ad nauseum.

Shocking result, and even though I voted for remain I can't say I'm that surprised sadly.

 

The majority of working people in the UK have been continually devastated by the rampant Neo-liberal economics (encouraged by the EU) that since the late 1980s has allowed the rich elite to profit handsomely at the direct expense of them... yet when they went too far and crashed the markets through irresponsible and doubly rampant lending, the public purse had to foot the bill. Essentially socialism for the rich guaranteed and paid-for by the working classes, and yesterday they decided they'd 'had enough'. Ignored by politicians and condemned as racist or xenophobic by the metropolitan intelligentsia of London and elsewhere you just simply can't ignore 17 million people or label them as such.

 

This is a failure for David Cameron, a failure for the remain campaign - hell bent on negative campaigning and threats without listening to genuine concerns, and a failure for the Labour party - who despite campaigning quite clearly for remain - saw a majority of their core support vote against them.

 

This is a sad day, but we need to accept the result - take stock and then demand a general election in 6-9 months so that we can kick out the Conservatives who will now work in the interest of the rich elite to destroy all that those who voted out want to protect, such as public services and workers rights.

You're right. Some right nutters on there. I can only read though as am perma-banned there and haven't bothered to re-register yet.

I legit laughed out loud when I read this :lol:

Shocking result, and even though I voted for remain I can't say I'm that surprised sadly.

 

The majority of working people in the UK have been continually devastated by the rampant Neo-liberal economics (encouraged by the EU) that since the late 1980s has allowed the rich elite to profit handsomely at the direct expense of them... yet when they went too far and crashed the markets through irresponsible and doubly rampant lending, the public purse had to foot the bill. Essentially socialism for the rich guaranteed and paid-for by the working classes, and yesterday they decided they'd 'had enough'. Ignored by politicians and condemned as racist or xenophobic by the metropolitan intelligentsia of London and elsewhere you just simply can't ignore 17 million people or label them as such.

 

This is a failure for David Cameron, a failure for the remain campaign - hell bent on negative campaigning and threats without listening to genuine concerns, and a failure for the Labour party - who despite campaigning quite clearly for remain - saw a majority of their core support vote against them.

 

This is a sad day, but we need to accept the result - take stock and then demand a general election in 6-9 months so that we can kick out the Conservatives who will now work in the interest of the rich elite to destroy all that those who voted out want to protect, such as public services and workers rights.

If the new PM is planning an election within the next nine months or so, he or she will avoid doing anything too controversial in that time. They will claim to be concentrating on the EU negotiations. That will make it even more likely that the Tories win an increased majority in that election. Then they will unleash the extreme right-wing policies they somehow forgot to tell us about at the election.

Genuinely heartbroken :( It really disgusts me how ignorant some people are and the fact even Farage admitted one of the key arguments presented in the leave campaign was a load of bullshit says it all tbh. Normally I can't stand people who go 'I told you so' but I proudly will when our country goes to the shitter, as is already happening. One of the main reasons I voted no in the independence referendum back in 2014 was I thought I was a part of a tolerant, forward thinking union. Now I'm seriously considering a yes vote.

 

To sum it up, f***. :(

Shocking result, and even though I voted for remain I can't say I'm that surprised sadly.

 

The majority of working people in the UK have been continually devastated by the rampant Neo-liberal economics (encouraged by the EU) that since the late 1980s has allowed the rich elite to profit handsomely at the direct expense of them... yet when they went too far and crashed the markets through irresponsible and doubly rampant lending, the public purse had to foot the bill. Essentially socialism for the rich guaranteed and paid-for by the working classes, and yesterday they decided they'd 'had enough'. Ignored by politicians and condemned as racist or xenophobic by the metropolitan intelligentsia of London and elsewhere you just simply can't ignore 17 million people or label them as such.

 

This is a failure for David Cameron, a failure for the remain campaign - hell bent on negative campaigning and threats without listening to genuine concerns, and a failure for the Labour party - who despite campaigning quite clearly for remain - saw a majority of their core support vote against them.

 

This is a sad day, but we need to accept the result - take stock and then demand a general election in 6-9 months so that we can kick out the Conservatives who will now work in the interest of the rich elite to destroy all that those who voted out want to protect, such as public services and workers rights.

Thats a very charitable political view of the working classes. The main problem, though, and god knows ive tried to talk sensibly to working class leavevoters - they happen to be my friends and relations thanks - is that they genuinely dont care about the consequences and genuinely DO shall we say dislike immigrants from the eastern EU. Not as individuals, but as a mass lump. To not see that basic main fact behind the result is being too selective. The campign was ALL about immigrants. Every other argument trotted out was to try and disguise that as much as possible.

Thats a very charitable political view of the working classes. The main problem, though, and god knows ive tried to talk sensibly to working class leavevoters - they happen to be my friends and relations thanks - is that they genuinely dont care about the consequences and genuinely DO shall we say dislike immigrants from the eastern EU. Not as individuals, but as a mass lump. To not see that basic main fact behind the result is being too selective. The campign was ALL about immigrants. Every other argument trotted out was to try and disguise that as much as possible.

 

True, but immigration has become a scapegoat for the real underlying problem. If immigration was better managed, we provided investment into these areas - not just in money but in working towards a more cohesive and inclusive society - then that easy scapegoat would no longer exist - the finger would then be pointed towards the real problem. Those who shamelessly evade tax, use their immense greed to lobby those in power to make the rules work for them and against everyone else, ruthlessly take from the productive poor. As Jo Cox said we have more in common than that which divides us (99% versus the 1%).